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Will Spurs finish in the top four in the upcoming season?


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I thought they looked pretty good and I still think they'll challenge for the title. A draw would have been a fair result.
 
Would have preferred a spurs win or at least a draw. Lot of huffing and puffing and got outdone eventually by individual mistakes and inability to get behind Chelsea's compact shape.
 
I don't think that is what he said though - he said he would be happy to win a cup but our main aim is to win the title/champions league. I honestly do not see much wrong with that. I could be a fool though, an optimistic auld fool!

Fair play to you mate, coming in here after gettting beaten by one of your old rivals.

A particular Spurs fan has gone on an immediate holiday it seems.
 
Yeah we aren't at it yet, I put it down to a general lack of match sharpness and possibly not full fitness yet. We will improve a lot but we need to do it soon and try and get a rhythm going.

Once Alli finds his form, you'll be fine I'm sure. Eriksen is a shinging light in that team, I've been hugely impressed with him the last 2 games.

Also there's been a fair amount of "rubbing it in" over the last few pages, don't take it personally, you know who it's really aimed at. At least you've shown up to face the inevitable onslaught.

Unlike Glastonspur Glastonspur Glastonspur
 
Once Alli finds his form, you'll be fine I'm sure. Eriksen is a shinging light in that team, I've been hugely impressed with him the last 2 games.

This is why I feel they really need a pacy, wide attacker that can get in behind and stretch the opposition. Right now they're still too dependent on Kane, Alli and Eriksen to create everything.
 
We want to win trophies of course we do but if you could choose between a domestic cup or a league title I don't think many people would differ on it. We desperately need to win something.

Yep, it's true. I get the feeling it'll be a much more difficult season for your boys this year. Hard to match such a good one last year.
 
On another note, on the commentary I was watching on, Lee Dixon was constantly mentioning how high the Tottenham full backs were up the pitch, and how when they lost the ball there was tonnes of space, and often 2 v 2.

Definitely something teams can pick up on.
 
Spurs done pretty well from around the 25-30th min mark. Penned Chelsea back and created quite a bit, similar to the cup semi last season. Probably didn't deserve to lose.

If they play like that at Wembley rest of the year, they'll win their fair share of games.
 
This is why I feel they really need a pacy, wide attacker that can get in behind and stretch the opposition. Right now they're still too dependent on Kane, Alli and Eriksen to create everything.

They are definitely lacking pace without Walker and Rose in the team, Alli in particular is missing the latter I feel. Davies is a decent player but just doesn't offer what Rose does offensively.

Kane looks a little out of sorts right now and his movement in and around the box is suffering because of that. He worked hard, as always, and held the ball up well for the most part, but without his partner in crime, Dele Alli, pulling defenders out of position and creating space for Kane to run in to like last season, he looks largely ineffective. He didn't even attempt an effort from range which suprised me as well.

Alli's return to form - if and/or when - will make a huge difference.
 
They would do well to finish 3rd this season. Which would be fair enough tbh. Everyone around them strengthened and all they did was replace their first choice right back with a promising young CB.
 
I don't understand this Spurs battered Chelsea narrative that's appeared. It was Chelseas first half and after they scrored they obviously played on the counter attack from which they could and should have scored a few more.
I don't think it was as good of a performance that pundits are making out, Courtois had very little to do
 
One thing for sure is they have an amazing ability to avoid blatant red cards.
 
Mmmm! yes! because they'll come up against a Chelsea defense every week of course!
They didnt put Chelsea under any pressure at all today, Nope! :)
They won't come up against a Chelsea defense every week, just as they won't perform at this same level every week. If you are going to ridicule the fact of facing Chelsea every week, then you should recognise the ridiculousness in saying this level of performance can be repeated "every week".
 
One thing for sure is they have an amazing ability to avoid blatant red cards.

I'm not sure how Dier has escaped having a 'reputation' in the press for being a dirty player. No one ever describes him as one. Everytime I watch him, he plays like a thug.
 
Comparing @balaks to @GlastonSpur is like comparing fine steak to canned spam. Glaston's just a joke, no-one takes him seriously.

