General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
Let's wait for John "bombs and bullets" McDonnell to arbitrate.
 


Jesus fecking christ, the state of this shite.
 
Sorry, I don't read Telegraph all that much and I don't live in the UK. I didn't know Telegraph supported Tories. I thought they were just pro Brexit
2015 - Tories
2010 - Tories
2005 - Tories (link)
2001 - Tories (link)
1997 - Tories
1992 - Tories
1987 - Tories
1983 - Tories
1979 - Tories
1974 - Tories
1970 - Tories
1966 - Tories

(1996-1997 link)
 
Who is this Ruth person?
The reason why so many folk vote Tory in Scotland, not surprising to see that momentum going into the General Election.
 
I thought Scotland wanted to leave the UK because it wasn't socialist enough?

So why, when there is finally a socialist candidate to vote for, are more than 80% apparently going to vote against him?

They are simply ensuring control for the incompetent May and her pretty damn far right backers.
 
I thought Scotland wanted to leave the UK because it wasn't socialist enough?

So why, when there is finally a socialist candidate to vote for, are more than 80% apparently going to vote against him?

They are simply ensuring control for the incompetent May and her pretty damn far right backers.
Well no. If the SNP + Labour made up more than 50% of the house of commons, they would find away to keep the tories out. It doesn't really make a difference if they elect a Labour MP or a SNP one, if all you care about is keeping the Tories out (or Socialism in)
 
Five press releases from the Conservatives today, four yesterday. They're boring every journo to death with the incessant barrage to their inboxes.
 
Scotland's to the left of England but I'm thinking more these days that independence is driven by identity more than anything. Labour frittered that away over the years whilst the SNP were obviously able to embrace it fully. The counter to this is now seen with the gaining of the Tories, who are far less on the fence than Labour on their unionism and British identity. So that's something I don't blame Corbyn for, he's basically just continued a longstanding trend (though his utterly abominable favourable ratings up there are probably making it easier for unionists to decide).

Five press releases from the Conservatives today, four yesterday. They're boring every journo to death with the incessant barrage to their inboxes.
Strong and stable.
 
Prime Minister - Jeremy Corbyn

Chancellor of the Exchquer - John McDonnell

Home Secretary - Diane Abbott

Foreign Secretary - Emily Thornberry.

There's the Conservative manifesto.....
 
Well no. If the SNP + Labour made up more than 50% of the house of commons, they would find away to keep the tories out. It doesn't really make a difference if they elect a Labour MP or a SNP one, if all you care about is keeping the Tories out (or Socialism in)

There doesn't appear to be much chance they'd reach 50%. So, as we saw with the lib dems in 2010, it's all about who gets the most seats overall. Any parties trying to form a coalition against the leading party will be drowned in cries of 'un-democratic'.

On a side note. Voting for the country specific parties, SNP/plaid etc, seems to me to break even further a far from ideal electoral system.
 
The tories big manifesto plan is to build a load of council houses. People are going to need council houses because if the tories get back in no cnut will be able to afford a house. So the tories will build a load of council houses and gather never ending rent off of them. Government landlord scheme.
 
Who is this Ruth person?

If the nationalists lose the next Indy Ref, she's a possible contender for British PM, most likely in 2027. For now, Ruth is among the leading unionist voices and rising force in Scottish politics.

In response to your earlier query about the Telegraph and Corbyn...the coverage will likely be rooted in at least one of the following assessments:

Objectionable as an individual politician, and a danger to the nation's foreign policy as Prime Minister.

Left-wing radical who intends to tax lots, and waste even more. An economic mistake for the country.

The Institute for Fiscal Studies has verged on the derisive when analysing the manifesto leak. Possibly, there are pertinent sources of revenue in the full document, yet for now the arithmetic leaves quite a bit to be desired. Even if this were not so, the manifesto represent radical difference more than it does radical innovation.
 
If the nationalists lose the next Indy Ref, she's a possible contender for British PM, most likely in 2027. For now, Ruth is among the leading unionist voices and rising force in Scottish politics.

In response to your earlier query about the Telegraph and Corbyn...the coverage will likely be rooted in at least one of the following assessments:

Objectionable as an individual politician, and a danger to the nation's foreign policy as Prime Minister.

Left-wing radical who intends to tax lots, and waste even more. An economic mistake for the country.

The Institute for Fiscal Studies has verged on the derisive when analysing the manifesto leak. Possibly, there are pertinent sources of revenue in the full document, yet for now the arithmetic leaves quite a bit to be desired. Even if this were not so, the manifesto represent radical difference more than it does radical innovation.

Surely that kind of rationale can't explain them rooting for a Tory candidate every election though?
 
Prime Minister - Jeremy Corbyn

Chancellor of the Exchquer - John McDonnell

Home Secretary - Diane Abbott

Foreign Secretary - Emily Thornberry.

There's the Conservative manifesto.....

Foreign Secretary - Boris Johnson

International Trade Secretary - Liam Fox
 
Surely that kind of rationale can't explain them rooting for a Tory candidate every election though?

No, but there is a decided personal dislike for Corbyn, far more so than was the case with Ed or Brown. It's not unjustified either, as hie comes with more baggage than did Royal court of Persia.

We used to have four non-financial broadsheets in the UK (Telegraph, Times, Indy, Guardian), and they quite neatly happened to be two right-leaning and two left-leaning outlets. Unfortunately, the Independent is now a solely online provider of content, and consequently a diminished force. Among the respectable newspapers, the Telegraph is the most ardent in its Tory allegiance, the obverse to the Guardian if you will.
 
Ruth Davidson is a complete shame, somehow this Tory revival is all down to her - despite the fact she's been leader since 2011. Funnily enough she doesn't get their shite performances before now attributed to her.
 
Ruth Davidson is a complete shame, somehow this Tory revival is all down to her - despite the fact she's been leader since 2011. Funnily enough she doesn't get their shite performances before now attributed to her.
Why wouldn't she be credited with it? She gets the highest net favourables of any politician in Scotland, took the Tories above Labour in the Scottish elections last year and is more than likely about to take them to their highest number of seats in a general election there in 25 years.
 
Also, to double check - are we comfortable with classing the Communist Party of GB as "hard left"?
 
Also, to double check - are we comfortable with classing the Communist Party of GB as "hard left"?
Why is the left 'hard' and the right 'far'?
 
So Sturgeon supports 50p income tax in England but won't implement it in Scotland. Consistent.

I'd actually advocate a higher income tax in Scotland and a lower VAT. It's not like they spend it!
 
Why is the left 'hard' and the right 'far'?
I usually think "far" sounds worse to be honest, but I can use it for the left if you'd prefer. In my brain hard left's better as it's distinguished from the "soft left" which is a fairly longstanding thing for mainstream lefties in the party.