I think the poll should remain open until after the international break.
I'll nail my balls on the same fence as your chairmans transfer strategy.
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I think the poll should remain open until after the international break.
I'll nail my balls on the same fence as your chairmans transfer strategy.
Excellent - then it will reflect the lowest net spend in the Prem over many years, coupled with the team's rise to being the 2nd best last season.
I think you need a lesson on how economics and finance actually work when it comes to some of the worlds biggest sporting teams. Being top of the net spend league as a top 6 club is like being employee of The month, you're a winner and a Loser at the same time.
It spurs get top 4 this season I'll shave glastonspur into the back of my head pogba style.
Arsenal getting spanked has been the main story of the last matchday but Spurs drew at Wembley vs Burnley.
They still seem far too reliant on Kane and Alli for goals. I'm not worried much at all about Kane as I feel on another day he'd have netted a brace or a hattrick, but their lack of dynamism from wide areas continues to be a very real issue. I also feel that they look less solid defensively.
My post mentioned being both top (or rather bottom) of the net spend league and being 2nd in the league last season. The two taken together indicate that Spurs' transfer strategy is not all bad.
As for a "lesson on how economics and finance actually work when it comes to some of the worlds biggest sporting teams", one lesson is that you need to generate a large income ... which is why Spurs are investing in our new stadium complex. Another lesson is that you need to avoid crippling debt ... which is one reason why, given the stadium build, our net spend has been so low for many years.
Will the "top of the net spend league" trophy be proudly on display when you move in to your next stadium? I've never known someone to make so much of a deal of it as you.
Any news on Levy's genius decision to sqeeze Everton for Barkley? Do they still have the upper hand over The Toffees?
won't finish top 4 imo
Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool are the most likely
Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool are the most likely
I mentioned it, in case you didn't notice, in replying to a post which implied our transfer strategy was not good.
It hasn't been though has it? You let your best right back leave without replacing him (yet) leaving yourself one established right back who is now injured. You've still not addressed the issue of what happens when Kane is misfiring or injured and all whilst getting off to a shaky start already finding yourself 5 points off the early leaders. Not sure how if the window closes and you've still got the exact same squad as this moment in time you can call that a good window.
For clarification, I was meaning this pre-season where it's came across as very on the fence. I think now more than ever was a time to feck the net spend trophy and speculate to accumulate.
After finishing second last season this was their chance to to really kick on and take the next steps. One or two big names coming in to shake up the squad, create a bit of completion would have been something I'd have wanted if I were a Tottenham fan. Instead it seems the majority just want to keep telling us how good they were last season and how they are top of some net spend league that everyone is so jealous of.
I was talking about generally, over several seasons past. But if you want to talk about this window, then it's best to wait until it has actually closed ... not least because then we won't have "the exact same squad as this moment in time".
By the way, Trippier has a minor injury and is expected to be fit for Friday. Also, Kane was misfiring and/or injured for parts of last season, but it didn't stop us being the 2nd top scorers in the league ... because we have several other players who can score lots of goals.
We don't need to sign "big names". There are other ways of improving competition for starting places.
They look shite at Wembley, which was as much as I assumed before the season started. They're going to really need to improve how they play there if they want any chance of competing. If they continue at this rate, top four might not even be a guarantee, with Liverpool, Chelski and the two Manc clubs looking better.
I'm not as confident of them finishing top 4 as i was when i voted but still think they'll make it even with no signings.
Arsenal and Liverpool just aren't as good as them and as much of a problem as wembley looks like it could be for them,
i think they have enough to drag themselves past them two.
Fullbacks could wind up being a serious problem for them though imo.
They've seemed like a really well drilled team thats more than the sum of its parts for a while (its a cliche but think its fair)
One part kind of breaking down will hurt them more than others possibly, I'm not sure they have the individual brilliance to just pull a goal out of nothing
People have been saying it for a while but a good winger could make such a difference to them.
Think both walker and Rose could wind up being a lot harder to replace than you'd think.
Arsenal and Liverpool just aren't as good as them and as much of a problem as wembley looks like it could be for them,
i think they have enough to drag themselves past them two.
Fullbacks could wind up being a serious problem for them though imo.
They've seemed like a really well drilled team thats more than the sum of its parts for a while (its a cliche but think its fair)
One part kind of breaking down will hurt them more than others possibly, I'm not sure they have the individual brilliance to just pull a goal out of nothing
People have been saying it for a while but a good winger could make such a difference to them.
