Should Wenger be sacked?

Should Arsenal sack Wenger


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There is no way that bunch of gutless players, who clearly aren't playing for the manager anymore, rise to the occasion and win the Cup.

I still think top 4 is a possibility though, our fixtures are disgusting in the run-in and we're gonna drop many points.
Jesus, talk about gutless!
 
There's zero sense in not announcing he is leaving if he really was going to leave. And he said he decided what he was going to do even before the protesters came on. So I think he is staying.
This. If he actually wanted to leave, he'd have announced it as a way of getting the fans behind the team. There's no upside to delaying the news, he was leaving if that was the case.
 
Realist mate. I base my opinions on what I see and have seen. Arsenal have been bottling it and not playing for the manager. We have been dropping points left, right and centre.
Surely Liverpool are favourites with City for 3rd and 4th though? Arsenal are worse than us!
 
I think the situation at Arsenal is quite complicated.

If Arsenal out of top 4 and he (Wenger) is leaving, they are in trouble as it would be hard to recruit stars under the new manager, unless they are going to spend big in the transfer market which is unlikely to happen with the current owner. On the other hand if Arsenal remain in top 4, Wenger will see it as an achievement and he would never leave.

The best option for Arsenal is that they reach top 4 and Wenger leaves in the summer, so they can recruit a brand new manger, Allegri or Tuchel, who will upgrade the squad with some decent signings. That would be an exciting new life for them but unfortunately, not a big chance that is going to happen.

Edit: so many grammar errors, sorry :D
 
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As an oppo fan the answer is no he shouldn't be. If I were a supporter I would definitely be in favor of letting him go, as there are the likes of Tuchel, Simeone, and a few others who could be better options.
 
I think the situation at Arsenal is quite complicated.

If Arsenal out of top 4 and he (Wenger) is leaving, they are in trouble as it would be hard to recruit stars under the new manager, unless they are going to spend big in the transfer market which is unlikely to happen with the current owner. On the other hand if Arsenal remain in top 4, Wenger will see it as an achievement and he would never leave.

The best option for Arsenal is that they reach top 4 and Wenger leaves in the summer, so they can recruit a brand new manger, Allegri or Tuchel, who will upgrade the squad with some decent signings. That would be an exciting new life for them but unfortunately, not a big chance that is going to happen.

Edit: so many grammar errors, sorry :D
We are not getting the top 4 and Wenger is staying :wenger:
 
I think the situation at Arsenal is quite complicated.

If Arsenal out of top 4 and he (Wenger) is leaving, they are in trouble as it would be hard to recruit stars under the new manager, unless they are going to spend big in the transfer market which is unlikely to happen with the current owner. On the other hand if Arsenal remain in top 4, Wenger will see it as an achievement and he would never leave.

The best option for Arsenal is that they reach top 4 and Wenger leaves in the summer, so they can recruit a brand new manger, Allegri or Tuchel, who will upgrade the squad with some decent signings. That would be an exciting new life for them but unfortunately, not a big chance that is going to happen.

Edit: so many grammar errors, sorry :D

I'm not sure we need to recruit stars so much as keep the ones we have, recruit and develop better players that are not already stars, and have a manager with a clue tactically.

The ideal situation for Arsenal no matter where we finish would be the following.

-Let Wenger go by "mutual consent"
-Sign Jardim as manager
-Sign Monchi or Overmars as Director of Football
-Have the new DoF start the job of revamping our scouting and recruitment network
-Either get Jardim to convince Mbappe to make Arsenal his next move, sign Dolberg, or maybe Belotti. Basically, find a young CF to build around.
-Sign Sanchez to a new huge deal, convincing him to give the new regime a chance and maybe promising (a la Liverpool and Suarez) to sell him next summer if he is unhappy
-Sell Ozil for big money to PSG or somewhere else (love him as a player but I don't think he would be a great fit in a Jardim side)
-Sell the Wenger favorites who have been there too long (Giroud, Walcott, Ramsey, maybe Ox)
-Buy a good tactical central midfielder to complement Xhaka in the middle (Moutinho would not be a bad idea if Jardim came)
-Buy a few more interesting high-upside young players to start the further turnover of the squad

All this seems totally doable and realistic to me in theory. We'd have an interesting and frisky team, with a manager capable of developing young players and turning a team into more than the sum of its parts. Of course, it won't happen because our owners and board are completely spineless. But its not like there is no way in theory for Arsenal to get on a stronger course as a club. Its really just a problem of leadership.
 
