True enough. I'm not sure what the press are like in other countries but in England the journos ask so many stupid questions.
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True enough. I'm not sure what the press are like in other countries but in England the journos ask so many stupid questions.
Over here in our own league it's no better. I've seen plenty of managers lose their temper and walk out of press conferences. I guess they're just universally shit.
Exactly. So stop with stat abuse.
Weren't you the one who thought refs favours manutd and actually beloved the conspiracy theories? Or am I confusing you with other City fan?
There's probably more than a kernel of truth there, I noticed there is quite a bit of baiting with questions rather than asking about tactics or general football questions (Lineups, injuries etc)
Since the forum has been opened up to newbies does seem to be an influx of City fans on the Wum. Wouldn't surprise me if some of these are duplicate accounts. This JLX character is constantly making postis which are neither factual or relevant.
With a username like yours i would have expected more from you. Have you watched us at all in the last 30 years. We are not a pressing team, especially under Mourinho. We are not bothered about how many yards every player covers. I might remind you that the 3 teams in the PL who regularly use the high press have won absolutely nothing. Maybe Jose's onto something. Who would have thought it
I disagree. Look at how he was when he first came to Utd. His range of passing and distribution was absolute class, and it had steadily fell away as he adapted to the league and the way we had been set up. He still does it from time to time, but it's not a prominent feature of his game as it was when he first arrived... It's definitely in his locker is all I'm saying.
It's not that I'm entirely sure either, I mentioned his excellent technique. That's why I said I'll wait until the WC, because it will be his second tournament with Spain, whose backline is simply ideal for the GK to systematically participate in build up. If he proves to be excellent there, especially when pressed, there's no debate.
Interesting to hear that it's equally bad over there. It's a shame the managers over here don't walk out of press conferences when asked numerous stupid questions.
Says the person who only joined up on November 7th, has 16 posts to their name - of which 15 are in City-related threads - with the only other post making reference to City's spending. Hmmmmmm.
A bit of further digging shows that you joined a day after Dept3942 was banned, who in turned joined up a day after namco was banned. You're not exactly covering up your tracks very well are you?
Please bring the newbie system back. Earning 10 likes was a great system.
I think a lot of city fans post on here as they know how bad the biggest city forum (bluemoon) is. You can't go anyway near the Utd thread over there and award any sort of praise to one of your players. You'll be labelled a rag, wum and receive untold abuse if you did. Credit to your forum for allowing this amount of blues on.
If Ashley Young had jumped in the air like Bernardo Silva I highly doubt you would have called that a penalty. Most blatant dive all season.
It's called being theatrical. Either way, the goalkeeper trapped his foot. He was fouled. How he fell is irrelevant.
It wasn’t me who brought the stats into the discussion. I already stated my opinion saying that the two keepers are not comparable at the moment. We need to see Ederson for at least 2 seasons before reflecting on his qualities. That’s not to say he isnt having a good start and he is definitely not an average keeper as someone mentioned.
I was not disputing your opinion either, I was just commenting on your stat attack, merley pointing out that it is at least a little bit more authentic comparing players in the same position, rather than comparing ones of different positions or ones with huge difference in playing times.
On another note, regarding the influx of City fans, a lot of us don’t go on bluemoon for the obvious reasons, and I personally find these forums surprisingly moderate and encouraging. I joined years ago but couldn’t be bothered with the newbies. I do understand that If I seemed to be on the wum I should expect to be banned, which is fair enough.
Talk about abuse of stats.
If you can't see the difference in where they pass the ball then it's no use to put some random stats. Here is a hint, one passes the ball to CBs most of the time, other kicks the ball to midfield.
Btw Smalling as better passing success rate than Kompany and KdB. You think Smalling is better passer of the ball than the other 2?
I accept your point, but which would your money be on? Be honest. Ederson takes chances De Gea would not take, because he is more confident in his passing ability, and you know it.
Are you really trying to say Ederson is better with the ball at his feet than DDG?
I’d say he is. Ederson is fantastic with his feet, but DDG is a better goalkeeper overall, best in the world for me personally.
Ederson is excellent with his feet, no surprise for a Pep goalkeeper, but DDG's distribution is unbelievable. Using their passing stats is a lame way to try prove Ederson is better too, obviously City play out from the back far more than Utd do.
It’s not the quantity
Hope they give it all in the last 2 Champions League games. Don't want to see Napoli out.
For any City fans who have doubts about De Gea's distribution...
2 minutes in
2 minutes in
It's not the stats.
DDG's distribution is great. However Ederson performs the sweeper role to perfection. He makes himself available for the pass like a deep lying midfielder, not a keeper. Plus he's really good at bypassing the press and finding the open man in midfield.
I thinkonk DDG could do that if required... That is conjecture though.
Yeah I know it's not the stats. That was my entire point.
If Shaktar need a result against City, they will get it. City will want Napoli out, they really took the game to them. Also, the derby against us at the weekend following. They will not bring their big players to the Ukraine
Those are excellent particularly the 2.22 one. But honestly Ederson plays though kind of passes every game.
The main difference though is Ederson doesn't require a player to run to the ball or stop running. Sorry no compilation but a couple of through balls by him. He's probably a better passer than most midfielders, at City only KDB and Silva are better.
