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MoskvaRed said:
As O'Toole says, it sounds like the UK government are positioning themselves for the blame game when border checks go back up. Either that or they are complete idiots who have yet to grasp the point that an open border between one country in the customs union and one outside involves squaring a circle.
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So whats your solution?
 
Stanley Road said:
So whats your solution?
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If we must go through with this Brexit farce, stay in the EEA. I am mainly concerned with the future of the UK, although destabilising Ireland after we had finally managed to achieve more normal relations with them is fairly ugly collateral damage.
 
MoskvaRed said:
As O'Toole says, it sounds like the UK government are positioning themselves for the blame game when border checks go back up. Either that or they are complete idiots who have yet to grasp the point that an open border between one country in the customs union and one outside involves squaring a circle.
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Farage said what is wrong about the uk turning its back on northern ireland. Alternatively ireland could turn its back at the eu
 
MoskvaRed said:
If we must go through with this Brexit farce, stay in the EEA. I am mainly concerned with the future of the UK, although destabilising Ireland after we had finally managed to achieve more normal relations with them is fairly ugly collateral damage.
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hard border or none?
 
devilish said:
Farage said what is wrong about the uk turning its back on northern ireland. Alternatively ireland could turn its back at the eu
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More wonderfully sensitive and practical ideas from Nigel. I look forward to the biopic that they are making about him. It's a shame Dickie Attenborough died, he could have directed it as a companion piece to Gandhi, leading his country to freedom.
 
Sounds like it'll completely feck workers. Us unilaterally removing tariffs doesn't mean the rest of the world does the same thing. Imports go down, exports go up. Are we going to devalue the pound further to compensate?
 
Silva said:
Sounds like it'll completely feck workers. Us unilaterally removing tariffs doesn't mean the rest of the world does the same thing. Imports go down, exports go up. Are we going to devalue the pound further to compensate?
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Minford was Thatcher's favourite economist. He'll view the workers being put in their place as a bonus.
 
So the biggest market for our products - the EU, is going to send everthing tariff free and allow us to do the same ? Why didn't everyone else think of that ?
 
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jackofalltrades said:
So the biggest market for our products - the EU, is going to send everthing tariff free and allow us to do the same ? Why didn't everyone else think of that ?
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There are other markets to have trade agreements with, the eu is not bigger than the rest of the world.
 
Please please please all have a read of this

http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86577

Written by Richard North today
North was previously research director in the European Parliament for the now-defunct political grouping Europe of Democracies and Diversities, which included the UK Independence Party (UKIP).
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It has some fantastic quips and interesting bits and bobs
If this is being glossed over by the UK media, though, the growing legion of complications has not entirely evaded the Irish Times. There, Chris Johns writes of the UK's stance being "madness without method". As a matter of EU law, he observes, all of the infrastructure necessary to police this new customs frontier between the EU and the rest of the world would have to be placed on the Irish side of the Border.

"Think about that for a second and appreciate the ironies", he says, "the discomfort and the expense. All of the border checks inside the Republic. Nothing on the UK side".

Somebody in Whitehall, he suggests, "is willing to bet that the Government will put pressure on Brussels to compromise, to do anything to avoid this outcome". He thus asks whether the British have finally discovered some negotiating leverage.

The tack has changed towards minimising the costs by changing as little as possible, giving the world (not just the EU) tariff-free access to the British economy and dumping all of the consequential blame on Brussels. "This could, at a very long stretch", concludes John, "be described as a well thought out strategy but for one simple problem: it's nuts".
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There is talk, therefore, of Macron punching numbers into a special, wide-screen version of his calculator, ready to present the UK with a bill that will dwarf the amount expected from Brussels by way of a financial settlement. By the time all the Member States have added theirs (not forgetting that air freight also has to be processed), we are looking at three figures, with a billion attached to it.
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Yes because the EU decided to leave the UK and not the other way round. Genius.
 
Stanley Road said:
Liked this article in the Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...unning-eu-strategy-to-bore-us-into-submission

"Friends often tell me that they know for sure everyone now regrets it, because a cousin went on holiday and moaned about the exchange rate, or some such."
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Stupidest and most lazy article I read in a while. Law is so boring, why we have our Law systems in place? Feudal society would be so much more entertaining or let people make their own trails on the spot! Damn boring acts and legislation boring our lives into death.
 
Plenty are regretting it already though Stan, my own mum for one. It's finally hit her now that her Spanish retirement dream might be at risk (I did warn her) and she's started uttering nonsense about how "they never asked us what we wanted" and "I thought they would take a Norway type deal with free movement still". Which is bollocks by the way, I told her at the time exactly what she was voting for but she got swept up in the Farage and Boris show.
 
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Rajma said:
Stupidest and most lazy article I read in a while. Law is so boring, why we have our Law systems in place? Feudal society would be so much more entertaining or let people make their own trails on the spot! Damn boring acts and legislation boring our lives into death.
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Feudal societies had plenty of laws, our current legal system comes from them.
 
I often wonder if the eu even want a deal with the uk. Maybe these unrealistic demands are a way for the uk government to take the hint and feck off.
 
Stanley Road said:
"There are no winners in this, only losers"

Donald Tusk
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There wont be any winners in this story. However, sometimes its worth ending up with a sprained ankle if it means removing an enormous and annoying stumbling block out of the way

Hushing the british up from interfering in europe affairs ever again might be worth the hassle
 
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Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Plenty are regretting it already though Stan, my own mum for one. It's finally hit her now that her Spanish retirement dream might be at risk (I did warn her) and she's started uttering nonsense about how "they never asked us what we wanted" and "I thought they would take a Norway type deal with free movement still". Which is bollocks by the way, I told her at the time exactly what she was voting for but she got swept up in the Farage and Boris show.
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Preach
 
Nothing new there. We've always known Theresa was an incompetent HS and this just proves it. Don't expect this to get any headlines on the BBC.
 
I have often wondered how the UK keeps tabs of who leaves the country. At the airports of practically every other country, when you leave that country (or the Schengen zone), you go through passport control. In the UK, they never check. The ONS stats above suggests they just guess who stays and who leaves.
 
MoskvaRed said:
I have often wondered how the UK keeps tabs of who leaves the country. At the airports of practically every other country, when you leave that country (or the Schengen zone), you go through passport control. In the UK, they never check. The ONS stats above suggests they just guess who stays and who leaves.
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the airlines have your passport details. when you scan your boarding pass they can track that, of course they know.
 
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