Glaston and @InLevyITrust were both on here posting their usual blurb at 2.30 within a minute of each of other and neither have been around since...

I only have 10 responses a day, I didn't think I said much inflammatory in here please enlighten me.
 
Still think spurs will struggle over the course of the season but I thought they played well today. Very unlucky not to be about 3-1 up by the end of the first half.
 
Comparing @balaks to @GlastonSpur is like comparing fine steak to canned spam. Glaston's just a joke, no-one takes him seriously.

Glaston and @InLevyITrust were both on here posting their usual blurb at 2.30 within a minute of each of other and neither have been around since...
Most of us don't even hate Spurs as a club


But it gets hard to cheer them when the most annoying poster on this forum is a Spurs one.

The worst thing is even if Spurs go on to return to their previous level, he will still be here baiting everyone with childish digs.
 
Most of us don't even hate Spurs as a club


But it gets hard to cheer them when the most annoying poster on this forum is a Spurs one.

The worst thing is even if Spurs go on to return to their previous level, he will still be here baiting everyone with childish digs.

As much as he is tedious there are posters who themselves derail discussion by attempting to bait him. Just put him on ignore and that's the end of it.
 
I thought Spurs would be a real dark horse for the title this year, ready to take it if the two Manchester clubs didn't quite gel properly (I don't rate Chelsea as a title threat). Even put a bit of money on them, Bayern and Real Madrid winning their respective leagues. Forgot all about them playing their home games at Wembley this year. feck. That was a waste of money.
 
As much as he is tedious there are posters who themselves derail discussion by attempting to bait him. Just put him on ignore and that's the end of it.
Done that in the last week .

First poster I have ever consciously done that with .

It's made the forum more sane for me. And you are right about the baiting posters. They too make this thread unbearable.
 
This is why I feel they really need a pacy, wide attacker that can get in behind and stretch the opposition. Right now they're still too dependent on Kane, Alli and Eriksen to create everything.

Agreed-part of that though is that they go 3 at the back to counter Chelsea, which means they sacrifice an attacker. I think the man to play this role is Son, though he is lacking fitness at the moment as I believe his preseason was abbreviated due to his broken arm. For me they are much more threatening when they play in a 4-2-3-1 with Son, Alli, and Eriksen behind Kane, but it's understandable that they wouldn't do that against Chelsea as there would have been too much space behind the fullbacks.

I'm also not sure if Davies in particular is well suited to playing at left back as opposed to left wing back-he did get absolutely roasted last year by Mane at Anfield, and for me is a better attacker than defender. If they bring Rose back into the fold it's less of an issue obviously.
 
They won't come up against a Chelsea defense every week, just as they won't perform at this same level every week. If you are going to ridicule the fact of facing Chelsea every week, then you should recognise the ridiculousness in saying this level of performance can be repeated "every week".

I said if they perform like that, they'd probably win 9/10 times, as in, the whole point was; the performance today was good enough to win 9 in 10x, as in; They were a touch unlucky with result considering the performance. I didnt say they're going to keep that performance level 38 games a season. :confused:
 
I can see them finishing outside top 4. Their squad depth is very thin. Also, can see them dropping many points at Wembley. Every team will love playing at Wembley and would want to do well. Spurs are in trouble. Whose decision was to have Wembley as their home, horrible decision.
 

It's amazing how many alerts I get each time Spurs lose a game, which luckily isn't often.

I thought we played fairly well today. It was similar to the semi final in that we maybe deserved to win, but came away with nothing. Wanyama didn't have a good game, Lloris was at fault for their second goal but that aside I'm reasonably happy with how we played.
 
It's amazing how many alerts I get each time Spurs lose a game, which luckily isn't often.

I thought we played fairly well today. It was similar to the semi final in that we maybe deserved to win, but came away with nothing. Wanyama didn't have a good game, Lloris was at fault for their second goal but that aside I'm reasonably happy with how we played.