Btw I firmly believe DDG could play for City easily and is far and away the best GK in the world. Just Ederson is a better passer, probably the best keeper I've seen with his feet so far, no contest in whose the better keeper though easily DDG.
yep you are right. the UAE knows the importance of social media. The influx is organised trained and controlled.
Great vids. Would be interesting to see De Gea in the sweeper keeper role wouldn't it? I think he has the tools to do it but has never played in that kind of set up.
No worries.
We’ll all disappear again when that 9 year old (and counting) mantra ‘he’ll get bored’ comes true.
Aside: Strange 1st ever post. Perhaps the influx of disorganised, untrained and uncontrolled namco alter egos is more the issue on social media...
City fans and their obsession with some poster called namco
He’s like the piece of crap on your shoe, you think you’ve got rid of it, but you twist your foot another way, and you spot it again.City fans and their obsession with some poster called namco
Namco
Dept
Someone @M18CTID spotted I can’t remember.
Etc
It’s more his obsession with coming back after multiple bans
I still haven't seen enough of Ederson yet to know what he is like overall or his longterm potential but his ability on the ball and the strength of that left leg is remarkable -you just don't see many keepers like that. Looks like he has great reflexes, composure and confidence - all attributes you'd hope for in an elite keeper. It's that ability to not only play/pass it out of the back but the danger he poses with the long ball that I have to say I have never seen in a keeper, with that consistency, before
For the way City plays, his quick reactions in coming off the line is very impressive. It seemed a spectacular fee at first but looking like an incredible bargain atm. The quintessential modern sweeper keeper
The other key aspect of a great gk is the mentality and for that I can't comment - any Benfica fans with some insights?
For the way City plays, his quick reactions in coming off the line is very impressive. It seemed a spectacular fee at first but looking like an incredible bargain atm. The quintessential modern sweeper keeper
The other key aspect of a great gk is the mentality and for that I can't comment - any Benfica fans with some insights?
Newbie here coming in peace!
Browse this thread a lot as it is always interesting to see what other teams think, especially your neighbours. On the whole it seems alright with just a few usual boring media myths being spouted. Only problem with the internet.
I read earlier that they would like to see us get injuries, interesting considering we went to Stamford Bridge with Komany, Mendy and Aguero out. The first two who have/will miss large chunks of the season. Considering what we spent on full backs it is quite clear this position is absolutely key in our success so to have our first choice left back out is a big hit. Pep also came out saying due to not having the width available with the full backs it also makes it more difficult for him to play Aguero and Jesus together.
Pogba was out, of course you will miss him but whilst both teams have spent similar amounts (City a bit more now) it seems instead of wishing more injuries on City the frustrations should be vented towards Jose/the board for not buying a squad. We have pretty much every key position covered and whilst we may miss a KDB if injured I certainly don't think it would cause a big dip in form. The tables have kind of turned from when we was took over, it is now United who go out and spend big on a superstar, City spend big but spread out over a number of key positions.
United/Chelsea looks the team who will run us closest, Spurs seemed to have bottled it sooner than normal. Looking forward to the derby and very interested to see how United will line up in that one.
Browse this thread a lot as it is always interesting to see what other teams think, especially your neighbours. On the whole it seems alright with just a few usual boring media myths being spouted. Only problem with the internet.
I read earlier that they would like to see us get injuries, interesting considering we went to Stamford Bridge with Komany, Mendy and Aguero out. The first two who have/will miss large chunks of the season. Considering what we spent on full backs it is quite clear this position is absolutely key in our success so to have our first choice left back out is a big hit. Pep also came out saying due to not having the width available with the full backs it also makes it more difficult for him to play Aguero and Jesus together.
Pogba was out, of course you will miss him but whilst both teams have spent similar amounts (City a bit more now) it seems instead of wishing more injuries on City the frustrations should be vented towards Jose/the board for not buying a squad. We have pretty much every key position covered and whilst we may miss a KDB if injured I certainly don't think it would cause a big dip in form. The tables have kind of turned from when we was took over, it is now United who go out and spend big on a superstar, City spend big but spread out over a number of key positions.
United/Chelsea looks the team who will run us closest, Spurs seemed to have bottled it sooner than normal. Looking forward to the derby and very interested to see how United will line up in that one.
at all the berties crawling out the woodwork on here all of a sudden. Ninety percent of their fan base has an account on red cafe!You should quote/report posts wishing players injured. Pretty sure that isn't allowed to do in Ca.
City fans and their obsession with some poster called namco
They're adorable aren't they. I think with many of them it's some kind of complex brought over from BM. Any negative posts on there about City & the user is labelled a scummy Rag. This can even be when the user has been a member for years. I don't know who this Namco is/was but he obviously must have got to a few of the Blues on here. It seems any new poster who disparages City is labelled as Namco.
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Dont understand the wanking over city at all
They spent more than 200 million alone on the defense yet they are sometimes shaky at the back.
Want to see them against a team like Barca
or Bayern.
They spent more than 200 million alone on the defense yet they are sometimes shaky at the back.
Want to see them against a team like Barca
or Bayern.
Apologies for any confusion, they didn't mean it maliciously it was said more I think that they would like to see how we would cope with injuries rather than wishing any harm to players.
You seem insecure, are you ok?