Why would you say Batshuayi lacks brain cells?
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Why would you say Batshuayi lacks brain cells?
This.
It is a shame we haven't seen more of him.. he's a quality talent. He's playing behind one of the world's best strikers who is not getting injured.. so must be very frustrating for him.
Conte has been so impressive this season. If Chelsea go on to win it, it really is a remarkable achievement.. considering what they were going through last year and for him to galvanise the squad like he has straight from the off shows he is a top top manager.
To be honest, yes your squad is probably top 2 on paper in terms of quality, but the mindset he has installed and the ease with which you are going about the campaign is impressive.
The true test will be how you guys fare in europe next year. It is all well and good winning the league, Jose managed that with pretty much the same squad but can Conte.. turn Chelsea into CL challengers once again.
I think we will see a situation where it will be like 06-09.. where english teams had a strong elite and were very competitive in europe. It won't happen right away, but assuming Conte, Pep, Jose and Klopp are there for the next few years.. they will start to break away from the pack.
Arsenal are in a perilous situation.. I think they're in danger of stagnating if they lose Ozil, Sanchez and fail to finish top 4 this year.
We started the season with 9 points from 9, so far from hopeless. Rest of your post is right.
9 out of a possible 27 isn't hopeless for a title contender?
Huh? This season I'm saying. We won our opening 3 matches.
Very stupid moment on my behalf. My apologies.
I thought you meant 9 points out of 9 games
Flabergasted by the comments on Batshuayi (the positive ones), he's an okay striker but really nothing special. He'll spend a couple of seasons benchwarming at Chelsea and will go to a second rate PL club like West Ham or something after that, and have an okay career. Nothing about him is 'top class'.
It's easy for you guys to criticize Batshuayi. The poor guy has barely played for us. How can you just say he is shit or great? Let him play a few games first. Plus, I think he was a panic buy as we did not get Morata. Although, I do not know how can any other striker play in this system and do exactly what Costa does. I would not even take Aguero or Ibra at Chelsea as neither will fit into this Conte system. I fear the day Costa will get injured. There is no one in the world who can do what Costa can do currently.
Don't think any Chelsea fan is hyping up Batshuayi to be the next Deogba or a 25 goals season striker. Heck, most of us thought for sure we'd be playing with 2 strikers up top and he'd be a compliment to Costa.
I'm personally not basing it on his time at Chelsea.
He scored 17 with 6 assists for Marseille last year.
Or to put it another way, there's this from the summer..
Ok he's great.
How do any of them lack brain cells? Moe stereotypes, Lukakus problem is his on and off finishing(while still being a good one), Benteke is purely average and immobile, haven't seen Batshuayi and Origi is no less intelligent than a 21 striker should be, none of them are 'fox in the boxes' but they compensate in other areas, and its pretty hard to be a 6ft plus fox in the box anyways.
I'm not disputing Conte's good work with Chelsea.
I was replying to a point made that new managers need x amount of time,Point being that the foundations were already there.
Chelsea were a mess last year as some of their key players downed tools,didnt want to play for JM and the team suffered results wise.It wasnt that they had a team of poor players.
They actually recovered in the league under Hiddink and lost less games than under Mourinho.
They werent great in the cups although league survival was probably the priority.
Either you are massively over-rating Batshuayi or under-rating Traore.
Shouldnt matter for you though, in your mind Chelsea has already won the league. Your delusions just keep adding up dont they.
Or to put it another way, there's this from the summer..
Never understood this "Top 5 leagues" thing. Given that there is such a massive gulf between the top three leagues and the fourth and also between the fourth (Serie A) and fifth (Ligue 1). You could very well call it top 6 or 7 or 8 for that matter.
Performances against ASSE, Lens, and Nantes count no where close enough to a performance against Westham, Stoke etc. or against Bilbao, Depor and Betis etc in La Liga.
Stats for french league should be compared to Eredivisie and Premiera Liga.
If you succeed in Ligue 1 you're more likely to succeed in any top League. It's one of the toughest Leagues to score or perform in. They consistently produce more top of the line talent than any League that isn't La Liga yet people still group them with Eredivisie & Premiera Liga.
