He is obviously a brilliant coach. I personally think Ole is making sensible decisions and despite having deficiencies he could end up being the best fit for us but name a team that Brendan has not improved.
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He is obviously a brilliant coach. I personally think Ole is making sensible decisions and despite having deficiencies he could end up being the best fit for us but name a team that Brendan has not improved.
Liverpool had 1 top class player at the time and Leicester should be a mile away from the top for. How much does he have to make a team over perform?
Tevez?? Yes of course Bruno. However my point is Maguire as a big money signing for $80 m should be gold dust not even a gamble. Rogers has let’s say always had to trade in the lower end of the market. He makes players better which is something Ole doesn’t do. Would be interesting to see there profit/ loss in the transfer market. Also if we only employ people who have won a league title, there would be very slim pickings. Rogers won the league in Scotland which granted is lesser but to do I think 6/7 in a row is some what good
You won’t hold on to him for long, at some point he will want to do better.
Rodgers is a better coach than Solskjaer there's no PHD / Doctorate degree needed to perceive such a basic assessment.
The way things are going in terms of Ole's development he's still lacking in all the fundamentals a good coach exceeds in. This will catch us up because 1. The league is full of very good coaches and 2. The players cannot do it on their own.
Everyone gave Ole praise for Rashford's / Greenwood's form last season then Ole deserves criticism for their lackluster form heading into this campaign along with Martial's inconsistencies. The fact we are relying on one player to have any sustainability in winning games is ridiculous. Whenever you hear that a team is make or break regarding one individual it usually is an earmark of woeful team cohesion influenced by management. Rodgers is getting the best out of what I'd say is above average players. He's managed to raise his players game something the likes of Klopp / SAF have been very proficient in.
I'm not saying Ole should be sacked but I don't see how the club has anything to build from regarding the transition from top 4 to contending for the league in the immediate future. We have a manager who one week concedes we are out of a title race than a few days later says we aren't settling for second. Fans need to call Ole out on his nonsense from time to time, he's getting far to much of an easy ride with the areas that he's deserved scrutiny for.
The way things are going in terms of Ole's development he's still lacking in all the fundamentals a good coach exceeds in. This will catch us up because 1. The league is full of very good coaches and 2. The players cannot do it on their own.
Everyone gave Ole praise for Rashford's / Greenwood's form last season then Ole deserves criticism for their lackluster form heading into this campaign along with Martial's inconsistencies. The fact we are relying on one player to have any sustainability in winning games is ridiculous. Whenever you hear that a team is make or break regarding one individual it usually is an earmark of woeful team cohesion influenced by management. Rodgers is getting the best out of what I'd say is above average players. He's managed to raise his players game something the likes of Klopp / SAF have been very proficient in.
I'm not saying Ole should be sacked but I don't see how the club has anything to build from regarding the transition from top 4 to contending for the league in the immediate future. We have a manager who one week concedes we are out of a title race than a few days later says we aren't settling for second. Fans need to call Ole out on his nonsense from time to time, he's getting far to much of an easy ride with the areas that he's deserved scrutiny for.
Why people think this is not Brendan Rodgers fault is confusing.
His transfers were diabolical at Liverpool.
Utter trash.
