Too easy to reply on this. Too easy....but i will not.Aww look how hurt this guy is over other managers.
Very cute.
How come people didnt come out when he lost against the minor French team?
"Its okay, everyone loses".
They beat a Koeman's Barcelona - who is an ex everton manager
"This is the next Klopp or Pep"
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I'm loving how much our manager is making some fans uncomfortableanother top 4 result this season
Bloody ell that’s a depressing post.
Another top 4 trophy.
Woo hoo will equal Pochettino hopefully by the end of this season.
Ole is improving bit by bit for such a young manager to be amongst the Klopps and Peps of world football so soon.
We're talking about a manager who was backed by Levy, signed some big signings and failed miserably.
From his time at Spurs, he has failed to win a single trophy with that squad, filled with top quality talents.
If he is so bloody good like Klopp was at Dortmund, why the feck he didn't win a single trophy?
Enlighten me.
From his time at Spurs, he has failed to win a single trophy with that squad, filled with top quality talents.
If he is so bloody good like Klopp was at Dortmund, why the feck he didn't win a single trophy?
Enlighten me.
Ole doesn't belong in the same sentence as Pochettino, but no point to bring this up because he beat a genuinely hopeless Barca.
Feck Messi vs Ronaldo, Ole vs Poch is where it's at
Why? Because Poch won UCL 2nd place trophy?
He wasn't backed by Levy at all. He had two full windows where they didn't sign a SINGLE player at precisely the time they needed to push on. How is that being backed? Let's not rewrite history here.
Good wumming, guys.
Poor Ole, such a young manager with just 15 years behind him as a coach. It's a shame people are bashing Ole, we should give him at least 500m more and a couple of years to see if he can improve and compare with the likes of Pep and Klopp. We don't have enough evidence to think that he can't challenge those guys
He had a pretty much completed team in those years. Only an absolute superstar would have improved it but spurs will never be able to sign players like that.
He was backed in his final season, was absolutely useless and got sacked for it.
Klopp or Pep would have won the title with that prime spurs team.
Oh yeah that squad in his final season was so good it’s only about to get it’s second manager in 1.5 years fired
59 points last year, then bolstered in the Summer by Jose and currently on course for... you guessed it, 59 points this season.
Levi did a dog shit job in those last years, and no Poch or Mourinho is solving that.
Nah, Spurs were never that good. The only team to have won the PL and have that (or lower) amount of quality was Leicester and that was as one off. Their quality was never on par with any champion team. People overrate them just due to to Kane and Son. And Son himself is a tad overrated.
Don't bother with them, these are the same guys who think United doesn't spend enough and Ole hasn't been backed.
I mean, surely, you should love our manager making everyone comfortable? That he isn't, is hardly a reason to rejoice.Yes that's what he was doing - pitching him up against Ole. I wasnt the first to bring him up. Funny how when things become irritating people go completely to two opposite sides.
Was so tiresome aswell.
I'm loving how much our manager is making some fans uncomfortable
Koeman's Barcelona
Let me guess he is better than Ole too?
He was given Ndombele and Le Celso in one window which was big deal but as you say it came off the back of multiple summers of nothing.That takes its toll on everyone. Pochettino did incredibly to maintain Spurs' level considering the lack of backing. It's ironic that the wheels came off after a summer of surprising inflows of players, but I think it was more of an accumulation of problems of prior years.
fecking state of this
untruths on both sides, purely to know it all on the Internet. Black or white only on this thread... and most others
untruths on both sides, purely to know it all on the Internet. Black or white only on this thread... and most others
The squad was never that good, wasn't really backed by Levy if you going by netspend and he was never as good as Klopp ayway.
Some people cant see that Ole is here to bring the United DNA back - that's because partly some people dont care about it at all.
Success will come from alot of managers every 3 years (and I dknt think Ole will be a successful manager at United) but for me Ole rebuilding the club structure from u23's to clearing the deadwood, getting accustomed to multiple tactics every 2 games as seen last season, forcing the team to play high energy football, generally attacking football, dont give up attitude with last minute goals etc - I'm very protective of Ole because I dont think we will ever get this chance again.
A manager who comes here to win a trophy or 2 isnt as hard as it seems to find in my opinion (Chelsea change their manager every so often and get successful once every 5 years) - but having a manager that understands the United DNA and history is not as easy to find.
Il give Ole an extra year if he gets top 4 this year to finish his 3 year course of helping reshape United from the ground up. By that time we should have improved to the moment that we need a title winning manager and Ole then can go. What the title winning manager will be left with is players of a United DNA rather than the previous managers DNA like we saw when Mourinho was taking over Van Gaals players. The title manager can add more specific players to their squad that fits their tactics and we should be able to really go for it.
I'm super protective of Ole not because of his ability to win trophies but his ability to understand what United is.
Are you even a United fan.
Ferguson took 6 years to win his first league title with us, then, when we needed a rebuild in the mid 2000's , it took him 4 years to win the title back and 5 seasons to complete the build.
Klopp took 5 years at Liverpool to deliver the title. He never finished above 4th in any of his first 3 seasons. Ole has already bettered his start with a 3rd place finish in his 2nd season.
When Ole joined us we were a shambles. He's now steadied the ship and with another good transfer window will have us pushing for top honours.
Grow up.
Oh yeah that squad in his final season was so good it’s only about to get it’s second manager in 1.5 years fired
59 points last year, then bolstered in the Summer by Jose and currently on course for... you guessed it, 59 points this season.
Levi did a dog shit job in those last years, and no Poch or Mourinho is solving that.
even including Jose in the discussion who's been sacked within 3 seasons of almost every club he's managed for the last 10 yearsYou sound like a complete religious nut job.
