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My own take was - Brando is accepting his death and Sheen has accepted his own madness / depravity, and that there is no difference (at this point) between Brando and Sheen. When Sheen drops the weapon at the end to the tribe, he accepts his new role as their god.

Brando, in a sense, has led Sheen to accepting this role and 'lives on' (thereby closer to reaching godhood, sorta).

I know the above might sound a bit fluffy, but this is what I thought.

It sounds about right to me. My take on why the tribe didn't kill Sheen was because he kind of dethroned Brando, like you say.

It was a good ending for a different film. To me it just didn't look like it belonged at the end of the first three quarters. Oh well, I'm watching Prisoners now - I hear it also has an interesting ending, we shall see
 
It might be a reference to age-old pagan rituals and traditions: the idea that a waning (ageing or impaired in some manner) king allows himself to be killed by his successor, lest the land and people suffer because of the king's weakening powers. Kurtz's chamber is essentially the 'sacred grove' of myth.
 
It's hard to choose, there are so many. Obviously most people point to the classic "running in a straight line" scene, and I can't deny it's an iconic moment, but being a bit of a hipster, I prefer the subtler, less blockbusting moments of stupidity. The ones that reward repeat viewings, reassuring the viewer again and again that "yes, it really was that stupid."

Things like the casual dismissal of evolution for humans but not animals even though we share DNA, because a scientist "chooses" not to believe it. Or the idea that we share 100% of our DNA with our creators, when that would just make them human and there'd be no need for some elaborate creation ceremony. Or that time a biologist runs away from the first discovery of a dead alien body, but then tries to cuddle a live evil slimey vagina snake. Or the bit where the geologist with the automated mapping devices whose still in constant contact with the ship, manages to get lost. Or the bit where they all take their helmets off. And then the bits where they all continue to do so on every mission, even after one of them gets severely sick and has to be unnecessarily burned alive in front of his lover after showing symptoms for all of 5 minutes, when as far as anyone knows he got sick from taking his helmet off. Or that bit where Idris Elba goes and has sex while members of his crew are still missing. Or that bit where he decides to scan the atmosphere as they're descending onto the planet (good thing it wasn't a gas planet, ey Cpt. Dickhead?) Or that bit where he turns up in a wetsuit to explain the plot because the writers suddenly realised no one has any clue whats going on yet. Or that bit where he commits suicide just 'cos Shaw tells him to. Or that bit where they all let Shaw come on the final expedition with them immediately after giving birth to an Alien, even though they've just burned a guy for looking a bit peaky and two of the very people on that jaunt had literally just quarantined her. Or that bit where Guy Pierce turns up in Doctor Who make up and no-one cares. Or that bit where David is learning all those languages manually like a human when he could surely just be programmed? Or that bit where he activates the alien ship by pushing some soft boiled eggs and blowing into a recorder even though he has no breath. Or that bit where the head from Art Attack has an orgasm and then explodes. Or how almost all the cast are speaking in accents even though there's no need for it, and Noomi Repace really, really can't do it. Or how Charlize Theron is implied to be a villainous character entirely by dressing her in an evil computer game bodysuit, even though she's probably the most sensible person on the entire ship and does virtually nothing of either harm or use the entire time. Or that bit where the Undercover Boss turns out to be her father and it makes no difference to anything or anyone. Or that bit where a zombie shows up for absolutely no reason and attacks and kills a bunch of crew members we've never seen before. Or how he's folded up like an Scorpian when he does so because...something? Or how Holloway is such a massive sulky cock biscuit he gets drunk at the disappointment of only discovering the first example of alien life, after a mere 6 hours of exploring one tiny part of a huge planet. Or that bit where the Engineer decides to come back and fight a small, injured woman rather than just getting into another ship. Or how the legend of Prometheus doesn't actually relate to the plot of the film in anyway whatsoever.

All of that is good, admittedly. But when I really think about it, I'd probably have to go with the bit where the hologram of the supposedly long dead Guy Pierce looks at the real life human actors he's not supposed to be interacting with.

:lol: I love that Movie. Not sure why after reading your review, but I still love it. W/e :lol::lol::lol: Great review.
 
LEGEND (2015) - Tom Hardy

Not a bad Ganster Flick, Tom Hardy playing the Kray twins as a London Mafia.

2.5 hours and they still can't decide if they want to make a crime drama filled with love interest or a love interest filled with crime drama, the balance between Reg and Ronald just isn't there. It seems like we're seeing everything through Reg's perspective or Frances'.

