He's the guy that loosens the wheel nuts on the car when the team are trying to make it ready to drive because he doesn't like the driver, or the team - or cars.
Then blames the team for neglecting the wheel nuts.
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Then blames the team for neglecting the wheel nuts.
It would be justified mainly in terms of there now being much greater clarity on what the options are and the cost of those options (the initial referendum made no attempt to define leave and therefore it was subject to a myriad of interpretations, many of the cake and eat it variety). On a more technical level, we know Leave broke the funding rules and, combined with evidence of Russian interference, it could be argued that the first referendum was invalid anyway. Thirdly, demographic changes in light of the big generational split in voting - the “will of the people” is becoming increasingly the will of dead people with every month that passes.
The EU would support a second referendum. They want us to stay, just not at the price of tearing up their rulebook.
Because you'll be seen as a wum or worse if you can't be bothered to substantiate your claims.
You are having a mare in this thread so far.
If the cap fits.
Just search for brexit lies.
I have and there are numerous; one being the Brexit Emergency Budget.
Really. I was enjoying all the idiotic responses so please don't stop.
Never had such fun.
Anymore?
On the wind up as expected
Thanks for the answers chaps.
Have the EU vocalized that they want a second referendum? Again, I know this is such a vague question and I don’t know the ins and outs but wouldn’t most EU nations stand to make a profit off of brexit with import/export type stuff?
With foresight it should have been easy to come to that conclusion. Cameron put forward a binary choice and it was backed by most MPS (except Ken Clarke and few other Europhiles) to Leave the EU or Remain in the EU, not leave with some deal, or remain half in and half out, that was not the choice. It was binary because lo and behold everyone in the political and media establishment in the UK expected a Remain verdict.
The EU said from day one, no negotiations about trade, so why Mrs May jumped on the express to Brussels and immediately gave away on all points, is anyone's guess?
The choice was always binary, Remain in the EU as we are, or Leave the EU completely, this is the only realistic two options that persists. Politicians now have to step up to the mark and make the decision, in theory at least, each MP regardless of their own views/shade of political opinion should vote with the result from their constituency at the referendum. That way they keep faith with the public and British Politics doesn't go down the toilet.
On the wind up as expected
No. The British electorate was lied to by both sides. Fact.
If you disagree that is up to you.
You don't appear to be able to differentiate between facts and predictions.
Fox claiming he'd have 40 trade deals ready is not a lie but a bollox prediction, the same as Osborne.
At least you tried.
The EU has been careful not to be seen to be interfering in this British political impasse so they have not expressed any view on the question of a referendum as far as I know.
But many EU leaders have categorically said they would prefer the UK to stay. You are right that some of the EU 27 would derive some benefits if the UK were to leave (in fact some have already been picking up business in the last two year) but, ultimately I believe they recognise that the loss of one of the big 3 is a major blow to the European project (however awkward we were at times). Merkel in fact called Brexit a “tragedy”.
I actually dont think O'Brien came across very well in that interview. I completely understand why he adopted the attitude he did but I wish he had tried to be a bit more constructive.
Good news that come with Brexit:
- Portugal airports are considering to hire a lot of people for visa checking. A Visa in Portugal costs 60 to 95€ and local authorities expect to make about 20M€ in Visas fees during a year if UK tourist flux remians the same.
You guys are going to pay more for a Visa than for a Ryanair flight when travelling to Algarve
- Portugal airports are considering to hire a lot of people for visa checking. A Visa in Portugal costs 60 to 95€ and local authorities expect to make about 20M€ in Visas fees during a year if UK tourist flux remians the same.
You guys are going to pay more for a Visa than for a Ryanair flight when travelling to Algarve
Yeah, well, the joke's on you cause we'll just go to Cornwall instead and sit on the beaches in the rain eating £5 ice creams thinking about how bloody great it is to be back in control.Good news that come with Brexit:
- Portugal airports are considering to hire a lot of people for visa checking. A Visa in Portugal costs 60 to 95€ and local authorities expect to make about 20M€ in Visas fees during a year if UK tourist flux remians the same.