They surely must already know if he's staying, even if it's not being announced? The big clubs will already be preparing for next season in terms of transfer targets and the idea that you can bring in a new manager and get done what needs to be done in one summer is at best naïve.

I'd personally be shocked if he stays given the circumstances. If he does the board might as well just admit they're not interested in progressing the club and only in it for the money. I've said it on here before but he'd have been sacked anywhere else years ago. He's far too frightened to spend big money on players because then he's got no excuse for not winning the league or performing in Europe. Some like to criticise the top managers (particularly Mourinho it seems) for spending big but they're putting their necks on the block. They know that if it doesn't work then they'll be sacked.

Wenger specialises in failure - and worse, he tries to wrap it up as success. That feeds down to the players who are happy to finish 4th, pick up their wages and all have a nice time in training where they won't be criticised or dug out by the manager in public (or I suspect in private) - even if you're laughing at your own team getting embarrassed when you're sat on the bench.

The board have a big decision to make. A new manager will want £150 million n available year on year for big names. That's how modern football is.
Is that you Josey?
 
Why would Allegri leave Juventus for Arsenal? He is managing a bigger club who have proved they are capable of challenging for the Champions League title - I could understand why he would go to a Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Chelsea, Real Madrid or ourselves but there really is no compelling reason for him to make the switch to Arsenal. He was able to buy Higuain for almost a world record fee last summer - there is no way Arsenal would have spent that cash.
 
Since I like Monaco and don't really like Arsenal it might sounds weird but I would like to see Jardim at Arsenal and Wenger at Monaco.
 
Why would Allegri leave Juventus for Arsenal? He is managing a bigger club who have proved they are capable of challenging for the Champions League title - I could understand why he would go to a Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Chelsea, Real Madrid or ourselves but there really is no compelling reason for him to make the switch to Arsenal. He was able to buy Higuain for almost a world record fee last summer - there is no way Arsenal would have spent that cash.
He's at a huge club in a woeful league which they win every year without chellengers.

Plus they bought Higuain as they knew they would get 90 mill for Pogba no?

Allegri will stay put though. He has is good at Juventus.
 
He's at a huge club in a woeful league which they win every year without chellengers.

Plus they bought Higuain as they knew they would get 90 mill for Pogba no?

Allegri will stay put though. He has is good at Juventus.

They spent more on Higuain than they received for Pogba. Juventus are fairly rich nowadays.
 
You think Wenger has enough left in him to be a success at Monaco?

As long as he is a head coach and not a manager? Yes, but he won't accept less power which means that he is probably going to retire after Arsenal.

Unlike a lot of people, I don't think Arsenal have been bad until very recently, Wenger main flaw is that he can't build a roster to save his life but he can make his team play football.


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Also my interpretation of Arsenal's problem can be summarized by the word "Comfort", basically the board and Wenger created a poisonous atmosphere within the club. The players know that they are safe with Wenger because he is too attached to them, while Wenger knows that he is safe with the board for whatever reason. Every other managers and players in the world have external pressure, they know that giving their fullest is required but that's not the case at Arsenal which created institutional complacency.

Which is why I believe that simply changing the environment could transform Arsenal and Wenger.
 
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Can someone do an "inspirational Wenger" meme based off of a stupid thing he's said recently and with the picture of him at Old Trafford in the stands with his arms spread out?
 
