CL/EL Semi Finals Draw | Pool to face Bayern/Real in final

Meh, I could easily argue the opposite for everything you just said. And being at home in the second game didn't really help City either, it's not an advantage if you get a sucky result away from home in the first leg.

That’s because City lost 3-0 at Anfield. As long as you get a half decent result away from home, being at your own stadium for the return leg is a big advantage.
 
People need to seriously stop underestimating Roma. They fully capable of knocking out 'pool

Now, reflect on that, while i'm going out to bet my house on Liverpool winning the CL
 
Yeah I bet you said the same in 2005 when they drew Juventus. And then Chelsea. "Hey if Mourinho can't knock them out it will be brilliant to see Milan stuff them". Don't be so ridiculously confident, they obviously have a very good chance now.

They don’t have a ‘very good chance’ now. They are the third favorites behind Bayern and Real, and maybe slightly ahead of Roma.

If they reach the final, whoever they play there will be huge favorites against Liverpool.

2005 was anomaly. 9 times out of 10 they lose that final. It won’t happen again like it didn’t happen in 2007 either.
 
I think getting to the Champions league semi-finals (at least) makes a mockery of this 'have to win something'. Even if we go out to Roma (and personally I would've preferred Real or Bayern) I would rather this than winning the League cup.
 
Stylistically an Italian side is a far worse match up for Liverpool than Bayern Munich/Real Madrid.
 
I think getting to the Champions league semi-finals (at least) makes a mockery of this 'have to win something'. Even if we go out to Roma (and personally I would've preferred Real or Bayern) I would rather this than winning the League cup.

Well a minor trophy is just that (league cup, europa league etc).

That said, still beats counting how many times you reached the semi's of a major cup.
 
Liverpool clear favourites to win now. I’m putting money on them winning it and Salah winning ballon’dor this year, with Gerard finally getting his knighthood
 
They don’t have a ‘very good chance’ now. They are the third favorites behind Bayern and Real, and maybe slightly ahead of Roma.

If they reach the final, whoever they play there will be huge favorites against Liverpool.

2005 was anomaly. 9 times out of 10 they lose that final. It won’t happen again like it didn’t happen in 2007 either.

To be fair, Man City were huge favourites to beat us over two legs. I actually think Real or Barca would suit us more than Roma.
 
On the one hand, i really want us to humiliate them in germany. On the other hand, going into the second leg with too big an advantage has never been good for us

I'll take a 12-0 aggregate and Sergio Ramos to take a dump on Kalle's head in the middle of the Allianz, thank you very much
 
They're second favouries in my eyes.
Favourites against Roma then underdogs in the final
 
Roma are obviously a good team but at this stage of the competition this is pretty much as good as it gets for Liverpool. If they progress to the final anything can happen in a one-off game with so much at stake. The only thing giving me comfort is Klopp's abysmal record in finals.
 
Well a minor trophy is just that (league cup, europa league etc).

That said, still beats counting how many times you reached the semi's of a major cup.

I know which I'd prefer. Champions league semi's puts you on the map. It also helps attract players, which the league cup doesn't. I don't think there's many sides that could knock out Man City 5-1 over two legs.
 
Think it'll be a Bayern/Liverpool final.

Liverpool will take the lead and then later implode. Klopp left seething. Michael Owen left wondering why any of the Liverpool players would leave the biggest club in the world. Lineker left wondering how Owen manages to maintain employment.
 
Bayern vs Real is going to be awesome, there's a healthy rivalry going on between them lately.
 
The chances are Liverpool don't win this, but why is a win for them feeling so fecking likely just at the moment?

They need to watch our PL match and City's CL games against them on repeat with 'do this, don't do this' pasted above the respective performances.
 
I know which I'd prefer. Champions league semi's puts you on the map. It also helps attract players, which the league cup doesn't. I don't think there's many sides that could knock out Man City 5-1 over two legs.

When has that ever been the case? A player specifically joined a club because they finished in the CL semis.
 