| Fabio Borini | Roma | £10,400,000 | 13 July 2012 |
| Joe Allen | Swansea City | £15,000,000 | 10 August 2012 |
| Oussama Assaidi | Heerenveen | £3,000,000 | 17 August 2012 |
| Nuri Sahin | Real Madrid | On Loan | 25 August 2012 |
| Samed Yesil | Bayer Leverkusen | £1,000,000 | 30 August 2012 |
| Daniel Sturridge | Chelsea | £12,000,000 | 2 January 2013 |
| Philippe Coutinho | Inter Milan | £8,500,000 | 30 January 2013 |
| Luis Alberto | Sevilla | £6,800,000 | 22 June 2013 |
| Iago Aspas | Celta Vigo | £7,000,000 | 23 June 2013 |
| Simon Mignolet | Sunderland | £9,000,000 | 25 June 2013 |
| Kolo Touré | Free Transfer | Free | 2 July 2013 |
| Aly Cissokho | Valencia | On Loan | 20 August 2013 |
| Mamadou Sakho | Paris St Germain | £15,000,000 | 2 September 2013 |
| Tiago Ilori | Sporting Lisbon | £3,500,000 * | 2 September 2013 |
| Victor Moses | Chelsea | On Loan | 2 September 2013 |
| Rickie Lambert | Southampton | £4,500,000 | 2 June 2014 |
| Adam Lallana | Southampton | £25,000,000 * | 1 July 2014 |
| Emre Can | Bayer Leverkusen | £9,750,000 | 3 July 2014 |
| Kevin Stewart | Free Transfer | Free | 3 July 2014 |
| Lazar Markovic | Benfica | £19,800,000 | 15 July 2014 |
| Dejan Lovren | Southampton | £20,000,000 * | 27 July 2014 |
| Divock Origi | Lille | £9,800,000 * | 29 July 2014 |
| Javier Manquillo | Atletico Madrid | On Loan | 6 August 2014 |
| Alberto Moreno | Sevilla | £12,000,000 * | 16 August 2014 |
| Mario Balotelli | AC Milan | £16,000,000 | 25 August 2014 |
| Joe Gomez | Charlton Athletic | £6,000,000 * | 20 June 2015 |
| Adam Bogdan | Free Transfer | Free | 1 July 2015 |
| Danny Ings | Free Transfer | £8,000,000 * | 1 July 2015 |
| James Milner | Free Transfer | Free | 1 July 2015 |
| Nathaniel Clyne | Southampton | £12,500,000 | 1 July 2015 |
| Roberto Firmino | TSG 1899 Hoffenheim | £29,000,000 * | 6 July 2015 |
| Christian Benteke | Aston Villa | £32,500,000 | 22 July 2015 |
| Allan Rodrigues de Souza | Internacional | £500,000 | 2 |
Around £91 million overall spend. From where they were and to have them challenging not bad. However that was then, this is now. Better than then. No doubt a top coach, like has been stated, Sir Matt has affiliation to bin dippers. If we never had him, god only knows what our history would be
That is nonsense... Rodgers has been with two unfancied Premier League teams and got them challenging against all odds. By all rights, Leicester should be 6th at best. Without doubt, Rodgers has the potential to win the league and probably the most drive to do so.
Again look at what he did in Scotland. He didn't just win a couple of trophies, he won EVERYTHING for years. And look at Celtic now... Not actually that easy eh!
I could not agree more and cannot understand the small-minded approach that he 'has not won the league' or 'he worked for Liverpool'. These are irrelevant when you look at the bigger picture. If we waited for 'someone who had won the league', we would have a choice of Pep (excellent but not going to happen), Klopp (not convinced about him long term), Jose (ahem).
Rodgers appears to have the biggest growth potential, desire, skill and best attitude for us. It is so glaringly obvious he is our best option, but sadly most fans somehow cannot see it.
Again, I have not seen any poster name a candidate that ticks as many boxes as Rodgers....
Give me Rodgers over Poch any day of the week.
Not sure why PSG didn't go for him
"Neymar est un bel être humain. Grand caractère, merveilleux technicien."
Celtic had won the league five times in a row when he joined them, so they weren't exactly underdogs. He did a great job there and has at Leicester too- I've actually warmed to him and his teams play good football. I'm just saying it's no banker that he would be successful at OT, as two Champions League winning managers who've won way more than he has have shown.
Now Rodgers has decided to start beating Liverpool, what's not to like? Yes he's a plonker, but he failed to win Liverpool the title, that's another positive.
It'll never happen, I'm not really suggesting he takes over from Ole, but to still be turning your nose up at him is strange really, and I'm not sure how much of it is actually based on football it self.
It'll never happen, I'm not really suggesting he takes over from Ole, but to still be turning your nose up at him is strange really, and I'm not sure how much of it is actually based on football it self.
If you compare the career trajectory of our “two Championship League winning managers” with Rogers you’d have to admit he looks like a better prospect than either of them did at the time we hired them (a trajectory that has continued with their careers after United)
Yeah, you'd obviously take his football over LVG's any day. I think my argument had gotten stuck in a furrow, much like our current team.
Still ridiculously underrated on here. I think he made some poor choices at Liverpool, but let's not forget he was like 39 when he took the gig. I think he's learned a-lot since then and has toned down the gobshite philosopher persona.
