Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)

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MLS is growing and I believe in about 10 years we will see a very strong league. Sometimes I go watch Philadelphia Union and I really like to see the support they receive.

Yep, in 10 years or so it will be up to roughly League of Ireland standard and they will be able to rival the likes of the mighty Sligo Rovers ;).

Ronaldo not been as bad as everyone in this thread is saying at all. I'd guess we would recuperate a large percentage of the amount paid for him in shirt/merchandise sales. He's obviously one of the most lucrative signings in world football, combine that with United fans' love of him, and the clubs worldwide support and it's definite that we'd make a world record amount of money back from signing him. You could charge £60 for tickets to his unveiling and still probably sell out OT for God sake! :lol:.

All this aside though, hoping it does happen. Not often you see characters like him in football and he is one of the best in the world. Would be silly not to take him home.
 
As much as I'd love Ronaldo back here surely he'd rather have a chance of winning the Champions League one last time and lets be honest he's a much better chance of winning it with PSG than us unless with the addition of him we strengthen a lot (Again) during the summer.
PSG constantly choke in Europe but every year it's 'this year it's different, they have so much quality'....only to fail again
 
PSG constantly choke in Europe but every year it's 'this year it's different, they have so much quality'....only to fail again
They went out twice to Barça, once to Chelsea, in quarter finals over the last three years. Twice on away goals.

Not saying they'll win it, but their push in the Champions League is still quite young (they were bankrolled just a few years ago) and it will take some time for them to make it. But they're definitely not looking ridiculous in Europe (unlike City for example), and if they get a bit of luck with the draw, they've got a very good team to have a good run. Especially as the league is usually wrapped up for them pretty easily.
 
How is dropping to a lower level to continue playing football undignified?

Did you watch the video ? He said he wanted to end his career with dignity, therefore not in one of the aforementioned leagues.
 
Did you watch the video ? He said he wanted to end his career with dignity, therefore not in one of the aforementioned leagues.
I didn't. I'm asking how it's undignified to go finish your career in the MLS.

People still clinging to the idea that footballers don't play for the money. Some players actually help raise the level of the game at these lower leagues, but yeah.
And again, nothing undignified about raising the profile of a new league, having a new experience playing/living in New York/LA and earning some good money too. But I respect Ronaldo's stance too. He wants to be a "big" player till the end. Good for him.
 
I didn't. I'm asking how it's undignified to go finish your career in the MLS.


And again, nothing undignified about raising the profile of a new league, having a new experience playing/living in New York/LA and earning some good money too. But I respect Ronaldo's stance too. He wants to be a "big" player till the end. Good for him.

Well quite obviously because its considered a retirement league. He wants to finish his career by going out strong in a top league then transition into his various brand/products he's developed. He's already worth over $300m and doesn't need the salary since he makes a boat load off his brands and endorsements and will continue to do so, similar to Jordan.
 
Well quite obviously because its considered a retirement league. He wants to finish his career by going out strong in a top league then transition into his various brand/products he's developed. He's already worth over $300m and doesn't need the salary since he makes a boat load off his brands and endorsements and will continue to do so, similar to Jordan.
I'm fine with his reasons. He wants to be a big player till he plays. His wish.

I'm wondering why you would find someone like Beckham playing in America "undignified". That still isn't obvious nor properly explained. Is finishing at Madrid and "developing your underwear/socks brand" more dignified than playing football in the MLS?
 
I'm fine with his reasons. He wants to be a big player till he plays. His wish.

I'm wondering why you would find someone like Beckham playing in America "undignified". That still isn't obvious nor properly explained. Is finishing at Madrid and "developing your underwear/socks brand" more dignified than playing football in the MLS?

Because its a shit league for Americans, near retirees, and players who lack other options.
 
Yep, in 10 years or so it will be up to roughly League of Ireland standard and they will be able to rival the likes of the mighty Sligo Rovers ;).

Ronaldo not been as bad as everyone in this thread is saying at all. I'd guess we would recuperate a large percentage of the amount paid for him in shirt/merchandise sales. He's obviously one of the most lucrative signings in world football, combine that with United fans' love of him, and the clubs worldwide support and it's definite that we'd make a world record amount of money back from signing him. You could charge £60 for tickets to his unveiling and still probably sell out OT for God sake! :lol:.

All this aside though, hoping it does happen. Not often you see characters like him in football and he is one of the best in the world. Would be silly not to take him home.
Thats not really how finance works , and a lot of people seem to have been duped by Florentino Perez into believing that shirt sales cover such an enormous outlay, and it is simply isnt true at all. Not even close.

For a shirt to get to a point of sale, the following costs among others have to be incurred:
- Manufacturing( Including labour and material)
- Customs
- Delivery costs, storage costs, and other related costs
- Probably licensing costs involved too
- Many different taxes from the multiple jurisdictions that those sales will occur in.
- Royalties for Ronaldo's image rights( He has sold them recently to Peter Lim, he'll want a cut too)

Thats just the tip of the iceberg. Consider that for most clubs, that the shirt manufacturer also gets a cut, and the pie becomes even smaller.

Also considering that the Manchester United is already a big brand on itself, with Ed Woodward having said that Memphis sold the 3rd highest number of shirts after Messi and Ronaldo, the INCREMENTAL effect financially of such a purchase is way overstated. Which means that the actual overall INCREASE in shirt sales from what our highest shirt seller wouldn't really be that much of a significant increase at all. Considering the fact too that unlike the deal with Rooney, we will not be able to get a cut of a percentage of his image rights, as Ronaldo has recently sold them, then this muddies the waters even more.

