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Parliament currently at war with the cabinet over the report.
Just release it you twats.
Just release it you twats.
That's HIM?Nah, I'm still going with 23 year old Russian misinformation bot posting from his mothers basement in Macedonia. On the weekend he moonlights sexting as Busty Olga, 19, looking for western gentleman to marry.
I really hope they dobt let Davis get away with it, the useless git.Parliament currently at war with the cabinet over the report.
Just release it you twats.
Yes i saw that too. Strong and stable.Apparently the comprehensive, excruciatingly detailed impact reports aren't enough to fill 2 ring bindersand that counts as suitable preparation does it?
Call the whole thing off now its beyond a joke.
I don't understand that post.
I actually thought Davis was probably the best person for the job, on the basis that it had to be a Brexiteer and most of them are whackjobs. I disagree with Davis on a lot of things, our relationship with Europe among them, but he does come across as a thoughtful and reasonable person at least. Or at least I thought he did at the time, his latest job has shown him in a new light.
That sounds about right. I "liked" him, in as much as I like any Tory, when my only real exposure to him was seeing him on things like QT, where he is good at actually answering questions head on, and explaining positions to people who dont hold them themselves in such a way that they sound reasonable.He always gave off the air of someone more down to earth and less prone to political bullshitting than most of them. Apparently he's also however extremely arrogant and also very, very lazy according to people who have worked with him.
So yeah, probably the best we could have hoped for out of that bunch.
Why am I not surprised!
I'll repeat the EU commissioners are selected by the 28 individual countries,
not by Germany , not by France, they only select one each and the Commissioners from all different parties across the EU
The cabinet ministers are selected by the PM , not because they are good at that particular job, they are there to particularly help the PM in her personal power strategy
unlike in the EU where the Commissioners are answerable to the EU parliament
Do you realise how stupid it sounds when you say that 28 commissioners decide EU policy and make the laws with no recourse to anyone. You know it, anyone with any intelligence knows it it Josef Goveballs propaganda machine unfortunately Brexiters don't have the ability to distinguish truth from fantasy
Those risk assessments should be made available,
Comforting that the BoE says the banks could survive a massive drop in Sterling, double unemployment, GDP dropping by 4.7% and houses losing a third of their value, sounds like paradise if that happened.
Please point out where I have not given a valid argument,
Because you are aware of your deficiencies?
Thank you Paul. I have really enjoyed reading your posts, Paul, and I agree with much of what you say.
You may have also noticed, Paul, how much I like to keep saying your name. I find it adds a slightly patronising tone to my comments.
Do you agree Paul? Paul?
He's stopped calling everyone son at least.
Don't disagree, but they are selected, not elected directly by the public! (your own words Paul)
Don't disagree, my reference to 'roughshod' was concerning the national leaders not the Commissioners
Agree with the first bit, not the second, because if they were not good at their job the PM would constantly be having to change ministers making more problems for the PM. Hence out of self interest if nothing else the PM will choose Ministers who can command their brief. With the last bit I would acknowledge there is a collective responsibility element in the cabinet which reinforces the position of the PM.
Are they now? In what way are Commissioners answerable, to MEP's beyond clarification of policy/regulation, phrasing/ intent/wording?
Now what sort of childish, petty comments are these, its kiddies playground stuff, stupid, anyone with any intelligence, Josef Goveballs, , how old are you for goodness sake? This is the sort of commentary that doesn't deserve an answer, but I will point out I didn't say with no recourse to anyone, I mentioned other EU official bodies and that MEPS undertake scrutiny of laws and regulations developed by the Commissioners.
*extract from my previous post (they receive information from recognised EU bodies, which may be used to underpin policy, but they do not face any kind of selection process via the public, nor do they have to seek approval from the public at regular elections)
As I understand it they are being made available, but with safeguards to protect vital information on negotiations.
At last the Wolf reveals himself, will you be at the front of the queue to do this kicking Paul?
When you consistently equate selected/appointed officials with elected ones.
Your argument about relative democracy in EU/UK would be taken more seriously if you had compared the EU Commissioners to Senior Civil Servants in the UK, (as @712 does see extract below) you might even have argued that although neither Commissioners nor Senior Civil servants are elected, the Commissioners do tend to be more visible to the public, even if they remain 'untouchable' by the public election systems.
(712 said
I think the difference might be that the British are used to civil servants providing information and ideas behind the scenes, and elected politicians then deciding, presenting and arguing their worth; whereas in the EU the civil servants seem to decide and present policy, albeit with the permission of elected representatives. They are both forms of democracy of course, just that the British is better.)
Unfortunately Paul anything enlightening you might have to say is lost amongst the childish outbursts you make from time to time about brexiteers in general and myself specifically. You are right I am an old man, older I suspect than you and most on this thread, possibly on the whole forum. I try to take things in my stride, joke sometimes, maybe come across patronising at times, calling people son etc. but that goes with the ageing process, been there done that bought the 't' shirt, sort of thing. You however come across as pompous, full of yourself, and you like to gather a gang around you, like you have on here, slapping you on the back and saying well done!
I may be wrong about you, if I am I apologise, however we shall see. Strange as it may sound I enjoy our exchanges, even the 'silly old fool' bits, so please don't run off and hide somewhere, keep the posts coming, long way to go yet on brexit!
It disagrees with the DM's editorial line? Probably the sample size and fact they asked more remain voters.What's controversial about it?
Bears shit in the woods, according to a controversial new study that has blown the debate on animal defecation habits wide open.
Cheers mate. Id like that.
You should write for The Daily Mash.
Daily Mail again, soooooo many remainers read it, its bewilderingTell us something we don't know.
People who support Brexit are 'narcissists' who dislike foreigners, claims controversial study
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5124321/Fear-immigrants-linked-support-Brexit.html
- Belief immigrants threaten the UK was related to the tendency to vote Brexit
- People who just valued their British identity were not more likely to vote Brexit
- The findings were based on just 161 leave voters and 345 remain voters
- The researchers caution that as the study was conducted after the Brexit referendum, it may be that the 'yes' vote increased people's xenophobia
Daily Mail again, soooooo many remainers read it, its bewildering
The Sun is the best-selling paper. Somehow the DM is the world's most read news website.Isn't it the biggest selling newspaper in the country and one of the most oft-visited English language news media sites? It's not really that bewildering its articles are shared widely, is it?
The Sun is the best-selling paper. Somehow the DM is the world's most read news website.
The website's totally different to the paper though, it's more like soft porn.
Daily Mail again, soooooo many remainers read it, its bewildering
To me its bewildering yes. Especially in this thread. Dont you see the irony? No one is quoting from it but remainers, remainers that claim brexiters believed its lies.Isn't it the biggest selling newspaper in the country and one of the most oft-visited English language news media sites? It's not really that bewildering its articles are shared widely, is it?