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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Speaking in Berlin on his first trip since taking up the role earlier this month, Jeremy Hunt told his German counterpart Heiko Maas that “there is now a very real threat of a Brexit no deal by accident, and this is because many people in the EU are thinking that they just have to wait long enough and Britain will blink.”
"Without a real change in approach from the EU negotiators we do now face a real risk of a no deal by accident, and that would be incredibly challenging economically. Britain would find that challenging, but in the end we would find a way not just to survive but to thrive economically. But my real concern is that it would change British public attitudes to Europe for a generation."

Or in other words " if the EU don't give in to our ridiculous demands we will shoot ourselves in the head but my real concern is that we would leave the EU"

He's totally insane. Get rid of one nutter and another one comes along. A whole conveyor belt of useless incompetents.
 
You'd think it was the EU that stopped us drafting a white paper for nearly two years.
I don't even know where to start with Hunt. He's lucky they didn't run him out of town after that nonsense.
 
Anyone else starting to think they are deliberately screwing up and stalling these negotiations to get a hard brexit? (And no tax regs for their billionaire mates)
 
Speaking in Berlin on his first trip since taking up the role earlier this month, Jeremy Hunt told his German counterpart Heiko Maas that “there is now a very real threat of a Brexit no deal by accident, and this is because many people in the EU are thinking that they just have to wait long enough and Britain will blink.”

So he reckons the EU better blink because the UK aren't going to. For fecks sake..
 
Anyone else starting to think they are deliberately screwing up and stalling these negotiations to get a hard brexit? (And no tax regs for their billionaire mates)

I'd suggest that either they are deliberately screwing it up in the hope of being able to dump Brexit and not leave or that they are aiming to crash out with a no deal to avoid having to comply with the Anti Tax Avoidance Directive being implemented in January next year as that might hurt their big business buddies. Both sound like insane conspiracy theories but given the insanity we hear on a daily basis about motorways being closed to serve as lorry parks and food and medicine stockpiling and rationing you do have to wonder.
 
I'd suggest that either they are deliberately screwing it up in the hope of being able to dump Brexit and not leave or that they are aiming to crash out with a no deal to avoid having to comply with the Anti Tax Avoidance Directive being implemented in January next year as that might hurt their big business buddies. Both sound like insane conspiracy theories but given the insanity we hear on a daily basis about motorways being closed to serve as lorry parks and food and medicine stockpiling and rationing you do have to wonder.

Not just their big business buddies - if you think that the most pro-leave Tory MPs, Lords and donors aren't all tax-dodging themselves then you haven't been watching closely enough. It's personal for them.
 
I'd suggest that either they are deliberately screwing it up in the hope of being able to dump Brexit and not leave or that they are aiming to crash out with a no deal to avoid having to comply with the Anti Tax Avoidance Directive being implemented in January next year as that might hurt their big business buddies. Both sound like insane conspiracy theories but given the insanity we hear on a daily basis about motorways being closed to serve as lorry parks and food and medicine stockpiling and rationing you do have to wonder.
I believe that this chaos is the Tory Brexiter "strategy" for negotiating with the EU. Feck around for a couple of years and eventually the EU will be desperate enough for a deal to give us what we want.

No deal can be blamed on evil EU beaurocrats if necessary.
 
Anyone else starting to think they are deliberately screwing up and stalling these negotiations to get a hard brexit? (And no tax regs for their billionaire mates)
There are a powerful group of people who want to turn this country into a low tax low regulation economic pariah. Sort of an America on steroids. After we crash out, just watch how taxes are cut, just watch how regulation (banking, food, safety, healthcare etc) is done away with under the guise of keeping the economy afloat. Just watched h how fund managers and American billionaires pick up cheap public assets.
 
For the 4581st time, the fix was in from the start. Years ago.
 
Anyone else starting to think they are deliberately screwing up and stalling these negotiations to get a hard brexit? (And no tax regs for their billionaire mates)
If you're asking does Theresa May want a hard brexit, then I think not. Of the others some do and some don't, and it's that disagreement that's led to no real strategy and hence the screwing up. Same disagreement that started the whole cock-up in the first place of course.
 
Asked whether Hunt’s threat of declining British-EU relations, or the Brexit secretary Dominic Raab’s threat of the UK not paying £39bn in outstanding bills if trade talks stalled, were the kind of good manners usually associated of the British, Maas replied: “At the recent Nato summit I took part in bilateral talks with [the Turkish president] Mr Erdoğan and Mr Trump, so good manners are always relative.”

Who says the Germans don't have a sense of humour..
 
May up in Newcastle doing a Q&A with the public. The highlight?

"Q: Are there any plans to reduce the cost of university education? Up here it is easy to get on a ferry and go to Holland for university.

May says the government is looking at this at the moment. Cutting the length of university courses from three years to two years might be an option, she says."


Ffs..
 
They don't want oiks in universities. They only want middle and upper-class kids to be educated.
Ultimately for everyone to get a university education they will need to lower the standards.