I know which I'd prefer. Champions league semi's puts you on the map. It also helps attract players, which the league cup doesn't. I don't think there's many sides that could knock out Man City 5-1 over two legs.

It's still a trophy vs no trophy.

I think we all know that it bodes well (in most cases) to reach the latter stages of the CL. But at the end of the day, supporters want their team to lift trophies.
 
Why have Roma been written off? The same Roma who just knocked out Barca and overturned a 3 goal deficit.
 
It's still a trophy vs no trophy.

I think we all know that it bodes well (in most cases) to reach the latter stages of the CL. But at the end of the day, supporters want their team to lift trophies.

I don't believe many fans would swap the CL semi's for the league cup.
 
When has that ever been the case? A player specifically joined a club because they finished in the CL semis.
It further confirms our upwards trajectory, and there have been players who rejected us in the past (Willian comes to mind) because we couldn't offer CL football.

Also, loving the narrative that Eusebio is suddenly a tactical genius because he changed his formation to outwit Valverde and Barcelona. I doubt a lot of people saying that have watched Roma more than 5 times this season.
 
I think if you offered the majority of Liverpool supporters right now to win any trophy, they'd bite your hand off.
I'd much rather have a CL semi-final against Roma coming up than a League Cup trophy, and I guess a lot of us would agree with that.
 
Because it puts that club on the map. Fernando Torres joined us after European success. It creates a buzz around a club.

Torres largely joined because Liverpool are a big club and there was a Spanish contingent already at the club. You won the trophy which I agree has an impact, it had nothing to do with being in the semis.

It further confirms our upwards trajectory, and there have been players who rejected us in the past (Willian comes to mind) because we couldn't offer CL football.

Again that nothing to do with being in the CL semis as you will qualify for CL next season anyway. I suspect Willian also had other reasons to choose Chelsea over Liverpool.
 
People need to seriously stop underestimating Roma. They fully capable of knocking out 'pool

Now, reflect on that, while i'm going out to bet my house on Liverpool winning the CL
I think if you offered the majority of Liverpool supporters right now to win any trophy, they'd bite your hand off.

Then you don't know what you're talking about. Not one single Liverpool supporter I know, would trade the CL semi-final, for the League cup. To suggest otherwise is frankly ridiculous.
 
Torres largely joined because Liverpool are a big club and there was a Spanish contingent already at the club. You won the trophy which I agree has an impact, it had nothing to do with being in the semis.

Torres joined after we lost in the final in 2007 - not much difference from making the semi-final.

I know it hurts mate, but we're there on merit, and the very fact that you're pretending to believe a League cup is a bigger deal, completely negates your argument.
 
I think if you offered the majority of Liverpool supporters right now to win any trophy, they'd bite your hand off.

If we won the league cup, the argument would just become “lol all you’ve won is 2 league cups in 12 years” instead.
Don’t think it’d automatically make the last decade a success.
 
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Then you don't know what you're talking about. Not one single Liverpool supporter I know, would trade the CL semi-final, for the League cup. To suggest otherwise is frankly ridiculous.
But why bring league cup into this? This is a CL semi final which Liverpool are widely expected to progress (I personally think you guys have a great chance of winning the whole thing). I don't understand why you're so passionate about comparing it to a league cup, as if Roma is the end of the road.

Roma is the best possible draw, but if you guys do go out of the Semis, then obviously you haven't a trophy, since a semi final isn't a trophy. But CL semi final is more prestigious than a league cup, that is certainly true.

But be optimistic man, what the hell.
 
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@Jamie L You'd won under the same manager and generally same group of players couple of years prior which was still fresh in the memory.

Monaco were also in the semis last year, but they are largely considered a selling club at the moment.
 
Roma are capable of beating Liverpool. They beat Chelsea earlier this season and obviously knocked out Barca. But it will be tough. This is the best draw Liverpool could have hoped for and gives them a golden opportunity to reach the final. Hope the pressure of being favorites in this tie gets to them.