The ending is sooo bland and rushed up it, the last third of the movie still feels so slow, and they nick the Casino Joe Pesci style with Frances' there at the end.

A bit boring to be honest, but emily browning is very loveable

6/10
 
Apocalypse Now

God dammit this annoyed me. I'd never seen it before and it sounded fantastic, so last night I put the 3 hour redux version on.

The first two and a half hours were absolute perfection and it was looking like an easy 10/10 for me. Honestly, I was in awe of how bloody good this film was.

The final act however ruined it for me. From the moment they arrived at the Cambodian tribe I started to dislike it, I know it's probably meant to be all poetic and have some deep message but I was just bored, underwhelmed and disappointed that what was looking like becoming potentially my favourite movie of all time petered out.

Brando's character confused me. He was supposed to be a badass colonel accepted as some kind of God but he just seems to accept his death. I never understood his intentions towards the end.

I just feel like I've completely missed the point of the final quarter of the film. Maybe someone cleverer than me can explain it.

It's an 8/10, purely because as I said the first three quarters blew me away.

I need to rewatch it again, but it really is a surreal feast. Everything before he met Brando seems like a different movie, hard to describe but it's as if he's a ghost passing through the hillybillies of war and everything just stand still and feels very disconnected to him.

Might need to give this one a rewatch
 
It might be a reference to age-old pagan rituals and traditions: the idea that a waning (ageing or impaired in some manner) king allows himself to be killed by his successor, lest the land and people suffer because of the king's weakening powers. Kurtz's chamber is essentially the 'sacred grove' of myth.
Yep I think this is a good explanation.
 
I need to rewatch it again, but it really is a surreal feast. Everything before he met Brando seems like a different movie, hard to describe but it's as if he's a ghost passing through the hillybillies of war and everything just stand still and feels very disconnected to him.

Might need to give this one a rewatch

I'm almost certainly reading far too much into this, but...Kurtz (the poet Virgil in Dante's The Divine Comedy) is effectively Willard's (i.e. Dante's) guide through Hell and Purgatory, whose trials and horrors Dante does not suffer but only witnesses. (NB: In real life, Virgil died onboard a ship, as Kurtz does in Heart of Darkness.)
 
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It might be a reference to age-old pagan rituals and traditions: the idea that a waning (ageing or impaired in some manner) king allows himself to be killed by his successor, lest the land and people suffer because of the king's weakening powers. Kurtz's chamber is essentially the 'sacred grove' of myth.
I dunno - Kurtz's introduction shows us he really isn't on the wane. He's still this big powerful figure. We never get to see his full size on screen (adding to his aura). And the fact that he's actually allowed Sheen to kill him shows he really is powerful. He could have stopped it at any point, killed Sheen himself etc. But he hadn't.
 
I dunno - Kurtz's introduction shows us he really isn't on the wane. He's still this big powerful figure. We never get to see his full size on screen (adding to his aura). And the fact that he's actually allowed Sheen to kill him shows he really is powerful. He could have stopped it at any point, killed Sheen himself etc. But he hadn't.

True, but that only plays into the scenario of the 'dying-and-rising god'; both that myth, and Kurtz's untamed ego, suggests that he feels he's immortal (in whatever guise he assumes after death - even as Willard). Kurtz is a Titan, overthrown by an Olympian.
 
I dunno - Kurtz's introduction shows us he really isn't on the wane. He's still this big powerful figure. We never get to see his full size on screen (adding to his aura). And the fact that he's actually allowed Sheen to kill him shows he really is powerful. He could have stopped it at any point, killed Sheen himself etc. But he hadn't.
Because Brando was too fecking fat! :lol:
 
True, but that only plays into the scenario of the 'dying-and-rising god'; both that myth, and Kurtz's untamed ego, suggests that he feels he's immortal (in whatever guise he assumes after death - even as Willard). Kurtz is a Titan, overthrown by an Olympian.
To me Willard is a pawn in Kurtz's game.

On a side - it really is a great movie, especially when you take into account the archetype of Kilgore's character, and the wider topic of American in Vietnam.
Because Brando was too fecking fat! :lol:
Haha - he looks so bloated. It's funny because Kurtz's depiction in the book (I haven't read the book, btw), is a really frail emaciated character.
 
To me Willard is a pawn in Kurtz's game.

On a side - it really is a great movie, especially when you take into account the archetype of Kilgore's character, and the wider topic of American in Vietnam.