He needed to massively improve how he organises a team defensively and for me, he's done that. They are better than us in that department this season in 6th and are 4th for goals scored.
No idea why his transfers at Liverpool are being brought up again? He signed some absolute shite but made some good buys in Clyne, Firmino, Coutinho, Gomez, Lallana, Sturridge and Milner. Ings could have been good too if not for the injuries and Allen and Can were ok for them. Of course there were the horror shows like Benteke, Markovic and Mignolet. His signings at Leicester have generally been very good too.
He's clearly a talented manager and I think he'll get a chance at another big club after Leicester. The stauch 'Ole in' crowd calling him 'average' while lauding Ole are showing a staggering lack of self awareness.
He needed to massively improve how he organises a team defensively and for me, he's done that. They are better than us in that department this season in 6th and are 4th for goals scored.
No idea why his transfers at Liverpool are being brought up again? He signed some absolute shite but made some good buys in Clyne, Firmino, Coutinho, Gomez, Lallana, Sturridge and Milner. Ings could have been good too if not for the injuries and Allen and Can were ok for them. Of course there were the horror shows like Benteke, Markovic and Mignolet. His signings at Leicester have generally been very good too.
He's clearly a talented manager and I think he'll get a chance at another big club after Leicester. The stauch 'Ole in' crowd calling him 'average' while lauding Ole are showing a staggering lack of self awareness.
Not sure why it would never happen. Rodgers would jump at the chance to join us; he has already shown he won't hesitate by leaving Celtic midseason to join Leicester.
We are far from being securely in the top four, so Solskjaer's sacking is still a very real possibility. I doubt we would dismiss Rodgers just because he managed Liverpool. In fact, this summer could be a prime time to get him.
Have to agree with the bolded, though. People are still bringing up him not winning the league with Liverpool, but Suarez's ridiculous form provided such a hugely unexpected boost. They finished sixth the season before.
Squad in title challenge season (Bolded were Rodger's additions):
Mignolet
Johnson
Skrtel
Agger
Lucas
Gerrard
Henderson
Coutinho
Sterling
Suarez
Sturridge
People talk about his signings, but they weren't all that bad:
Coutinho (sold for £130m)
Sturridge (good player back then)
Emre Can is a good player
Lovren would have been a decent squad player (probably wished they had kept him this season)
Firmino (played a major part in their success)
Milner (good squad player)
Ings (Very good striker - injuries were unfortunate)
He also brought through Sterling (sold for £57m).
It actually isn't that bad.
Also, remember they lost Suarez almost straight after his best season and Sterling the season after that. Sturridge became a crock. Gerrard was almost done. It wasn't all that surprising their position came crashing back down afterwards.
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Why should they be a mile away from top four? Their strongest 11 gives anyone a game and is very strong. They might not get top four because of lack of squad depth but to say they should be a mile away from top four is underestimating them.
Yes but no-one is ever a banker at any club. Mourinho and Van Gaal were already past it and cannot be compared with Rodgers. He was even excellent way back at Swansea. It is an easy an lazy argument to say that Celtic had won previously... yes they had but look more closely at what he did there. Also he has no right having Leicester so high up the table (and Liverpool a few years ago, who also had no right almost winning with their team).
His premier league experience, drive, commitment and track record of winning trophies all mean he is by far the best candidate for our club. Also he is on an 'upwards trajectory', unlike most managers we seem to appoint.
Ancelotti is the only other manager I’d consider. He would have us more defensively organized but would still have us scoring goals.
He's doing a great job at Leicester, who were more or less a top six team when he took over, as I've said, but he is also benefiting from the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal in transition, Spurs fecking up and Liverpool have a dip. I do likely still harbour some prejudices about his Liverpool past and how they fecked that season up, plus some of the more clownish aspects of his at times David Brent-like persona.
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I was very tired, I meant Cavani!Some players have clearly improved under Ole, eg Shaw, McTominay and Greenwood. I'm sure haters and will say that's in spite of Ole or cos they're young, while Ole backers will give him some credit. Who knows.
It also depends on what you class as a 'proven premier league manager'. He has massive overachievement and a huge choke on his CV. Moyes also had overachievement on his too.
