Transfer Tweets - Summer 2017 | Keep it on topic
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It's the "My girlfriend goes to a different school, you wouldn't know her. Also, she's got massive tits" approach to football transfers.
I was replying to that poster's comment about buying players like Vardy so that it would weaken Real's stance and strengthen United's instead. I don't think that is a smart strategy, if the intention is simply to get Morata at cheaper fee. Let's just say, assuming Vardy would come to United for 20M, and Morata at its cheapest rumoured fee at 60M (or Ed's evaluation, whichever, besides the point), that would be a total 80M, excluding wages. Cheaper? I don't think so.
Not to mention robbing Rashford's playing time, or Martial's for that matter depending on where one or the other would play. Rashford and Vardy is pretty similar player in which both strength is using pace to stretch the defensive line. Someone is going to be one unhappy camper (bencher), and that could lead to unrest. It happened before with RvP, Rooney and Chica.
These are all just mainly theories of course, but I don't think that's smart kind of dealings. United are in current predicament is not because of Ed or Mourinho alone. It happened way before that but that's another story/theory.
Here we go. Cue hysteria.
What rumours are you talking about
Is it? I thought we had finally come to point of accepance that United had made it very clear that they dont want him and that its all leaks from juve and foreign papers?
That was only because of the Matic rumours, but then they've gone nowhere either.
Then people thought PSG were going to sign him, but they've subsequently not signed Pepe and also resigned Thiago Motta for another year.
I think there could still be legs in this yet, but the slowness is making people stir crazy.
Well the fact that United repeatedly briefed the entire UK press that they aren't interested in Fabinho also played a part, but I suppose they could still change their minds.
Chelsea haven't signed Bakayoko yet, suspect that is the season the Matic thing has stalled
Do you honestly think that we will do anything in the Champions league or even remotely challenge for the title if we signed Vardy or King?
Either of those would be an absolutely abysmal signing
Yeah, that is what I thought too.
Heh, no. He comes to be Marcelo's backup straightaway. Whatever rumors you heard didn't come from Spain i guessLoan move for game time, Watch out the space
They denied interest, they didn't exactly say NO WAY NEVER.
So, we buy Vardy for 25 + Young (say 30 Mn total?) and then spend 45 Mn on Morata (because somehow Madrid will be desperate to sell a player they don't want to sell at all). That makes it, 75 Mn + having two strikers instead of one and a much higher wage bill. All this to avoid paying 75 Mn for Morata (and just his wages). I've heard of cutting the nose to spite the face, but surely this is taking it to a ridiculous extreme?
For the nth time, Madrid don't want to sell Morata. He's agitating for a move in order to get more time, but Madrid absolutely don't want or need to sell. This position won't change come August (or Come September; sorry, couldn't resist) so I don't see what exactly you're after with your argument above.
Same holds for Perisic by the bye. Inter don't want to sell him - it's we and Perisic who want the move to go through. Buying someone else does nothing but inflate our costs all around.
Imagine you signed either(for no less than £30M, let's not kid ourselves. £40 in vardy's case)
Ed: i want Morata and i am willing to pay £60M for him
Flo: i want £80
Ed: that is too much
Flo: ok then, good luck
Woody goes and signs Vardy
Ed: i want Morata and i am willing to pay £60M for him. As you know, we just signed Vardy so we're not desperate anymore!
Flo: cool. £100M
Ed: but we're not desperate anymore! We've got vardy!
Flo: good for you. You paid £40M for him?
Ed: yes indeed, so you see, we're not desp-
Flo: we want £110M for Morata, take it or leave it
Ed: ...
The Sun. It's the hope that kills you
Barca did OK without a 9 tell Madrid to go and play with their Galacticos.
We need 2 strikers in any case.
In the right team I can see both hitting 30 goals next year.
Hmmm, wonder why's that...
You need to pursue alternative players and make power sellers believe you are not going to buy your main targets, so that they will be more accommodating. Come on, it is not rocket science, Marotta is pursuing Danilo, Aurier, Darmian, De Sciglio and Spinazzola in order to buy Danilo for 15m euros or De Sciglio for 5m. However, your business not my business, United have the money and can merrily pay whatever you are asked for.
You fecks should release Morata from Mount.Doom, this is slavery at it's finest.
I am expecting Sepp Blatter to go public about it like he did with Ronaldo any time.
This is what happened with madrid and monaco?Well utd have briefed the UK press of no interest in a player in the past only to sign said player days later
"He has snubbed Barcelona to play for Mouriniho" where do they get this from?
What some might not understand is that Real need to sell a few cast offs. Their squad is now huge and many have huge contracts. They want to add Mbappe to the mix, and before others have a chance to invest. If United show they are willing to look elsewhere for players, Real might be tempted to lower their price in order to get the funds to buy players they want. At the moment, United are desperate and time is on Real's side. A little lack of desperation from United, and a little less time for Real could make them relent.
I think that's the main point I think, especially for Vardy's case. He excelled playing in a team that defend, sit deep and then hit the opponent with swift long ball counter attack kind of setup. With United, especially at OT, most opponents would rather defend deep happily, and that would counter Vardy's game already. If anything, United already has Rashford for that, or even Martial.
Has nothing to do with Messi, Neymar or Suarez
plucked it from their asses
I think Bakayoko is most likely to leave if they decide to cash in on one of the two CMs
Fabinho has a 5 year deal and next year he will fetch as much money for Monaco
I wouldn't quote that bell sniff...who the feck cares what Tufty has to say...
This would probably happen (less desperation from United, time for Real) nearing the end of the transfer window. It still doesn't mean United should sign players like Vardy to make them less desperate. That is not just smart. Of course, at the moment it is looking rather bleak but it is still early in the summer. Of course it would probably mean less than ideal preparation for the team, but as of now, just have to play the waiting game.
When did that happen?
When literally every UK jouno reported the same thing within minutes of each other last month.
Oh that's right, that was when many decided that one journo was an evil racist also right?
Love this: Lyon need to wait until the stock-market closes before announcing a player sale.
Oh, and apparently telling everyone that's what's happening won't make a difference!
Oh, and apparently telling everyone that's what's happening won't make a difference!