Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

Random Task said:
Thanks.

So it turns out he may have been pulling a Rooney all along. I remember despising Rooney when he pulled that stunt. Having his agent spread rumours of a possible move to City or Chelsea. It was painful viewing. Then, seemingly out of the blue, he signed a new contract and I didn't know what to think. Shortly ater that, the truth came out that he simply wanted to the club to show some ambition in the transfer market. It worked, too. He became somewhat of a hero after that.

I hope Pogba is doing the same thing. Because, seriously, feck the Glazers.
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Did he?? All I ever see here is people vilifying him for that renewal.

It’s the number one thing people list as to why they ‘don’t class him as a United legend.’
Which is a truly shocking opinion to hold as he is a legend here in every sense of the word.
 
charlenefan said:
I think the likes of Lingard, Andreas and Dalot hold the cards to more signings more than Pogba. We still need another CM regardless of whether Pogba stays
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Its not so much that, more that the focus of the club administrators will be consumed with trying to sort this out and they can famously only focus on one thing at a time. Once this kicked off last summer we were done until the deadline day
 
Gary_Walsh_Nou_Camp_Hell said:
Yeah I get your point, but hard to argue it's not in his best interest to leave on a free and collect a multi-million pound payment from his new club.
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from a player standpoint, it makes sense for him as he'll get a big signing bonus and also get his pay raise IF someone is willing to pay he bigger wages than he's getting now

from the clubs perspective you have to look at moving him on if he won't resign or send a message that if guys want to run down their contracts and aren't willing to move on, they'll get moved to the reserves.
 
Sultan said:
He is contracted to United until next June and fulfilled his obligations. If he wants a new challenge good luck and goodbye. I am being fair, bro.
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Your Varane comparison was in reply to Pogba flirting with Real in 2019 summer after his best season with us. Varane is not similar IMO. That was what I meant.
 
bosskeano said:
from a player standpoint, it makes sense for him as he'll get a big signing bonus and also get his pay raise IF someone is willing to pay he bigger wages than he's getting now

from the clubs perspective you have to look at moving him on if he won't resign or send a message that if guys want to run down their contracts and aren't willing to move on, they'll get moved to the reserves.
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If I read that ridiculous line one more time I'll combust. Or scream.
 
I predict that he’ll stay past the deadline. We will get off to a good start to the season and he’ll sign a new deal in September/October
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
Him and Bruno were knocked out of the Euros one day apart weren't they? Why was he given extra time anyway? I believe that is a valid criticism of the club to allow that as Bruno has been back a few days now at training.

And going off last season's exploits it's Bruno who needed the extended break not a player who turns up when he feels like it. It's Bruno who carried us to almost winning something. It certainly wasn't Pogba.
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What a weird thing to get in a twist about.
 
bosskeano said:
from a player standpoint, it makes sense for him as he'll get a big signing bonus and also get his pay raise IF someone is willing to pay he bigger wages than he's getting now

from the clubs perspective you have to look at moving him on if he won't resign or send a message that if guys want to run down their contracts and aren't willing to move on, they'll get moved to the reserves.
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They hardly ever get moved to the reserves. It is a contract that both parties agree upon. No need to let your valuable asset rot for a year, just because he is exercising a perfectly valid and legal option. Do it and your reputation is damaged badly and you get tons of negative publicity that could cost you top players and trophies.
 
On a side note, both him and DDG leaving next season would save us 700k per week in wages. With only the striker position to fill, we can use the next one year to identify the right player to replace Pogba.
 
