We know about Madrid but if you believe all you read, Madrid cannot afford him. They are not in the race. So at this stage, he'll either stay or join United should we bid and it be accepted. There is plenty of reasons why he might want to move back to England including Family. So let's be a bit optimistic, especially since Madrid are not in the race.
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We know about Madrid but if you believe all you read, Madrid cannot afford him. They are not in the race. So at this stage, he'll either stay or join United should we bid and it be accepted. There is plenty of reasons why he might want to move back to England including Family. So let's be a bit optimistic, especially since Madrid are not in the race.
Yeah if it doesn't happen I'll be disappointed for a few minutes and then excited about whoever new we're linked with, knowing full well we are willing to splash some serious cash.
I do think it would be idiotic if Juve decided not to take an offer of 100m though.
On the subject of having to wait for Juve to buy a Pogba replacement before they agree to sell him....isn't Pjanic a Pogba replacement already?
i just don't get why everyone is making such a deal about the cost. Yeah it's a big fee but:
a.) Juve don't want to sell.
b.) He's a player with genuine world class potential, who is currently very good.
c.) he's a combination of still being young (23 iirc) and very experienced (Played in 3 title winning teams, a Champions league final and a Euro Final) (yes i know he lost both).
then when you consider some of the recent or past REPORTED transfer fee's bid (bolded because some of these will have been made up):
Pogba's in a different place to all of them in terms of current ability, potential, experience and most importantly existing club/contract.
You want to buy something from someone who doesn't want to sell then the price goes up.
I actually think if we can do this deal we are getting a fair deal. IMO it's very similar to the Ronaldo/Bale deals which at the time was Madrid wanted a player we/tottenham didn't want to let go...we tell them what they have to pay for us to agree...they wanted him so they paid it. [Disclaimer: I am not comparing him to Ronaldo as a player]
a.) Juve don't want to sell.
b.) He's a player with genuine world class potential, who is currently very good.
c.) he's a combination of still being young (23 iirc) and very experienced (Played in 3 title winning teams, a Champions league final and a Euro Final) (yes i know he lost both).
then when you consider some of the recent or past REPORTED transfer fee's bid (bolded because some of these will have been made up):
- £30m Troy Deeney (bid)
- £39m Ighalo (bid)
- £49m Stirling (sale)
- £36m Martial
- I'm sure others can come up with more examples.
Pogba's in a different place to all of them in terms of current ability, potential, experience and most importantly existing club/contract.
You want to buy something from someone who doesn't want to sell then the price goes up.
I actually think if we can do this deal we are getting a fair deal. IMO it's very similar to the Ronaldo/Bale deals which at the time was Madrid wanted a player we/tottenham didn't want to let go...we tell them what they have to pay for us to agree...they wanted him so they paid it. [Disclaimer: I am not comparing him to Ronaldo as a player]
I hate to be the realistic bore around here but no-one knows what is going to happen with this until we actually get some concrete news from either United, Juventus or the player. We can't take Raiola's chit chat as gospel as we all learned from the Mkhtaryan and Ibra transfers. He plays games with all parties to ensure he is financially rewarded in the end game.
Tweets from the odd poor news source here and random ITK there aren't anything to go on. I'd even go as far as saying to ignore anything that comes from Pogba's agent as we know he won't ever give a straight answer - he simply can't risk things at these early stages.
When we all see a yellow ticker scrolling across Sky Sports News screen stating that we've made an official world record bid for the player we'll all know that the wheels are in motion.
Until then, let's keep our penises tucked away.
Tweets from the odd poor news source here and random ITK there aren't anything to go on. I'd even go as far as saying to ignore anything that comes from Pogba's agent as we know he won't ever give a straight answer - he simply can't risk things at these early stages.
When we all see a yellow ticker scrolling across Sky Sports News screen stating that we've made an official world record bid for the player we'll all know that the wheels are in motion.
Until then, let's keep our penises tucked away.
So is this happening or we are just being used again to get a better deal? (Again)
The clues can be found by reading the previous pages of this thread.
You were doing so well until you started talked about Sky Sports. They are useless i'm afraid.
This
And it likely Real will be banned from transfers in 2017 and real being Real the chances are that Zidane won't be there either.
Would love to see Pogba paired with TFM in midfield in the coming years.
Been looking at stats comparing him with comparable players in the other big leagues (although I've probably forgotten someone).