I'd rather buy talent from France than Germany.
I'd rather buy talent from France than Germany.
Ehh, not sure about that. Zlatan made it look effortless. Like he was playing against pub teams every week.
Isn't he doing the same thing in England at an older age though? He's on 11 goals, just 2 behind Costa & has scored 46% of United's goals.
Total nonsense. French league has not produced a top striker in more than 10 years since Benzema.
Batshuayi may well go on to become a top striker but to say he is one right now is ludicrous.
Whether done subconsciously or not, it disturbs me that you've only listed black players. I'm not calling you racist, not even jokingly, but I think it's an unfortunate stereotype that athletically gifted black players are often deemed as "lacking brains", or skill, without any real evidence for it.
Cultural conditioning.
This is one of the worst posts I've seen on the CAF. French league is miles below the top 4 leagues. Gomis did well in France... I'm struggling to think of a striker that has actually done well in France recently and looked good when they moved away. Probably struggle to name more than 5 in the last 5 years of genuinely quality.
I can think of one... Big Swedish guy
Assumed obvious, personally think he proves the league is poorer. Best ever seasons in the French league when he is near the end of his career.
Perhaps but he's doing pretty well in the Premier league so far.
I don't know much about strikers only but there's definitely some gems from the French league - Martial and Payet stand out in recent times. Very early days yet but unfortunately there may be a case for Origi in a year or two. Nothing of a consistent note though. It could be a case of 2 different debates though, 1 is how good is the French league? The other is how good is the French league at producing talents?
I am :P In all honesty though, when comparing say Lukaku to Batshuayi: Lukaku is seen as one of the world's top striker talents and rightly so as he's been prolific at such a young age. But records aside, comparing only their qualities and skills, Batshuayi is superior as far as I'm concerned. Good technique, can finish well with both feet, strength, pace and boundless energy. He has all the ingredients to be a super player. I haven't been this excited about a signing since Hazard. Hopefully he gets some decent minutes soon.
Got a good chance to showcase his skills against Bournemouth. If he takes his chance then he will give Conte something to think about I'm sure.
Ibrahimovic, Aubameyang, Martial, Dembele for starters. I could go on and on.
And missed chances over and over again ala Cavani if not much worse. He might turn out into a fine player for Chelsea by some miracle but if some people are skeptical about it, it is very justified. I personally thought he was never good enough for Chelsea and was surprised he was signed by them.
The best Belgian strikers are all black. I'd say it's a coincidence
Frankly that's utter rubbish. Sorry. There was a pre-season poll on one of the big sites (BBC, Sky etc. forget which) with maybe 30 of their journalists, there were more than a few tipping Chelsea, and for good reason (the same one I chose them as pre-season favourites), they clearly underperformed last season, had a very solid squad with 3-4 world class players and had the money to supplement it, were acquiring one of the world's best managers and to top it all off had no Euro distractions. Those are multiple factors very strongly in their favour. They were rightly highly rated pre-season and one of the bookies favourites too.
Complement even. Sorry, OCD moment
That would be £50m rated Cavani who is currently on 17 goals in 16 games right? Hey if that's the yardstick we're measuring Batshuayi against, I'll take it.
still didn't win many games and the 2 top players they had still struggled
bich please. revisionism is strong with this one. These were the start of season odds. City 21/10, Utd 7/2, Arsenal 6/1, Chelsea 13/2, Liverpool 15/2, Tottenham 10/1.
That would be £50m rated Cavani who is currently on 17 goals in 16 games right? Hey if that's the yardstick we're measuring Batshuayi against, I'll take it.
Either you're truly dumb or you're acting like it. Batshuayi is nowhere near Cavani who is a striker who despite missing a lot of easy chances, still scores a lot. Maybe he will suddenly improve when given the chance but I'm just saying what I've seen from him before.
Of course I'm not comparing him to one of the most successful strikers in the world, I just found it funny that you found that an apt point to call him on. Basically none of us know yet whether Michy will be a success in the PL, but his record and stats show him to be a hugely promising young lad, and the negativity people are showing towards him is pretty weird.