They weren't a top six side when he took over ,they more like mid table. They finished 12th and 9th in the seasons before he took over. Since then they finished 9th(he took over end of Feb that season),5th and now are 3rd level on points with us which is a clear inarguable improvement since he's been in charge. That sort of improvement is impressive enough to make yu think that he can make that next step up.
I personally think that you rate their first 11 as a lot better than it actually is due to Rodgers making them play a lot better than the sum of their parts. Something he often has done.
Everton have a better first 11 and a very good manager for example. Spurs also.
One of my least favorite people in football. he is so punch able it is untrue...... Yet if I was Woodward I would go all out to get him.
I really do think he is a fantastic coach.
I really do think he is a fantastic coach.
We definitely need to get him in after Ole I think. Makes so much sense.
He’s under contract. The last 3 we brought in were “available”
1 Kasper
2 Ricardo
3 Soyuncu/Evans
4 Fofana
5 Castagne/Justin
6 Ndidi
7 Albrighton
8 Tielemans/Praet
9 Barnes
10 Maddison
11 Vardy
Out of interest which Everton players do you rate better over ours?
I do have to agree, but Ancelotti has always underperformed domestically. But yes I agree. For me Rodgers has no flaws in terms of his suitability.
Rodgers is the real deal. He came mightily close with Liverpool (who did not have any right to be close to winning the league at that stage) and has overperformed everywhere. He doesn't really have a David Brent-like persona at all, certainly not now. It is very small minded to overlook such a talented manager for these things. He is right under our noses, yet most fans can't see it because of snobbery.
I have yet to hear a valid suggestion of a better candidate than Rodgers based on all aspects.
Rodgers is a decent coach but he will be a disastrous of an appointment. Never convinced he can handle the pressure of managing a top club and for all his good work the man bottles big games. I know injuries and all but the way his side crumbled last season was not good. Even his SF knock out against Villa last season in League cup was shocking. Also, his side rarely plays some dominating football like some think. Whenever he is paired with a big side, his sides play will an inferiority complex.
I just don't think he will be the man to take us forward. If we hire him, I will back him and support him but I will always have my doubts and would stay away from him.
I just don't think he will be the man to take us forward. If we hire him, I will back him and support him but I will always have my doubts and would stay away from him.
I think most fans of the clubs in the top ten down to Arsenal would fancy their one to eleven against Leicester’s rightly or wrongly. I’d have Leicester’s toward the bottom end of that group. Rodgers has done a brilliant job, as he has everywhere since taking over at Swansea
We had 43 chances against Villa over the 2 legs, you cannot blame Rodgers for that , I was at both games, we had no luck.
As for dominating games, we have beaten Liverpool, Man City , Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal this season, you play to your strengths , it’s not really wise to go toe to toe with Man City and Liverpool, as bad as Liverpool have been they’re still a very good side.
Against Man City, I thought we was excellent, defended deep and they struggled to break us down, we then hit them on the counter.
Spurs and Chelsea we was the better side, against Man Utd we had more of the ball, you had the better chances.
You don’t have to win games by being dominant, we won the league with very little possession.
He is a good coach no doubt. I am surprised by the hate he gets for managing Liverpool
Sir Matt was at Liverpool too.
Sir Matt was at Liverpool too.
If we want to be a true force again we need someone better, in my opinion.
I have no idea who that is, but I don't think Rodgers will reach the levels Klopp and Pep have.
I have no idea who that is, but I don't think Rodgers will reach the levels Klopp and Pep have.
Hes a good coach and i would bet if he had taken over when Ole did being allowed to buy his own players like Ole, we would be better overall as a team and maybe would have won a cup at least. 3 semis we lost in last year and Rodgers is being called a bottle job. 
It’s partly Liverpool and largely because he’s a manager who’s success rate is on par with Ole with less spend and a less fancied club. A lot of the Ole fanboys are insecure about this. This is why they bump this thread whenever Leicester lose a game and start slagging him off. See the same for Nagelsman, Hassenhutl, basically any manager capable of playing good football with smaller budget and smaller club.
I'm still amazed grown up people use a term fanboy.
It's from Pochettino, Rose and Tuchel to Rodgers just cause he's doing a good job at Leicester. I remember when even a guy from Bournemouth was mentioned.
It's from Pochettino, Rose and Tuchel to Rodgers just cause he's doing a good job at Leicester. I remember when even a guy from Bournemouth was mentioned.