It’s a daft point. Even if ZZ inherited a great team he still had to make them play together and get the best out of them.
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It’s a daft point. Even if ZZ inherited a great team he still had to make them play together and get the best out of them.
Three years into his career? Not at all.
Zidane won't come here - he gives eff all about us. He is either going to stay at Madrid long term or if he is bored already go off to manage Juventus or France. Maybe the slightest possibility being PSG.
What Pep and Zidane has done for Barcelona & Madrid can be done if we hire one of our own. Just his substitute's alone i'm sure it's more than just being a tremendous manager; he is literally a 12th man on the pitch having felt playing for that team before.
What Pep and Zidane has done for Barcelona & Madrid can be done if we hire one of our own. Just his substitute's alone i'm sure it's more than just being a tremendous manager; he is literally a 12th man on the pitch having felt playing for that team before.
Well, I'm pretty drunk. That's a good start.
Why I despise the saying "manager x hasn't won anything". Three years ago LVG would have been more qualified for the Madrid job than Zidane if past accomplishments were the only criteria
It also helps that Pep and Zidane inherited an embarrassment of riches in terms of players and can pretty much sign any player they want.
It won't be that easy for one of our guys to do similar things at all.
How many more in a row will he have to win before people stop calling it luck?
Only positive things I can say about Zizou's Real team is that they have tremendous individual quality and mental strength to succeed even when being outplayed. They have been consistently outplayed tactically by some of their equals (Bayern) but they managed to go through by their mentality and individual quality, don't think he'l succeed at other clubs like Pep has done.
It's not luck, he's clearly a capable manager. But you do need fortune on your side to do 3 CLs in a row, for instance winning penalty shoot-out against Atletico, Karius errors tonight etc. Having said that I still don't think he's the best manager in the world or anything like that.
I'd say last night has definitely put him alongside Cruyff, Beckenbaur.
As a player, he's amongst them, and as a manager. It's an unbelievable achievement. Three European Cups in a row... It's just crazy!
If he gets the same circumstances as Pep I think he might.
Germany: Foregone conclusion if you manage Bayern.
City: Blank cheque book to add to an already good squad
I dont think anyone thinks its luck. But Madrid have the best squad in world football with many greats at there prime. And yet still with all those things Madrid just seem beatable. Barca regularly turn them over in la liga. And Madrid just seem to squeeze over the line in many of there champions league knockout ties. Zidane seems a great motivator. and with his treble of champions league wins it would seem that ever club in the world would want him. yet strangely enough i wouldnt want him at Utd.
He has to be incredible, clearly. It is not possible to do what he has done if he isn't. How incredible, only time will tell but I'm certain now there is a manager in there. Would probably do well here
We vastly overstate the impact of managers on this forum. Especially in this era where the top sides have such absurd financial advantages.
I'd hesitate to put him in the same bracket, to be honest, a bit too early for him. Not only was Zidane not comparable to someone like Cruyff as a player, but rather a tier below — as a manager and mentor and thinker and founder of the Cruyffian Barçajax school of football, he hasn't created a lasting legacy in comparative terms considering the latter helped set into motion several series of events that culminated in some of the most iconic club and national teams of all time. And that's with all due respect to Zidane, mind - one of the 15-ish greatest footballers of all time, and an outstanding Champions League manager, thus far — it's just that the bar to Cruyff level in terms of far-reaching influence is astronomically high (extending from his playing days to the likes of Van Basten and Rijkaard and Bergkamp at Ajax — and Guardiola and Xavi and Messi at Barcelona), and cannot be compared with someone whose tenure as a first team manager spans across a minuscule 2½ seasons.
He was better than Cruyff as a player, dragged a team that was stuck in groupstage without him (WC 2002, Euro 2008) to both World Cup and Euro glory, scoring 3 goals in the WC final
Cruyff couldn't win a WC with a team that made the final without him in 1978.
Cruyff is all myth no substance, people overrate him for his name and the supposed impact his philosophy (it's not actually is) and blablabla.
