But Juve could never offer him what we will, no bumper deal will be bumper enough to please the player and the agent.
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But Juve could never offer him what we will, no bumper deal will be bumper enough to please the player and the agent.
"Raiola said Pogba is not desperate to move and he knows where the midfielder would like to spend next season, but added: "We didn't talk about transfers during the Euros."
By all accounts that is probably Madrid. As all the major reports have said we / Jose will need to convince him or move on.
By all accounts that is probably Madrid. As all the major reports have said we / Jose will need to convince him or move on.
I suppose he could then move to Madrid in a couple of seasons time once their transfer ban is over.
Probably because anything can happen over the next 12 months Pogba could break his leg, United will probably buy someone else for his position or be looking to replace Zlatan for big money if it didn't workout allsorts could put a spanner in the works you have to strike while the iron is hot and that applies to the clubs and players alike this opportunity may not come again
I think we have always regarded this as a long shot and have been looking at alternatives for some time.
Not completely correct, the club takes all profits made from club stores.
But that's a minor point. Signing big stars results in easier marketability of the club to new sponsors. That's why Woody is eager to land big stars. Our next sponsors would rather have Pogba and Neymar on their adverts than Fellaini and Young.
Though for a much lower fee than what United appear to be offering. So it's partly in Juve's court what happens next. Keep him for a couple of seasons but sell him for 30-40m less.
I am just saying that people need to look at what Railoa has supposedly said in the past and the exact opposite has happened, before getting their nickers in a twist. Now here are the possible scenarios:
1)He is the most incompetent agent on the planet
2) He is being coy and creating a smoke screen
3) He never said the alleged "quotes"
I will let you decide. It's funny that you are acting emotional and erratic right now. Just saying... before I "jog on"
I remember 12 hours before Zlatan signed Raiola talked about his next club and that it might not be United. Dont listen to the guy he's usually a massive wum, that's why Fergie hated him.
How is by all accounts? When there are many many "accounts" of him wanting to come back to Manchester?
Why do people find it so much easier to be negative nancy's?
Sorry but Juve offering him a new deal should have been pretty obvious.
Naturally if another club comes in offering your player more than double what you're paying him, if you don't want to sell him you're still obligated to offer him an improved deal.
Also it's totally obvious why Raiola would mention that, same as why he was pointing out all the offers that Ibrah had. It makes him look good.
I think the chances are the same as they were before, 60/40 he stays at Juve.
Naturally if another club comes in offering your player more than double what you're paying him, if you don't want to sell him you're still obligated to offer him an improved deal.
Also it's totally obvious why Raiola would mention that, same as why he was pointing out all the offers that Ibrah had. It makes him look good.
I think the chances are the same as they were before, 60/40 he stays at Juve.
We get a cut of the shirt sales. This deal isn't like the Nike deal.
No, I'm not judging him based on the Euro although a lot can be said about his individual performance in it too. The times I saw him play against stronger opponents for Juve he never lacked confidence but also nothing too special to be called world class?
I think he is, and Bale has 3 yrs on him, but they are both WC. They both have pace and power, a strong mentality, amazing technique and doesn't easily get injured. Both built for PL football. I think he's worth it because midfielders with those attributes are much harder to find than attackers.
Juve are not going to turn down a bid of over 100 million 
The whole club can be bought for 250. Deals like this don't happen quick. People need to chill out. Two more weeks i'd say.
The whole club can be bought for 250. Deals like this don't happen quick. People need to chill out. Two more weeks i'd say.With talk of a new Juve contract and other clubs being interested (as you'd expect) my confidence levels have taken a hit today. I'm not convinced that Pogba wants the move to us as much as his Agent does
Let's do that then.Juve are not going to turn down a bid of over 100 million
Ironic really. He should be the best source but you can't really go by what he says.
Will this be how it ends. They make an agreement for next season with Madrid. Not even Jose and all the money in the world convinces him to return.
So be it. Let's at least get Kante then and someone who can control a ball under pressure.
So be it. Let's at least get Kante then and someone who can control a ball under pressure.
It's not just that.
People underestimate the appeal of prestige and legacy. Not that it matters more than money or trophies, but it is a factor. People want to play for Barca and Madrid because of the prestige that comes with playing for them. They want to play on the same team their idols Zidane, Ronaldinho, etc.. played for. Flashy names continue to be a selling point for those clubs. It feeds their ego.