Yeah it was very close. Chelsea were lucky halftime arrived when it did; that was Spurs' best period and you looked like scoring. I was surprised you didn't attack the channels as much in the 2nd half, though to be fair it seemed as though Conte adjusted the positioning of the midfielders to cut off service into those areas specifically as that was where your best attacks were coming from.

I also felt like Alli didn't get involved nearly enough, though it seemed as though Azpilicueta was almost man marking him at times so that's a tough ask. Still, considering how effective crosses towards him were last season I would have expected to see more of those.

David Luiz was the key to Chelsea being competitive in midfield I thought; it's pretty remarkable how little time teams have in that zone against Spurs. Dembele in particular was a monster, though his final ball lacked a tiny bit of sharpness.
 
Pochettino: "We played better and created chances to score".

Really? I counted a lot of corners, a looot of corners in fact, Harry Kane hitting the post and few half-chances via Kane and Alli. Chelsea also hit the post via Willian, and Morata missed a 100% sitter in open play. In fact, I cannot think of a single chance for Spurs in the second half. They were controlling the game because Chelsea didn't have to do it, and they scored from a free-kick because the guy decided to head it into his own net completely needlessly.

Spurs were fine, you know they are going to batter a lot of teams this season - but they will never, every win the league when playing at Wembley. Like many have said before and after the game, other teams will look at it as a cup final because of the stadium and that will always even out the odds a bit. Huge disadvantage, although probably pretty cool to play at Wembley every other week. Like a family that gets bumped up from Economy to Business class on an airplane.
 
So much for Trippier's "accurate" crossing eh? He wasn't terrible and did well in that moment where Kane was sleeping but for the rest it was just meh.
 
Yeah it was very close. Chelsea were lucky halftime arrived when it did; that was Spurs' best period and you looked like scoring. I was surprised you didn't attack the channels as much in the 2nd half, though to be fair it seemed as though Conte adjusted the positioning of the midfielders to cut off service into those areas specifically as that was where your best attacks were coming from.

I also felt like Alli didn't get involved nearly enough, though it seemed as though Azpilicueta was almost man marking him at times so that's a tough ask. Still, considering how effective crosses towards him were last season I would have expected to see more of those.

David Luiz was the key to Chelsea being competitive in midfield I thought; it's pretty remarkable how little time teams have in that zone against Spurs. Dembele in particular was a monster, though his final ball lacked a tiny bit of sharpness.

Luiz was awesome, did you see how he was one of the first players to press the Spurs defense? Pretty astute from Conte, no opposing manager can expect that from a defender/defensive midfielder to be honest. Dembele is great at certain stuff, like shielding the ball and winning it back, dribling down the line etc - but what does it lead to? That's his problem really, he has no end-product and often just ends up delaying the play and inevitable clearance from the other team. Great defensive destroyer, terrible end-product. And insanely slow... can't have immense strength, weight, technique and pace in one player - unless you are Paul Pogba of course.
 
So much for Trippier's "accurate" crossing eh? He wasn't terrible and did well in that moment where Kane was sleeping but for the rest it was just meh.
Yeah Trippier didn't have a good game. I'll be interested to see if he steps up this season to successfully replace Walker
 
The Wembley arrangement is a bad idea on every level, not least the one which will make Spurs' new stadium feel like a downgrade next year.
 
Luiz was awesome, did you see how he was one of the first players to press the Spurs defense? Pretty astute from Conte, no opposing manager can expect that from a defender/defensive midfielder to be honest. Dembele is great at certain stuff, like shielding the ball and winning it back, dribling down the line etc - but what does it lead to? That's his problem really, he has no end-product and often just ends up delaying the play and inevitable clearance from the other team. Great defensive destroyer, terrible end-product. And insanely slow... can't have immense strength, weight, technique and pace in one player - unless you are Paul Pogba of course.

Yeah thought Luiz was up there for MotM for Chelsea. His aggressiveness set the tone for the whole match; both he and Kante were immense. For me Dembele needs to shoot more; he had the one chance where he got away from Luiz momentarily but he's so good at creating space by dribbling that you'd think he could take more shots.
 
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