You guys are going to pay more for a Visa than for a Ryanair flight when travelling to Algarve
Good news that come with Brexit:
- Portugal airports are considering to hire a lot of people for visa checking. A Visa in Portugal costs 60 to 95€ and local authorities expect to make about 20M€ in Visas fees during a year if UK tourist flux remians the same.
You guys are going to pay more for a Visa than for a Ryanair flight when travelling to Algarve
Why would anyone want to go to Portugal when Spain is better for everything?
It'll be a knife in the heart of one of your main industries.Good news that come with Brexit:
- Portugal airports are considering to hire a lot of people for visa checking. A Visa in Portugal costs 60 to 95€ and local authorities expect to make about 20M€ in Visas fees during a year if UK tourist flux remians the same.
You guys are going to pay more for a Visa than for a Ryanair flight when travelling to Algarve
I can imagine that happening tooAll the EU destinations should do the same thing, set a standard fee so that Spain for example isn’t priority over Portugal
Good news that come with Brexit:
- Portugal airports are considering to hire a lot of people for visa checking. A Visa in Portugal costs 60 to 95€ and local authorities expect to make about 20M€ in Visas fees during a year if UK tourist flux remians the same.
You guys are going to pay more for a Visa than for a Ryanair flight when travelling to Algarve
As funny as that is people will just go elsewhere. It won't remain the same.
Not really. Travel agencies will take care of that. It will be included in the packages they sell. I would say 90% of UK traveller buy their vactions at travel resellers (AKA travel agencies) rather than booking plane tickets and book the lodging themselves.
Depends the part of Spain and the part of Portugal.
No they wont. They buy a package on a travel agency, and that package will include visa costs. They will keep coming for Algarve.
I used to prefer Portugal for golfing but it’s too popular now and too many of the stewards tell you to hurry up because the courses all try and get as many tee times as possible. For that reason alone I hope Portugal don’t profit from brexit.
It was a small joke. The same will happen to me when I want to visit your beatiful countries, I will need to pay the UK Visa. And I'm almost sure the UK tourists will get a reduced Visa cost, like happens to russians and chinese tourist ATM.
Yep, we could veto long term budgets, but annual budgets can be passed with a qualified majority.
If we were playing hardball with the EU the approach now would be:
1. Formally revoke A50
2. State publicly that we consider May’s deal to be the opening Brexit offer and need for renegotiation
3. The EU will state that the deal cannot be renogtiated, and certainly not without A50 being triggered
4. We generally cause mayhem inside the EU, vetoing budgets and such, until they agree to renegotiate the deal, ahead of us retriggering A50 without the 2 year no-deal deadline gun to our head.
It would probably all end up back at the ECJ, who would side with the rest of the EU that Britain is behaving unlawfully. Or the rest of the EU would gang up to pass legislation that screws Britain, for example in the financial sector.
possibly - might force him to back a 2nd ref though to ensure he wins?
The only people who'll profit on Brexit is politician's bank accounts, that's for sure. The guy who has a small restaurant business at Albufeira will probably loose more.
So a potential £300 increase for a family of 4 on their holiday won't have any affect on demand?
Out of pure curiosity, I would like to see that one. You will never get a trade deal or any sort of deal though simply because you'll be considered as highly untrustworthy which is key; the interesting part is how the 27 would wiggle out of it.
Well said. These people who are pissed at Corbyn for not pressing the magical stop Brexit button they've invented in their heads are being just as awful as the "Just get on with it" lot.
They will reduce their margin profit a bit to accomodate those extra costs, because they know Algarve sells a lot. The price will not rise that much.
And besides, people already have an emotional connection with some specific places for their vacations. it's a human thing.
In that order, same thing would happen to London. London tourism income is already a great part of the local economy and people will still travel to London, despite having to pay Visas.
I will still return there to revisit the Yorkshire, which is my favourite place in UK.
Sounds like a David “SAS” Davis wargaming fantasy.
So the immigration authorities in Portugal will benefit at the expense of the tour operators and hotel owners in Portugal.
Un oeuf is un oeuf.
It's not sure that they will benefit, there is an administrative and human resources cost to take into account.