Obviously, the Euros is a crap way to judge any player but there's at least some evidence that the flaws we saw in his game in France were an issue at Juventus last season. Makes a lot less passes than some of his peers (presumably because he's not great at finding space, which was really noticeable at the Euros) and a bit too fond of a Hollywood pass. Ken Early from Second Captains called him the French Steven Gerrard and I can't shake the analogy.
Obviously, bags of talent but not sure he's really all that much better than the best of the rest. Still be an exciting signing, if we get him, but I suspect he will divide opinions on here.
Obviously, the Euros is a crap way to judge any player but there's at least some evidence that the flaws we saw in his game in France were an issue at Juventus last season. Makes a lot less passes than some of his peers (presumably because he's not great at finding space, which was really noticeable at the Euros) and a bit too fond of a Hollywood pass. Ken Early from Second Captains called him the French Steven Gerrard and I can't shake the analogy.
Obviously, bags of talent but not sure he's really all that much better than the best of the rest. Still be an exciting signing, if we get him, but I suspect he will divide opinions on here.
This deal is no less likely today than it was a day ago, or two days ago, and yet you'd think Pogba had released a video of himself kissing the badge on a Juve shirt, and then burning a Utd shirt.
It usually means that the club have briefed someone like Andy Burton when they have the ticker scrolling across the screen. I don't mean their transfer talk rumour sections or anything like that which as you rightly say, are a load of rubbish.
They did the yellow ticker for Aubameyang and City earlier in the window. They're just a waste of time unfortunately.
Problem is..... after reading every statement by any caf member, I get more confused..... more and more confused.
The good part about Vidal thread was that no body was against that transfer
If you're confused, this thread isn't likely to clear anything up. Best to wait until all our transfer business is done.
Good idea
He is against us signing everybody. Im sure he will have something to say even if we sign Messi and Ronaldo.
From your stats it's obvious that he plays further forward - hence his leadership in assists, goals and take-ons. If you pick someone like Isco, you'll see that the statistics allocation is almost similar, but Pogba is slightly better at most (Isco makes more passes, but the difference isn't as big as it is when we compare him to Vidal or Kroos.
But I agree that Gerrard is, sadly, a good analogy so far (although Pogba lacks his engine) - hopefully Pogba will develop into a more intelligent player, with the time being on his side.
I don't think that Pogba alone would be enough to transform our midfield, but if he'll be paired with some genuine playmaker ala Scholes (Verratti is probably the best example but it will be impossible to sign him), and no one would expect for him to control the game, he'll be absolutely devastating.
Well Pogba doesnt slip as often so he has got that over Gerrard.
And his trophy cabinet is already comparableWell Pogba doesnt slip as often so he has got that over Gerrard.
4 league titles. If not for the loss in the CL final I would've called him more successful already (plus he managed to accomplish more at the international level than Gerrard did)So funny how people on here comparing him to Gerrard as a negative - top 5 ever premier league midfielder! If he becomes as good as Gerrard then we'll have an absolute bargain.
Great post, well said
At United in the PL, he could become the no 1 most recognized footballer in the world in the coming years as those two wind down their careers.
Exactly. There is zero evidence he wants to go to Spain whatsoever.
A 23 year old Gerrard would be the dream signing.
If Pogba becomes half the player he was, £100m will look a snip.
Starting to wonder if this is just Raiola agitating interest from us to get an improved contract for pogba. I might be wrong but Raiola was very so-so in his comments about the likelihood of a transfer compared to what we were hearing from him over mkhitaryan.
Great player but not a great central midfielder. Liverpool's best season with Gerrard came when he was played as a forward.
Yeah, we have one every season where we're taken down the garden path.
Yeah, i agree. Try to stay on topic though, theres a banning warning on the thread for if posters lead the discussion off on a tangent.
What about what he said about Zlatan?....
So his agent almost isn't a reliable yardstick. I just can't see us not being interested at this stage. With 3 years left, he would have too have new negotiations anyway. Chelsea made a bid for him last season, if that's true then we have concrete interest from Jose and the fact is Jose's already said Rooney won't play in midfield - if we sell Bastian too for example - we'll be short.Turin is a bit of a dump actually.
Certainly not a tier 1 city like London or Paris.
Real have a transfer ban next season also.
And he has won Serie A a few times in a row. No challenge. Shit league.
What about what he said about Zlatan?....
Exactly.
fair point. He definately didnt go to Milan. : )What about what he said about Zlatan?....
You've made a bit of an error with your username, you missed an 'e'.
Oh 'ell. New member, hadnt noticed. Can you change it?
Mate, long time no see.
You'll have to wait until you can make a thread in the general. That will sort it out.
Back on topic. There is no downside to this transfer. Get it done Woody.