Haha - he looks so bloated. It's funny because Kurtz's depiction in the book (I haven't read the book, btw), is a really frail emaciated character.
I'm actually serious, iirc correctly, he arrived on set practically obese, which no one expected. When his face is filmed, you never see his full frame and when you see his full body, it's actually a 'stunt double'. He was a total mess on set apparently.
 
I'm actually serious, iirc correctly, he arrived on set practically obese, which no one expected. When his face is filmed, you never see his full frame and when you see his full body, it's actually a 'stunt double'. He was a total mess on set apparently.
Yea, I heard the same. There's a documentary about the making of the movie that goes into more detail. But I'm sure F F-Coppola wanted him to be larger than life as well. Or maybe he turned up as a fatty and F F-Coppola used it to his advantage.
 
I bet none of my crappy theories ever even occurred to the creators of AN and HoD. None. :D It'd be like the makers of The Shining, laughing at the theories presented in Room 237. :D
 
Nice AN discussion.

Also, Willard presumably takes that kill-or-be-killed "binary" violence 'back into civilization' at the end, like all Vietnam - or any war's - veterans. No one 'back home' will understand the complexities. None of the understanding of the "in between". If you want to get really dark, once he 'replaces' Kurtz, he should kill himself, but because he wants to live, he takes this virus (blood/murder) back to civilization.

Remember, when he goes up the river, it's with some buddies. When he heads back, it's with one guy ('his own soul') that he's hoping he'll be able to 'rescue' from the HOD. All of the above is by design, and it's one of the more 'cliche' aspects of the story. Stuff we all get.

As for the climax/ending, it's mainly a triple ending, with varying interpretations branching off from or combining any of the three. Kurtz saying do your 'duty' and kill me = take away my pain/become this aspect of God/as long as you're mortal, you can change nothing (the 'savages' reveling in the blood sacrifice as Willard kills Kurtz/himself).

Stemming from this, I think one of the more interesting interpretations is that Willard is trying to 'kill' the 'bad' parts of himself by performing a merciful act and thus return 'pure' or at least neutral. Hell, there's even the Moses coming down the mountain with 'the laws' (futility of civilization) shot.

Anyways, both the 'replace a waning God/king' and the 'I dunno, he's not really waning, is he?' opinions are correct at the same time, since the third commentary is pointing out mortality's effect.

Recently saw Song of the Sea (2014). If anyone reviewed it here and gave it a good score, I agree.
 
Crimson Peak.

In the aftermath of a family tragedy, an aspiring author is torn between love for her childhood friend and the temptation of a mysterious outsider. Trying to escape the ghosts of her past, she is swept away to a house that breathes, bleeds - and remembers.
To be honest I was hugely disappointed with this del Toro effort, the acting was decent enough, but I thought the story was lacking, it was just slow and the twist you saw miles before it showed in the film.
My problem was I did not think it was a horror film, it was more of a Gothic love story with a twist with a horror element, which looked like it was added to sell it has a horror.
If offers nothing you have not seen before, I only really watched all of it to see if it got any better.
Maybe I was expecting to much and I am being overly critical.


3/10
 
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My problem was I did not think it was a horror film, it was more of a Gothic love story

That's actually exactly how Del Toro described it. I can see why people expected otherwise though as it's a hard film to market. I actually didn't think it worked as a love story either.
 
Crimson Peak.

In the aftermath of a family tragedy, an aspiring author is torn between love for her childhood friend and the temptation of a mysterious outsider. Trying to escape the ghosts of her past, she is swept away to a house that breathes, bleeds - and remembers.
To be honest I was hugely disappointed with this del Toro effort, the acting was decent enough, but I thought the story was lacking, it was just slow and the twist you saw miles before it showed in the film.
My problem was I did not think it was a horror film, it was more of a Gothic love story with a twist with a horror element, which looked like it was added to sell it has a horror.
If offers nothing you have not seen before, I only really watched all of it to see if it got any better.
Maybe I was expecting to much and I am being overly critical.


3/10

I put this on the other night and didn't bother finishing it (as I did with Jurassic World at the weekend). My attention span and tolerance for rubbish has decreased dramatically in recent years.
 
Crimson Peak.

In the aftermath of a family tragedy, an aspiring author is torn between love for her childhood friend and the temptation of a mysterious outsider. Trying to escape the ghosts of her past, she is swept away to a house that breathes, bleeds - and remembers.
To be honest I was hugely disappointed with this del Toro effort, the acting was decent enough, but I thought the story was lacking, it was just slow and the twist you saw miles before it showed in the film.
My problem was I did not think it was a horror film, it was more of a Gothic love story with a twist with a horror element, which looked like it was added to sell it has a horror.
If offers nothing you have not seen before, I only really watched all of it to see if it got any better.
Maybe I was expecting to much and I am being overly critical.