2015 said:
'Wenger to be handed massive warchest after season of underachievement'
2016 said:
'Wenger to be handed another massive warchest after another season of underachievement'
2017 said:
'Wenger to be handed even more massive warchest, coincidentally just before season-ticket renewals'
 
I think the title should be changed to "Will Arsenal ever sack Wenger". He'll probably be the first manager to die still managing :rolleyes:
 
I think the title should be changed to "Will Arsenal ever sack Wenger". He'll probably be the first manager to die still managing :rolleyes:
That literally happened to the mighty Jock Stein, so let's hope not. Wenger -as Fergie did- more likely fears the adverse effects of retirement on his health..
 
'Will Wenger ever sack Arsenal?'
 
If he is staying, the best time to announce it would be after the season is over and football takes a break. No place for supporters to protest, and people are having a football holiday whilst the anger dies down in expectation for a new season. Standard move.
 
This is all Gazidis fault. Should've never told them Wenger was accountable to the fans :rolleyes:

:angel:
 
A Wenger out banner spotted at an A League game in Melbourne.

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I'm not sure we need to recruit stars so much as keep the ones we have, recruit and develop better players that are not already stars, and have a manager with a clue tactically.

The ideal situation for Arsenal no matter where we finish would be the following.

-Let Wenger go by "mutual consent"
-Sign Jardim as manager
-Sign Monchi or Overmars as Director of Football
-Have the new DoF start the job of revamping our scouting and recruitment network
-Either get Jardim to convince Mbappe to make Arsenal his next move, sign Dolberg, or maybe Belotti. Basically, find a young CF to build around.
-Sign Sanchez to a new huge deal, convincing him to give the new regime a chance and maybe promising (a la Liverpool and Suarez) to sell him next summer if he is unhappy
-Sell Ozil for big money to PSG or somewhere else (love him as a player but I don't think he would be a great fit in a Jardim side)
-Sell the Wenger favorites who have been there too long (Giroud, Walcott, Ramsey, maybe Ox)
-Buy a good tactical central midfielder to complement Xhaka in the middle (Moutinho would not be a bad idea if Jardim came)
-Buy a few more interesting high-upside young players to start the further turnover of the squad

All this seems totally doable and realistic to me in theory. We'd have an interesting and frisky team, with a manager capable of developing young players and turning a team into more than the sum of its parts. Of course, it won't happen because our owners and board are completely spineless. But its not like there is no way in theory for Arsenal to get on a stronger course as a club. Its really just a problem of leadership.

He's out of their price range.
 
Old Oxtail Chamberpot may not be the best player in the squad, but he has been the only player to consistently put the effort in all season. He shames the likes of ozil and others in acting like a professional and doing the job he is paid for.

If the arse don't want him, he'd be a good squad player for us, better than Young for instance.
 
I wonder where Wenger would end up if he indeed does leave Arsenal. I don't really rate him that highly anymore as a coach (seem to be way too stubborn tactically for someone whose team has been stagnating at best for years) and the way football evolved his best years are ancient history by now.
So where could he go? China? Some lesser club with a bit of history (I heard he has some affection for Gladbach)? Or wait for an offer that might never come from a desperate big club?
 
I think this bosnian site was the first to announce the Kolasinac transfer to Arsenal (11 hours before Di Marzio). It says he was told Wenger will be staying

Kolašinac new Arsenal player

Sead Kolašinac the new Arsenal football player - exclusively learned BIHscout.ba network of managerial resources.


By Bojan Selesković

Kolašinac is still a few days ago signed a contract with Arsenal.

BIHscout.ba learns that Kolašinac already chosen and the number who will wear at Arsenal, and they got confirmation that in the next season, Arsenal lead the current manager Arsene Wenger.

Kolašinac is before the transfer could choose from several major European clubs, but decided to Arsenal is the best club for his career, and the leaders of Arsenal said that the club comes with the desire to win trophies.

http://reprezentacija.ba/220938-ekskluzivno-bihscout-sead-kolasinac-potpisao-za-arsenal