The numbers simply do not add up and this claim that we will simply make everything in shirt sales and merchandise is one of the biggest lies sold to fans, and you have to admire Florentino for pulling it off.
 
Sometimes even I don't know.

Anyhoo, back to this thread.

Do you not see the logic of a great player wanting to go out on top in a top league like Spain or England, perhaps winning a CL or treble. As opposed to evaporating into the sunset in a league where the sport is not even in the top 5 or even worse in a league funded by petro-dollars at the behest of some rich Sheikh who wants to impress his mates at which European footballer he can lure in with a massive salary. There really is no difference between the two options and he's quite right in choosing the first.
 
Do you not see the logic of a great player wanting to go out on top in a top league like Spain or England, perhaps winning a CL or treble. As opposed to evaporating into the sunset in a league where the sport is not even in the top 5 or even worse in a league funded by petro-dollars at the behest of some rich Sheikh who wants to impress his mates at which European footballer he can lure in with a massive salary. There really is no difference between the two options and he's quite right in choosing the first.
There's no "right" or "wrong" about it. If he wants to wrap his career up after Madrid's 11th CL title and work on his clothing brands, good for him. If he wants to do the same, but instead of the clothing brand, play football and live in a different country, then good for him too. Considering playing in a new and less prominent league as "evaporating" is a strange way to look at things. Can't see how clothing brands as the next step is the super dignified thing in comparison. Not that I see any of them as undignified.
 
There's no "right" or "wrong" about it. If he wants to wrap his career up after Madrid's 11th CL title and work on his clothing brands, good for him. If he wants to do the same, but instead of the clothing brand, play football and live in a different country, then good for him too. Considering playing in a new and less prominent league as "evaporating" is a strange way to look at things. Can't see how clothing brands as the next step is the super dignified thing in comparison. Not that I see any of them as undignified.

The dignity part has nothing to do with his non-football interests, its about finishing his career at the top and not in some rubbish league that no one respects. He obviously has more than enough money and doesn't need the hassle of attempting to prove himself elsewhere.
 
The dignity part has nothing to do with his non-football interests, its about finishing his career at the top and not in some rubbish league that no one respects. He obviously has more than enough money and doesn't need the hassle of attempting to prove himself elsewhere.
And kudos to him. But there's nothing wrong with doing what you enjoy doing even if it's at a lower level.
 
To be frank, if how he retires is so much important to him, there's no better place than United. He could retire at Madrid as their leading goal scorer, win another champions league and be forgotten before long. If he comes back to United, wins the league and gives a couple more good seasons, he can retire a legend. I mean hardly a game goes by without the fans singing his name already.
 
To be frank, if how he retires is so much important to him, there's no better place than United. He could retire at Madrid as their leading goal scorer, win another champions league and be forgotten before long. If he comes back to United, wins the league and gives a couple more good seasons, he can retire a legend. I mean hardly a game goes by without the fans singing his name already.

Or he could come back to United and we don't win anything and he plays like shite because he's on the decline and then he's tarnished his reputation...
 
Or he could come back to United and we don't win anything and he plays like shite because he's on the decline and then he's tarnished his reputation...

Unless he suffers an untimely injury, there's a good chance he still has 2-3 very good seasons in him but then again, that's a risk you always take when you buy a player on the wrong side of 30. More than anything else if you buy one superstar, you attract more because great players like to play with other great players.
 
Came across very well in that interview. Seems to constantly joke about the idea that he loves himself. Also its nice to actually have someone who is clearly soo family orientated no controversy just a big focus on improving his family. Didn't find it particularly boring and is a much more interesting interview than if it was joey barton or some "extroverted" footballer.

i must have missed that. I saw it more happily accepts he is in love with himself
 
AS.com says he's told Perez they won't win anything with Benitez.

Surely his time at Madrid is almost up?
 
i must have missed that. I saw it more happily accepts he is in love with himself

He was referring to it constantly clearly in a joking way. He may be vein but was obviously playing up to it for the jokes of the crowd. He's a guy that pretty much has it all but is clearly smart enough to not take himself too seriously. In fact rio always talks about Ronaldo taking the mickey out of himself.
 
PSG constantly choke in Europe but every year it's 'this year it's different, they have so much quality'....only to fail again
Except barring exceptions that's pretty much exactly how success tends to work. It rarely comes together immediately.
 
Can't see him going anywhere except PSG. They're perfect for him - he'll be indulged, be the main man, get paid lots etc etc.
Could only see him back here if SAF was still in charge - he's the only person who could 'control' him I think. Without that, we won't be seeing him back here.
 
Bad idea imo. We would be signing half the player we sold to Madrid.
 
Bad idea imo. We would be signing half the player we sold to Madrid.


If its possible to buy Ronaldo then Man Utd should take the option.

Ronaldo was not very good against Barcelona, he should have scored when one on one with Bravo, but Ronaldo remains Ronaldo.

Ronaldo is clearly eyeing the exit at Madrid, all these stories would not be coming out if not for that, and he has the look of a player who's had it there. The little slap in the face from Florentino didn't go down well, and its widely reported that he does not rate Rafa.

Put Ronaldo in a team he actually wants to play for and the difference would be clear. Trust me.
 
I just want to see him play for us again. Not sure it makes loads of sense, though I think he would make a lot of the money back himself.
 
I think his motivation (lack of) is a bigger factor right now than an actual physical decline. He's clearly not trying his best, and there have been a lot of rumors about him leaving. He has broken the record that cements his legacy at Real, and there is not much else he can do there now (with Barca being so strong). I would gladly take him back for a reasonable fee. 60 million pounds sounds fair.
 
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