3/10
I saw this and thought it was ok. I think it's definitely not a horror but a romance set in horror/gothic background. I think they even mention this in the film. Having said that, the acting was quite good and the set design was amazing. It's visually really good but lacks some substance. What was the twist? I don't remember there being one...?
 
I saw this and thought it was ok. I think it's definitely not a horror but a romance set in horror/gothic background. I think they even mention this in the film. Having said that, the acting was quite good and the set design was amazing. It's visually really good but lacks some substance. What was the twist? I don't remember there being one...?
Maybe he means the fact that the brother and sister are incestuous and that they've killed many women before? Wasn't really a twist though.
 
Maybe he means the fact that the brother and sister are incestuous and that they've killed many women before? Wasn't really a twist though.
Yeah possibly. I didn't feel it was a twist as it was so obvious I guess and I think they even showed it in the trailer or something...
 
Re-watched Star Wars episode III and I have to say it's actually quite underrated. The 3rd prequel movie still contains some silly dialogue and Hayden's acting is poor but overall a very entertaining and visually stunning Sci-Fi movie. Might get shot for this but I would give it a 8/10 :nervous:
 
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Re-watched Star Wars episode VII and I have to say it's actually quite underrated. The 3rd prequel movie still contains some silly dialogue and Hayden's acting is poor but overall a very entertaining and visually stunning Sci-Fi movie. Might get shot for this but I would give it a 8/10 :nervous:
You must have been the only person to see episode VII :lol:
 
Great movie, surprised it hasn't got that cult following I thought it'd have.

Pretty sure it does. I certainly know very few people who don't love it. I even saw it referenced heavily in an episode of Psych the other day.
 
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Goodnight Mommy
Austrian horror film about twins who become disconnected to their mother after she has facial cosmetic surgery. Beautifully shot, every frame felt like a photograph. The film was very eerie and expertly done slow burn type of movie. The acting was excellent and I was really really enjoying it. The movie felt fresh, original and was a genre film where the directors clearly knew exactly what they were doing. There was a negative but I don't want to spoil the film:

switching from eerie psychological horror to body horror was a good move to make most of the genre limitations however the twist ending was a let down a little bit. I was so engrossed that I didn't see it coming but I know many people will see it coming and that can ruin the film (e.g. the case with my wife). Also, this type of twist is very common (Tale Of Two Sisters, The Other, Sixth Sense) and I would have liked something more original.

I still enjoyed this and is a horror stand out in a year where there were only a handful of good horror films. Very artistic, original and a pleasure to watch 8.5/10

Thought it was great, until it wasn't. Hoped it wouldn't do what it did then it did.

Such a hackneyed reveal. "The only idea more overused than serial killers is multiple personalities"-Charlie Kaufman

Just black screen the film when the red cross leave the house and I would have been very satisfied. Lucy Clifford had the bollocks to follow through with idea over a hundred years ago.
It doesn't spoil the good stuff in the film, but it kind of does.
 
Thought it was great, until it wasn't. Hoped it wouldn't do what it did then it did.

Such a hackneyed reveal. "The only idea more overused than serial killers is multiple personalities"-Charlie Kaufman

Just black screen the film when the red cross leave the house and I would have been very satisfied. Lucy Clifford had the bollocks to follow through with idea over a hundred years ago.
It doesn't spoil the good stuff in the film, but it kind of does.
I get your point and it did bug me but thinking about it now I don't actually mind too much as everything in this film seemed very deliberate and think the journey was worth it even if the destination wasn't exactly what I wanted if you know what I mean?
 
I get your point and it did bug me but thinking about it now I don't actually mind too much as everything in this film seemed very deliberate and think the journey was worth it even if the destination wasn't exactly what I wanted if you know what I mean?

It deserves to be seen for sure, and high praise for a lot of what it does, it really got under my skin. It's another exceptionally good conceptual horror - as opposed to jump scare shocker. Unfriended and It Follows would complete my top 3 horror films that I saw this year.
 
It deserves to be seen for sure, and high praise for a lot of what it does, it really got under my skin. It's another exceptionally good conceptual horror - as opposed to jump scare shocker. Unfriended and It Follows would complete my top 3 horror films that I saw this year.
The same three films make my top 3 horrors this year also! You sir have good taste!
 
Bridge of Spies Visually superb and consumate Cold War era storytelling from Spielburg back to his very best form. 9/10