We'll wind up with a glut of people with 2:1 business degrees, flipping burgers and nobody with any vocational skills to solve the country's productivity problem.

There should be a wider choice of career path for young people - and for the country.
 
Ultimately for everyone to get a university education they will need to lower the standards.

We'll wind up with a glut of people with 2:1 business degrees, flipping burgers and nobody with any vocational skills to solve the country's productivity problem.

There should be a wider choice of career path for young people - and for the country.

Who wants everyone to get a university education? It should be open to anyone who qualifies, but it shouldn't be just something that everyone gets. Is Labour pushing for that or are you just throwing out a strawman?
 
Who wants everyone to get a university education? It should be open to anyone who qualifies, but it shouldn't be just something that everyone gets. Is Labour pushing for that or are you just throwing out a strawman?
Where else can you sit around dossing for years smoking dope and pissing it up? And all that at the same time as studying for a degree as a gnat surgeon.
 
Where else can you sit around dossing for years smoking dope and pissing it up? And all that at the same time as studying for a degree as a gnat surgeon.

Sure, those darn kids should be straight down the pits doing an honest days work for an honest days pay! They don’t know how easy they have it, not like in our day. We’d walk 12 miles to school with no shoes in the snow.. etc etc..
 
Sure, those darn kids should be straight down the pits doing an honest days work for an honest days pay! They don’t know how easy they have it, not like in our day. We’d walk 12 miles to school with no shoes in the snow.. etc etc..
Thats the spirit
 
Sure, those darn kids should be straight down the pits doing an honest days work for an honest days pay! They don’t know how easy they have it, not like in our day. We’d walk 12 miles to school with no shoes in the snow.. etc etc..
No shoes?!? We used to dream of having no shoes!
 
Degrees should be free for vocations that the country actually needs like engineering and medicine.

If someone wants to spend 3 years doing Beyoncé Studies or something equally useless they should pay for it.

Likewise the education system should offer easier routes into useful, practical apprenticeships.

All IMO.
 
The gullibles will believe anything that comes out of his mouth.
Because they will believe what they want to believe.

That's the difference , they don't have the capacity to be able to tell when someone is obviously telling lies.

You do realise that Mogg is a backbencher and not in the cabinet?
 
Degrees should be free for vocations that the country actually needs like engineering and medicine.

If someone wants to spend 3 years doing Beyoncé Studies or something equally useless they should pay for it.

Likewise the education system should offer easier routes into useful, practical apprenticeships.

All IMO.


That's such a shit idea. The country needs culture too, maybe you don't care about art but it's part of who we are and I'm glad that there are people who are passionate about that kind of stuff and able to further the understanding of people who aren't so passionate.
 
Degrees should be free for vocations that the country actually needs like engineering and medicine.

If someone wants to spend 3 years doing Beyoncé Studies or something equally useless they should pay for it.

Likewise the education system should offer easier routes into useful, practical apprenticeships.


All IMO.

It should, but the government we have at the moment will think that the situation where private profitable companies have countless people doing unpaid internships is a better, more cost effective option for themselves and their big-business mates.
 
If someone wants to spend 3 years doing Beyoncé Studies or something equally useless they should pay for it.
Feck's sake. There goes my hope of tenure...
 
That's such a shit idea. The country needs culture too, maybe you don't care about art but it's part of who we are and I'm glad that there are people who are passionate about that kind of stuff and able to further the understanding of people who aren't so passionate.

Apparently only the rich kids should be allowed to become artists, musicians and authors.
 
Apparently only the rich kids should be allowed to become artists, musicians and authors.


I hate it when people moan about poncey degrees. That's pretty much the fecking point of universities, to further knowledge and stimulate creativity. It's not to churn out cnuts looking to get loaded working in finance.
 
So? If you think someone simply being Catholic is a reason to trust them then you either have no expose to the Catholic Church or don't want to realise the pure evil visited upon mainly children by the church. My point is that being a Catholic doesn't make you any more or less likely to be selfish or trustworthy than an Muslim or an Atheist.

Mogg hasn't shown himself to be a career politician like the others. He's more passionate about his beliefs than his political career.


The EU wants us to remain but if we insist on leaving then they want us to leave on the date we decided to leave. Why would they allow us to carry on proposing stuff that is never going to be acceptable for another 2 years? To extend takes the agreement of all 27 members and it is going to take a commitment to another referendum at the very least for them all to agree to let us have longer to get our shit together.

We have a weak prime minister who changes her mind like the wind.


David Davis and plans are 2 things you don't really associate with each other.

He had plans in case of no deal.

Some companies will and those who stay may do for a shorter period than they would otherwise. Those that stay will on average invest less.

Why?

No. I'm sure everyone knows we contribute about 6% of EU GDP.

About 40% of British exports go to the EU (a declining market), and when we leave the EU we shall automatically be one of the biggest customers.