It is why Zidane was such a smart move. Players want to emulate him to this day.
Buy them, transfer Chieleni and Bonnucci, along with Pogba
Why would Juve agree to sell him next year to Real for less money? It's not logical.
Returning to Manchester isn't the hell on earth for Pogba that people are painting it as.
Returning to Manchester isn't the hell on earth for Pogba that people are painting it as.
Sorry Pogba is no way near Bale at the moment. Maybe in the future, but not now. Bale is one of the top 5 players in the world.
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Except United are set to make him the 3rd highest player behind Ronaldo and Messi, Juventus will not do that, nor will they pay Raiola a 20m fee, so not exactly sure getting him less money and forgoing a 20m agent fee is getting the best deal, if we are strictly talking money.
Except United are set to make him the 3rd highest player behind Ronaldo and Messi, Juventus will not do that, nor will they pay Raiola a 20m fee, so not exactly sure getting him less money and forgoing a 20m agent fee is getting the best deal, if we are strictly talking money.
That's not true. Bale is on another level.
Yes there's that, I was just speaking from a commercial point of view
I get the whole marketability angle, but saying we will make 100m back in shirt sales is not accurate.
Not even Neymar's level, strange claim to make.
maybe he will sign a new contract with a reasonable release clause and moves to Madrid within next two seasons.
The only things I have read are that Pogba was 'open' to a United move, though his preference is Madrid.
Yes that's ridiculous bollocks of course
I am just saying that people need to look at what Railoa has supposedly said in the past and the exact opposite has happened, before getting their nickers in a twist. Now here are the possible scenarios:
1)He is the most incompetent agent on the planet
2) He is being coy and creating a smoke screen
3) He never said the alleged "quotes"
I will let you decide. It's funny that you are acting emotional and erratic right now. Just saying... before I "jog on"
Did I not acknowledge that? And you have the cheek to call me erratic?
All I said is that I believe the word's of Pogba's agent is a little bit more of a title headline for player's transfer page on our forum over Di Mazrio's.
Plus, the irony of your last line is hilarious considering you were the erratic one to jump to conclusions that I hadn't considered Raiola's past.
Then you've not been reading enough!
Yea hope we get on with this either way. If he wants to stay at Juve/Juve are not willing to sell we need to move on. These long drawn out transfers help nobody.
He seems to really love playing for Juve and might be happy to stay there unless one of top 3 clubs in Europe may come in for him. He might see Utd as a chapter he wants to move on from no matter how much we offer.
Would absolutely love him here but would settle for Matuidi, Sissoko and Will Hughes if Pogba says no
Would absolutely love him here but would settle for Matuidi, Sissoko and Will Hughes if Pogba says no
Sissoko and Will Hughes? Bloody hell!
If its true that they have rejected a £112mil bid, i'd say move the feck on and go for other targets, even though i want Pogba.
Raiola has spoken very little truth all summer. Firstly yes he's going to talk of clubs. Being an agent, you are not going to say club. It's gives more narratives. He's also saying that he may stay - but we can speculate that's tied into signing an extension. Nothing really has changed but you get the people who are insecure or weren't happy - acting like lemmings. All that money to Juventus - means absolutely nothing if every club you try and buy someone from, is greedy and knows you've money. If we consider P/X - then that also takes a period of time. So we won't hear anything reliable until probably next week. In that time, if the club purchase 1/2 midfielders then we can say it's over.
If Juventus wanted to keep Pogba and were despirate - they would more likely sell that defender City were linked too. He would bring in enough money to actually challenge what United could offer Pogba.
If Juventus wanted to keep Pogba and were despirate - they would more likely sell that defender City were linked too. He would bring in enough money to actually challenge what United could offer Pogba.
United sell between 1.2 -1.5 million shirts per year.
Lets say for this point they sell 1.5 million.
On each shirt sold, each club who have Adidas kits receive 12 euro’s per shirt.
12 x 1.5m = 18m euros per year.
Lets say EVERY SINGLE UNITED SHIRT sold next season has Pogba on the back – it is still impossible for it to pay his transfer fee and unlikely itll cover his wages.
This is why the shirt selling statement is all a nonsense. An image painted by the media that doesn’t reflect the reality.
Also bear in mind this is Euro’s and not pounds.