Has political correctness actually gone mad?

You would think that The Uni of Manchester would avoid this given what their Trans Officer has been alleged to get upto at their desk #jessbradley

Amazing how many comments I've read on this story like this that can't figure out that a students union is not actually a department of a university. I saw some comments on the Evening News site calling for the leaders of the university to lose their (well, they spelled it 'there') jobs over this and asked how much time and money had been spent/wasted on it. It's nothing to do with the uni!

If there's anywhere 'daft' new rules are commonplace and on the cutting edge of political correctness, it's going to be a student union. I don't understand why people are so outraged about something that will only ever effect a tiny number of people, most of whom have that have voted for the new rule.
 
Tommy Robinson fan told to 'get out' of class on first day of college

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/ne...235089?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

"A political debate on the first day of their art and employability course". Ha. Struggling to see where those two subjects might intersect.


Amazing how many comments I've read on this story like this that can't figure out that a students union is not actually a department of a university. I saw some comments on the Evening News site calling for the leaders of the university to lose their (well, they spelled it 'there') jobs over this and asked how much time and money had been spent/wasted on it. It's nothing to do with the uni!

If there's anywhere 'daft' new rules are commonplace and on the cutting edge of political correctness, it's going to be a student union. I don't understand why people are so outraged about something that will only ever effect a tiny number of people, most of whom have that have voted for the new rule.

To be fair they are still funded by the university and required to abide by the universities regulations and policies.

But yeh, in the UK at least most of the idiocy is concentrated in student union politics, and they're almost always run by twats who get away with it because 95% of the student population dngaf.
 
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Ben Shapiro is tiresome, as most of his likes on YouTube.

I occasionally tug one out to Lauren Southern though :drool:
 
shes a racist too, so thats not surprising

You can't even fathom how arousing a hot young blonde talking about border control, destroying feminism and ridiculing gender fluidity is to someone like me.
 
I wouldnt let my dog hump Lauren Southern.

Doubt she cares though, my dog's black.
 
Who? Is she like Tomi Lahren? Abhorrent views?

I *think* Tomi is less right-wing than Lauren, but I can never remember who is who - there is Laura Loomer, Lahern, and Lauren - all right-wing blondes (all Canadian?)
 
Laura Loomer is the one that looks like a proper American History X nazi. Always thought she was the worst, but that's based solely on the way she looks.

They're all people that give me the urge to post ban-worthy stuff, which I self censor in to lame jokes about my fictional dog.
 
There are several other somehow decent looking alt-right females on the Tube. I actually think it is a huge scam to attract fanboys who will donate to them out of stupidity and a sense of common ground, plus wankabillity.

Not a bad idea tbh.
 
There are several other somehow decent looking alt-right females on the Tube. I actually think it is a huge scam to attract fanboys who will donate to them out of stupidity and a sense of common ground, plus wankabillity.

Not a bad idea tbh.

I kid you not, I once saw a picture posted that had on one side all these blonde right wing ladies, and on the other side had a fair bit of women who looked like they were from an lgbt protest, you know the purple hair and what not, and it was captioned “the reason liberals are always so angry is because our women look like this while their women look like that” pointing to the two groups of women. I don’t doubt that conservatives probably use these women to lure in simple minded men.
 
I kid you not, I once saw a picture posted that had on one side all these blonde right wing ladies, and on the other side had a fair bit of women who looked like they were from an lgbt protest, you know the purple hair and what not, and it was captioned “the reason liberals are always so angry is because our women look like this while their women look like that” pointing to the two groups of women. I don’t doubt that conservatives probably use these women to lure in simple minded men.

Yeah, I saw a short clip of Milo on YouTube which has now been deleted shortly after he got "excomunicated" from the alt-right, and he said something along the lines of atleast not being one of the profit based and posing newcomers from Canada.

Quite a few of them made their name via that ridiculous pizzagate thing also. I figure most of them have scripts written for them and their research done by others, and they just read them up on the Tube to draw in donations from fools.
 
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Just watched a few clips from the show Married With Children. Holy hell, that show would not fly today. :lol:
 
"Now wait a second, Peg - the kids are here. If you want to have sex, they'll have to leave. And if you want it to be good, you'll have to leave."
 
People get so outraged against PC I wonder how they react to the real feckries that occur in the world everyday. Ironically most don't even bat an eyelid... But students restricting one's ability to express themselves for example? What is the world coming to?
 
I love listening to this guy. He should be PM.

Meh, he's alright but usually just makes sort of fairly obvious statements while shouting loudly. There's not much substance behind him.
 
New study out by More In Common, one of the charities set up in memory of murdered MP Jo Cox called Hidden Tribes: A Study of America's Polarized Landscape.

It's all about discovering attitudes and opinions on various topics for different groups within American society. Key to this thread there is a section on political correctness.

A majority of people in every age group that was asked agreed that political correctness was a problem. 24-29 year olds thought it was less of a problem than other age groups but 74% still said it was.
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People in every racial group said it was a problem. Native Americans really think it's a problem:
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People at every level of education agreed that it was a problem:
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The study split people into 7 groups based on political beliefs: progressive activists, traditional liberals, passive liberals, politically disengaged, moderates, traditional conservatives and devoted conservatives.The progressive activists, who made up 8% of the people surveyed were the only group who disagreed that political correctness was a problem with 30% saying yes. Every other group overwhelmingly said it was a problem.
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Who are the progressive activists?
 