True ....and recieved over £50m in severance payments. Great work if you can get it
Yes the man who in those 3 previous jobs won La Liga, the Premier League, Europa League, a League Cup and took United to what is still their highest finish and points total since Ferguson.
Mourinho is an utter pleb and it was a complete catastrophe by the end with his usual meltdown but let’s not make out he is some absolute turnip who can’t do anything with a football team.
This season is pure confirmation of just what a state Tottenham left that squad in by the end of Poch’s reign.
Pre-meltdown Mourinho can still normally get something out of a squad as proven in all of those previous jobs.
But by all means if you lot want to live in your fantasy world where Levy and the Spurs board left Poch with a great squad for that final season, so be it. Two 59 point seasons says something a lil different.
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I respect that fact. That you like Ole and that you think he is best for the job. Your opinion and you are maybe right and maybe not. I think he is not good. That is it. Nothing (well, almost nothing) is black and white in football.
But all that things about DNA regarding players and manager i find ridiculous. What does exactly that mean? Do City, Liverpool, Bayern, Real players or any players in general have DNA of their clubs? Do managers in other clubs have that? Did Klopp or Pep understand the club's DNA when they came there? Did Conte and Jose understand Chelsea? Ranieri Leicester? And so on (basically you can put any name there).
Why are James, Cavani, AWB or Maguire more special than players who previous managers bought?
Players are mercenaries. And i am saying that without having bad thoughts about them. Football is their job and they play for whoever give them salary.
Many of fans in their rage will use words "plastic" and "mercenary" for City and their players. But on the pitch i see far more mental strength and better attitude from them than from our players. How is that then?
Lloris
Walker - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Rose
Wanyama - Dembele
Eriksen
Lamela - Kane - Son
Tripper - Dier - Davies - Sissoko - Alli
National team stars in almost every position.
I think the likes of Klopp and Pep would have delivered a title with that squad. Pochettino even finished only 3rd one season and never delivered a single trophy.
I think we have a better first-team than that currently.
The midfield 3 in particular is distinctly average when compared with:
Fred Pogba
Fernandes
Kane is better than anything in our attack but 2016-17 Son? He’s slightly overrated now, back then he was a lesser player and Lamela is crap.
Shaw’s better than Rose.
Their CB pairing is definitely the best part of that side though.
you certainly don’t look at that side on paper and think “wow that must’ve won some trophies.”
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Where did you find these stats ffs? There are so many stats wrong in your post.
I like to use the arguement that Poch has won nothing. But that CL run was a fair showing. They had a pretty tough group with Barca, Inter, PSV. Then went on to beat Dortmund, Man City and Ajax. Then were screwed from early on in the Liverpool game. He does deserve credit for that run.
I don't want him as manager, I like the look of Nagelsman but in hindsight I've perhaps been too quick to write Poch off, but last night's result isn't one to claim he's the Messiah about.
I don't want him as manager, I like the look of Nagelsman but in hindsight I've perhaps been too quick to write Poch off, but last night's result isn't one to claim he's the Messiah about.
I think you are being a little harsh there, how is it "average", by todays terms yes but not back when they were a team. Prime Eriksen and Dembele were awesome and Wanyama was quality till injuries ruined him.
Dembele was always incredibly overrated because he was a nice dribbler, but always had injuries and way too many off games, Eriksen was good but was never in Fernandes class.
It was a good Spurs side for sure, certainly your best in the Premier League era , but surely even you don’t look at that side on paper and think “wow there is a side that must’ve won trophies”?
It would be nice if this forum gave Ole that same leeway. 3 managers sacked in 4 years prior to his appointment. Players signed under 4 different managers at the club, all with wildly different playing styles. The issue has always been the eagerness to hold up a manager who had achieved less than Ole had as a bastion of absolute football, in order to show how incompetent Ole is. Ole has proven he's a decent manager; that's beyond contestation. Thinking we can improve on him is fine, that doesn't mean every attempt needs to be made to discredit Ole. Which appears to be the only reason Poch is ever discussed here.Oh yeah that squad in his final season was so good it’s only about to get it’s second manager in 1.5 years fired
59 points last year, then bolstered in the Summer by Jose and currently on course for... you guessed it, 59 points this season.
Levi did a dog shit job in those last years, and no Poch or Mourinho is solving that.
He finished 3rd twice and 2nd once. And made it further in the CL than Spurs have ever been. Personally I think it's a decent/good team, but hardly a team where you are nailed on to win the title in the PL. Yes arguarbly he should have won the year Leicester did, but so should every other big club in the PL. Klopp might have delivered a Title but that's because he's arguably the best manager in the world. Him/or Pep. Personally I don't think Pep would be able to deliver a title at Spurs.
FFS wasn't backed?
Deluded. They decided to build a new stadium and Levy basically gave him a free ride without signings, understandable situation.
Then Ndombele happened....
Thing is, you look at that squad, it's mind blowing how the feck he doesn't win a trophy, even the shit ones.
Deluded. They decided to build a new stadium and Levy basically gave him a free ride without signings, understandable situation.
Then Ndombele happened....
Thing is, you look at that squad, it's mind blowing how the feck he doesn't win a trophy, even the shit ones.
The Carabao Cup is City's property so that is one no other team will win.
Enters a thread about Poch, crying Ole fans on defensive rants...backs out.
Even normally decent enough posters are at it, I’m in here defending Poch’s record because I think he’s a good manager and you get ivaldo above going on some bizarre Ole rant.
Depends on how much netspend you have before you are considered backed. When you compare his spend against the other big clubs, it's incredibly meagre. At the same time Spurs have less pulling power compared to the biggest english clubs. Klopp's netspend is a bit skewed by the fact they sold Coutinho for such huge a fee, but most his signings have delivered superbly.
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