Think both walker and Rose could wind up being a lot harder to replace than you'd think.
I really think it could be no more than 50/50 that Spurs finish top 4 this season. Their away form was decent last season but no more than that, it was their amazing home form that carried them to second place. After two home games in Wembley they are already going to score less home points than they managed last season. If they don't improve their away form I can't see them finishing ahead of Utd, City or Chelsea and Liverpool will be a coin flip.
Too much knee jerking going on - Spurs always tend to start the season slowly under Poch, but they're fine once they get a bit of rhythm going. Don't think they've done enough during the summer for a title tilt, however they will very much be in the top four mix.
This might be a bit of a transition period for Spurs, which is not necessarily bad in the long term.
1) Transfers: Underwhelming but understandable. Sold Wimmer, got Davinson; looking to get Aurier for Walker. As for a winger and back-up striker, they continue to trust Janssen, Sissoko and N'koudou and are hoping Lamela returns well from injury.
2) Wembley: Will cost them a few points, already has, but Spurs aren't West Ham. The Chelsea performance was solid. Only difference it will make, imo, is turning them from outsiders for the title to favorites for fourth.
3) Underpaid and unmotivated players: Considering this is a world cup year, it shouldn't be a problem. The English contingent especially, will want to show the possibility of a Spurs spine for England 2018. After the World Cup though, we might see a bit of mini-exodus, biggest departure being one of Eriksen or Alli.
4) Not 'kicking on to win trophies': This is slightly unfair from us rival fans on a club that is moving in the right direction. The present team is quality and, yes, it will be an opportunity lost if it doesn't win a trophy.
But it is not the be-all and end-all for Spurs fortunes as a club. Investing too much in one league title might prove too much of a strain and they could return to where they started with Pochettino's arrival.
Poch and Levy are looking to take the club forward as a whole. They are likely to consolidate the club's position before taking the next step, so that when they do become serious title contenders, they remain one. There is a danger of becoming the next Arsenal, but as long as Pochettino remembers he wants to win things, he wouldn't become the next Arsene Wenger.
1) Transfers: Underwhelming but understandable. Sold Wimmer, got Davinson; looking to get Aurier for Walker. As for a winger and back-up striker, they continue to trust Janssen, Sissoko and N'koudou and are hoping Lamela returns well from injury.
2) Wembley: Will cost them a few points, already has, but Spurs aren't West Ham. The Chelsea performance was solid. Only difference it will make, imo, is turning them from outsiders for the title to favorites for fourth.
3) Underpaid and unmotivated players: Considering this is a world cup year, it shouldn't be a problem. The English contingent especially, will want to show the possibility of a Spurs spine for England 2018. After the World Cup though, we might see a bit of mini-exodus, biggest departure being one of Eriksen or Alli.
4) Not 'kicking on to win trophies': This is slightly unfair from us rival fans on a club that is moving in the right direction. The present team is quality and, yes, it will be an opportunity lost if it doesn't win a trophy.
But it is not the be-all and end-all for Spurs fortunes as a club. Investing too much in one league title might prove too much of a strain and they could return to where they started with Pochettino's arrival.
Poch and Levy are looking to take the club forward as a whole. They are likely to consolidate the club's position before taking the next step, so that when they do become serious title contenders, they remain one. There is a danger of becoming the next Arsenal, but as long as Pochettino remembers he wants to win things, he wouldn't become the next Arsene Wenger.
Nobody to speak about Foyth?
PSG reached 1 month ago an agreement with the player and club. At the end, he chose the Spurs to have more game time.
PSG reached 1 month ago an agreement with the player and club. At the end, he chose the Spurs to have more game time.
At the age of 19, Foyth is more of a prospect for the future than anything else. I know little about him, but with him being Argentinian I can only assume that Pochettino knows his onions.
Onions can make you cry though.
It will be interesting to see how Spurs deal with this season. It might be a bit of a struggle for them. In the end though I think they will finish 4th probably just ahead of Liverpool. One reason is I think Liverpool will do really well in the CL from the start, but burn out a bit in the league. While Spurs will likely go out already in the group and then do really well in the league like last season. They need to get Kane on fire though.
In for Llorente apparently think this would be a great signing if true, a true goal scoring back up to Kane and gives us something very different. Plus gets one over Chelsea.