New study out by More In Common, one of the charities set up in memory of murdered MP Jo Cox called Hidden Tribes: A Study of America's Polarized Landscape.

It's all about discovering attitudes and opinions on various topics for different groups within American society. Key to this thread there is a section on political correctness.

A majority of people in every age group that was asked agreed that political correctness was a problem. 24-29 year olds thought it was less of a problem than other age groups but 74% still said it was.
DpJ240-WkAIruzL.jpg

People in every racial group said it was a problem. Native Americans really think it's a problem:
DpJ3F4bXgAEwqHQ.jpg

People at every level of education agreed that it was a problem:
DpJ3TdnWkAAAx48.jpg

The study split people into 7 groups based on political beliefs: progressive activists, traditional liberals, passive liberals, politically disengaged, moderates, traditional conservatives and devoted conservatives.The progressive activists, who made up 8% of the people surveyed were the only group who disagreed that political correctness was a problem with 30% saying yes. Every other group overwhelmingly said it was a problem.
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Who are the progressive activists?


but here this seems like a problem with their methodology

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In a way it might be a problem if you wanted to argue that their categories are not well defined or that any categories they attempted to make might create blurry (for want of a better word) results between the categories when it came to those groups.

Bottom line, however you want to shake it is that an overwhelming majority of people think it is a problem even if you think the group boundaries/distinctions are poor.
 
In a way it might be a problem if you wanted to argue that their categories are not well defined or that any categories they attempted to make might create blurry (for want of a better word) results between the categories when it came to those groups.

Bottom line, however you want to shake it is that an overwhelming majority of people think it is a problem even if you think the group boundaries/distinctions are poor.

thats a fair conclusion but yes i would argue their categories exist to reach the conclusions they want to reach
 
Looking at the bar charts those categories do look like they fall far too neatly.

I mean it looks like a pretty decent study on the face of it and a good sample size, but I have to wonder where those 900 or so crazies came from. You wouldn't have gotten more predictable answers if you'd canvassed every gender studies professor in America. You'd expect that group to be majority wealthy, suburban and white, but not to that extent.
 

Well that's good to hear. Looks like everyone's been caught on the hop here. People complaining about their decision to ban clapping, as well as people defending their right to ban clapping. Turns out neither argument needed to be made.

Here's another one for this thread.

The police have issued a verbal warning to someone for using the wrong pronoun. Fecking hell. Seems like a ludicrous waste of finite resources.

A couple of caveats:

1. I know Graham Linehan is a bit of a tit, who is constantly involved in silly Twitter spats.
2. I know that deliberately calling someone by the wrong pronoun is a nasty thing to do.

Still, though, wtf?
 
1. I know Graham Linehan is a bit of a tit, who is constantly involved in silly Twitter spats.

Yup. Shouldn't happen to anyone, but if it had to, it's good it happened to him.
 
Well that's good to hear. Looks like everyone's been caught on the hop here. People complaining about their decision to ban clapping, as well as people defending their right to ban clapping. Turns out neither argument needed to be made.

Here's another one for this thread.

The police have issued a verbal warning to someone for using the wrong pronoun. Fecking hell. Seems like a ludicrous waste of finite resources.

A couple of caveats:

1. I know Graham Linehan is a bit of a tit, who is constantly involved in silly Twitter spats.
2. I know that deliberately calling someone by the wrong pronoun is a nasty thing to do.

Still, though, wtf?

As far as I'm aware, the story goes like this right? Linehan got in a twitter spat with a woman and decided that he is the arbiter of whether someone is properly trans or not. They both doxxed each other (BBC and the guardian conveniently leave out the fact that he was accused of releasing details of her companies and addresses as well as name and phot), she called the police and they told him to stop being a weapon and knock it off, but it went no further than that.

Is there really much wrong with that?
 
As far as I'm aware, the story goes like this right? Linehan got in a twitter spat with a woman and decided that he is the arbiter of whether someone is properly trans or not. They both doxxed each other (BBC and the guardian conveniently leave out the fact that he was accused of releasing details of her companies and addresses as well as name and phot), she called the police and they told him to stop being a weapon and knock it off, but it went no further than that.

Is there really much wrong with that?

Was that the offence? If so, did she get a warning too?
 
Well that's good to hear. Looks like everyone's been caught on the hop here. People complaining about their decision to ban clapping, as well as people defending their right to ban clapping. Turns out neither argument needed to be made.

Here's another one for this thread.

The police have issued a verbal warning to someone for using the wrong pronoun. Fecking hell. Seems like a ludicrous waste of finite resources.

A couple of caveats:

1. I know Graham Linehan is a bit of a tit, who is constantly involved in silly Twitter spats.
2. I know that deliberately calling someone by the wrong pronoun is a nasty thing to do.

Still, though, wtf?
He's also a massive transphobe, so I'm all for him getting the police on his door for being a cnut to trans people.