Cruyff has nothing over Zidane, played in an easier era and has less decisive career moment.
I don't want Zidane, what I want is that we must have a style of our own we can bring games to everyone and, play out in every week with the same style of play and beautiful football. Zidane is more flexible with his tactical, adapt whether depend on their opponents but less defensive than Jose.
Good grief.
This is exactly why Zidane the player is the most overrated of all time.
Best in the world. Didn't spend a cent on big names since he came in, promoted the kids, and has achieved the impossible in winning not 2 but 3, 3 CLs in a row.
Who cares about that tinpot league if you win the big one every year.
Who cares about that tinpot league if you win the big one every year.
This Madrid team can manage themselves at times. Littered with winners and leaders.
Wow. You obviously never watched much of Cruyff because your post is beyond clueless. Zidane was an incredible player but Cruyff was insane. Go back and watch the 1974 World Cup; one of the GOAT performances.
Not with his awful English. I can't see him staying at Madrid for too long, but going to England to manage afterwards seems unlikely.
Amazing achievement by Zidane. Absolutely amazing.
Can't disagree with that at all. This team had been salivating over la decima for so long. They win it then get there in a row. Manager deserves a lot of credit .
He could retire this season, his name would still be a legend already. Fecking 3 times in a row, while modestly spent on players. No bullshiting about the need to build a team to his own image before playing good football and winning trophies.
Incredible really. I was sooo skeptical when he was announced as their manager. He's been incredible
I don't think even his sister would say he'd be this successful
. Zero experience, and it was Madrid, where even the 'best' manager could crumble.He is someone big ego players listen to and he seem like a good man manager, his team is really fused. He has certain SAF qualities in that regard. Still can't see him coming to England,seem like a Spain Italy man thru and thru or maybe NT
The underrating of Zidane's managerial prowess on this forum is amazing . The man won 3 Champions league on the trot . This is not just luck or anything . The way he integrated the youth from the academy i.e. Casemeiro,Ascensio and Lucas Vasquez along with handling the experience and egos of CR7,Ramos and Bale is amazing . His tactical game is mostly on point since he only tries out positive and attacking play . He is extremely well respected by the players and management and he is a great motivator . So technically he ticks all the boxes to be regarded as the best atleast right now .
Great achievement considering he’s not even spending that much money.
More CL titles than Fergie 
Zidane has some incredibly hard decisions to make this summer. Both Bale and Ronaldo seem ready for a move. I'm sure Real can convince them to stay if they want. Really tricky decision and it will set the tone for the next few seasons to come.
Bale was very disgruntled in post interview wanted to start was frustrated and vocalized his opinions on Zidane. Said he wants to start weekly and will sit down in summer and see where he is at in that regard. Ronaldo is Mr Madrid, probably wants a new bumper deal same story every year!
Hypothetically speaking, if Madrid were offered the chance to swap Ronaldo and Bale with Neymar and Mbappe, they would take it imo. With PSG getting into trouble with FFP, I can see Madrid coming in with a huge bid for one of these players. Salah, Kane, Hazard, Lewandowski(unlikely) could also be targets. Will be interesting to see how things unfold. United should be ready to steal a deal if they get a chance.
Both those players are poster boys and will sell tickets and merchandise no matter what AND have a few years left. Bale is phenomenal and look fit (ATM). As for PSG I think in that scenario we should get Veratti if possible. The kid has sublime talent, Zeal&heart.
3 CL back to back, but for some reason I still don't think he is a great manager.
I'm willing to bet you didn't watch WC 1974.
Using NT performances to put Cruyff above Zidane is one big joke anyway because Zidane for France won everything while being by far their best player and his teammates being stuck in groupstages without him in both 2002 and 2008.
Zidane has 3 goals in 2 WC finals, was the best player in the World Cup,Euro,UCL.
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That awards goes to Cruyff who's overrated by 1990s cules who never watched him play and elevates him because he's their club legend.
Football was so slow in the 70s that half of what Cruyff did wouldn't have worked in Zidane's era.