I guess that would mean Janssen leaving? Wasn't Conte at Juventus when Llorente was? Will be tough to get him. Playing prospects at both clubs will be roughly the same, with him likely to earn a higher wage at Chelsea.
Indeed it's certainly stacked in Conte's favour, just think he would be a clever signing. Of course this could all be due to Chelsea courting Barcklay. Tomorrow could be a busy day for a lot of clubs.
Aurier is a good signing for a very needed position after Walker left. He will help them a lot.
I don't know why they're signing all these CB's though? Pochettino preparing for 6-3-1?
I don't know why they're signing all these CB's though? Pochettino preparing for 6-3-1?
We have 5 CBs to cover 3 slots.
If you're sure about generating higher revenue, why would the debt be "crippling"? Wouldn't you be better served by using some debt and closing the gap between second and first while servicing the debt with your revenues? Not having debt is not something to be as proud of as you might think.
Aurier to Spurs is a seemingly done deal.
Clearly Trippier does not meet the standards required of a top 4 club. His performances to date have been found wanting; lack of pace, naive positionally and gets caught forward far to often. Poch deserves credit for first identifying the problem, then acting swiftly to rectify it. Aurier, from the little I've seen, appears to be a significant upgrade. Top player by all accounts, though somewhat suspect on the attitude front. Ben Davies doesn't look up to scratch either - perhaps he'll prove us wrong given time and patience. Looked like a hot prospect last season.
From a United perspective, I can't help but feel we've missed a trick with this one. Consitently solid as he is, Valencia doesn't quite cut the mustard attacking wise. Would have loved Aurier to sign for us. Worse still is Blind at leftback, like Valencia he is solid defensively - one of the prems best readers of the game - but his distinct lack of pace limits his overall productivity and I feel against classier opposition than he's faced to date, he may come unstuck. Still a fan of Luke Shaw, just uncertain he can recover his best form.
We need to make a substantial bid for Danny Rose. With him at LB I feel we'll walk the league.
Clearly Trippier does not meet the standards required of a top 4 club. His performances to date have been found wanting; lack of pace, naive positionally and gets caught forward far to often. Poch deserves credit for first identifying the problem, then acting swiftly to rectify it. Aurier, from the little I've seen, appears to be a significant upgrade. Top player by all accounts, though somewhat suspect on the attitude front. Ben Davies doesn't look up to scratch either - perhaps he'll prove us wrong given time and patience. Looked like a hot prospect last season.
From a United perspective, I can't help but feel we've missed a trick with this one. Consitently solid as he is, Valencia doesn't quite cut the mustard attacking wise. Would have loved Aurier to sign for us. Worse still is Blind at leftback, like Valencia he is solid defensively - one of the prems best readers of the game - but his distinct lack of pace limits his overall productivity and I feel against classier opposition than he's faced to date, he may come unstuck. Still a fan of Luke Shaw, just uncertain he can recover his best form.
We need to make a substantial bid for Danny Rose. With him at LB I feel we'll walk the league.
Spurs need some sort of dynamisim in the attacking phase. I guess last season Walker and Rose provided that but so far they've looked a little bunt without them. Chelsea game ok that was a defensive masterclass from Conte but I just kept thing Spurs really need some sort of pace or something. They only really have Son. They need some one who can travel with the ball and beat men . Barkley could be a good option for them. Before the transfer window went wild I would have thought Lemar would have been a great player for them.
Potentially a big day ahead for Spurs as I'm expecting two or more signings today. Fingers crossed we get a quick attacker.
We're already borrowing a lot of money to help fund the stadium. If we borrowed even more money to fund a spending spree on player transfers and higher wages, then the total debt would become crippling.
The lesson of football economics is that you spend money on players when you can afford to do so. You don't gamble with borrowed money that higher spending on players will bring success.
Lemar doesn't really travel with the ball at great pace or tend to take people on.
More so than Erickson and Alli. Actually twice as much as Erickson. He can also play in that same position actually it's probably his best position but also you should look up a game against OM where he dribbles away from 2 then takes 3 out with a pass. He is best in transitions, travelling with the ball.
He maybe isn't like a Martial or Mbappe but he does move the ball forward and travel with it.
Agreed. Good business!
I agree, it's come out of nowhere but the more I think about it the better it gets. He is a very good player and would be a great option from the bench and would also bring valuable experience to the squad. Could be a very shrewd purchase.
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