M Bison said:
In regards the question of lack of professionalism, his media handling and saying he wanted a new challenge whilst putting in average performances, along with how vocal his agent and brother are, are examples of poor professionalism in my eyes, and that to me would impact his performance, it says to me he isnt focussed on the job at hand. I'm not saying there aren't other factors at play as you suggest (position, tactics etc), but off-pitch activity has a huge impact on a players performance.
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So because other people close to him run their mouths he's not a professional? We hear time and time again of players causing actual disruption in the squad, but that has never been the case with Pogba. Also, why are you still hanging onto a quote he made a few years ago?
 
bond19821982 said:
On a side note, both him and DDG leaving next season would save us 700k per week in wages. With only the striker position to fill, we can use the next one year to identify the right player to replace Pogba.
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DDG has a contract until 2023.
 
saivet said:
So because other people close to him run their mouths he's not a professional? We hear time and time again of players causing actual disruption in the squad, but that has never been the case with Pogba. Also, why are you still hanging onto a quote he made a few years ago?
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In my eye's yes, exactly that. If the quotes from "his people" were a one-off then I wouldnt raise it, but they're not unfortunately. To me a professional would shut it down and deal with things privately, or as a minimum resolve quickly.
 
bond19821982 said:
On a side note, both him and DDG leaving next season would save us 700k per week in wages. With only the striker position to fill, we can use the next one year to identify the right player to replace Pogba.
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Uhm, 700k, where you get that figure from exactly?
My understand, and it's not even in depth but a simple Google check, is that Pogba is on 290k and De Gea on 350k

Not really good at math but I'm certain that comes under 700k, but round of to the highest I suppose. Bit like how 45mil euros become 45mil pounds with journalistic freedom. :lol:

Still 640k is a massive wage though. Will be interesting too see how this season pans out for both Pogba and De Gea. Hopefully things turn around for both of them and they have a blinder of a season this season.
 
Vanrouge said:
I agree about Raiola, but everyone seems to mention him only in relation to Pogba, whereas he's also agent to other high profile players like Zlatan, Mkhitaryan, Marco Verratti, Donnarumma, Matthijs de Ligt, and Erling Haaland.
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But he really seems to go out of his way for Pogba doesn't he... ?
 
Real payed 30 mil in cash for Alaba to him, agent and family (??). There is a reason why players wait that contract expires
 
Replace "Pogba" with "bitcoin" and this is a proper crypto currency thread.
First we all know he's going.
Then somebody tweets and everybody thinks he's staying.
Then the cycle repeats.

Just to add something to this madness, I'm confident he's leaving.
 
Leaves a bitter taste in my mouth personally the thought of handing him the biggest contract ever at this club when he hasnt set the world alight. AT least DeGea was consistently world class to earn his whopping salary even if he isnt earnign it now....which is relevant to Pogba

Saying that, even so, I would rather sign him on a new contract than allow him to use us for a final season and leave on a free.

But thinking about it, even on a free contract.....29years old and probably another mismash of a season.....who would take him on a free and pay him that kind of salary elsewhere anyway next summer on the continent as for me its still probably only PSG and maybe Juve anyway?

going back to DeGea and why its relevant. Pogba doesnt even deserve on merit a renewal of his contract on the current terms, let alone a huge increase. For me, really it should be an easy decision if there are clubs interested, even at £40m to sell him....of course even then, the cards are in is hands as he can sit tight and see out the final 12 months regardless
 
Royal Madrid said:
Rooney, Rio, Keane, Pogba ... One player is clearly the odd one out, especially in mental characteristics.
Compare the performances of Rooney in 2008/2009, Rio in 2004 and Keane in 1998/1999/2000 with Pogba's time here.

Pogba is a distraction - if Pogba gets 400K (or whatever) despite being above average, then what is stopping Bruno from asking the same? What's stopping others (McGuire/Shaw/Bissaka) from negotiating upwards? Surely their agents are observing this.
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Bloody hell... still we have this :lol:
 
UnitedSofa said:
Fecking hell man, Pogba is not some sort of evil conniving super hero villain that will do this to manipulate the club into going somewhere else. Jesus Christ almighty this is one of the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on here. (and I've written some dumb a*s sh*t on here)

Childlike mentality, fecking hell mate, it's just football, there's no need for these sort of mental gymnastics.

Do you really think him and Raoila sit there and go:

"Yeaaaah let's make them THINK we want to sign a new deal, when in fact we DON'T, that'll surely get us what we want!"

Bloody hell this forum is mad at times.
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Stop being hysterical and trying to make something obvious sound clandestine.

Raiola absolutely wants a bidding war for his player because at the end of the day it's his payday too. Slamming the door on a United deal wouldn't help achieve that so they obviously won't do it regardless of Pogba's true intentions.
 
The frustrating thing is that this charade has gone on every summer for 4 years now.
He has actually been one of our better players on the pitch over the last few years despite not really having his heart in it. Inconsistent and seemingly unmotivated but he can still be class and its a shame we havent seen the best of him.
Although no big clubs seem interested in buying him im sure he will get juicy offers on a free.
Overall though the 5 years of getting his slob agent and family to disrespect the club and demand a move whilst bumping into Zidane in Dubai etc just mean I just dont like the guy.
I will be happy the day he goes
 
400k a week for a player who you have no idea if he will be arsed to show up from one Saturday to the next. Really hope we tell his team to stuff it
 
DSG said:
I hadn’t heard that he was causing issues in the French camp for lackluster work rate defensively. To be fair, I watched all the France matches and it seemed like he was fully engaged, more so than he is with us.

I do think that teams see what we see as fans: a ridiculously talented player and athlete who is error prone in possession, has a poor defensive work rate, makes head scratching errors, tends to have a few injuries, and hasn’t shown consistency. Is a 28 year old with that type of history worth 50m?
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Maybe, but imo, not worthy of anything more than £250,000 per week. He's just not consistent enough for anything more.
 
I'm going to be honest. This thread is mildly entertaining in a way. It's mostly ridiculous rhetoric, some of you are certifiably mad.
 
Lewnited said:
Agreed, it's a good read :lol: Some in here are absolutely unhinged.
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alexthelion said:
Maybe, but imo, not worthy of anything more than £250,000 per week. He's just not consistent enough for anything more.
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Yeah, he will be getting more than that no matter what happens, here or any club in Europe.

Your own personal dislike of the player is twisting your view of him and his worth.

You talk like he’s one of our worst performers, absolutely revisionist nonsense. Whenever fit he is invariably one of our best performers, his post match performance thread reflects this, allowing for the odd poor performance that every single player has.

I can accept people disliking him (if they have to, it’s weird and childish, but whatever) but trying to make everybody believe he’s rubbish at football is just annoying.
 
RUCK4444 said:
Yeah, he will be getting more than that no matter what happens, here or any club in Europe.

Your own personal dislike of the player is twisting your view of him and his worth.

You talk like he’s one of our worst performers, absolutely revisionist nonsense. Whenever fit he is invariably one of our best performers, his post match performance thread reflects this.

I can accept people disliking him (if they have to, it’s weird and childish, but whatever) but trying to make everybody believe he’s rubbish at football is just annoying.
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I don't "dislike" Pogba, I just don't see what his defenders do. He's wildly inconsistent, he's got a shit agent and family who he won't tell to shut up and, to be honest, I'm sick of all the "well he plays brilliantly for France" as if that's got anything to do with playing in the PL.

I just don't think he's worth all the hullaballoo the Pogba FC posters come ouit with.

I would happily replace him with a lesser skilled but m,ore consistent player who fits in our system.
 
predator said:
He's staying. I've said it from the start and said it in all his threads. He loves it at united and is probably more excited this season due to who we have signed. He loves his house in Hale and his girlfriend zulay is happy in the North West. Her recent instagram story suggests she is working with a Cheshire based interior design firm.

The only way he leave this summer is if the club want him to and someone offers a decent fee. I think ole knows if he is utilised properly he can be unplayable. The club want him to stay.

Next season could be our best for almost a decade. Let's support Paul and let's support the team. Enough of the attacks on his attitude and professionalism which gets nothing but praise by his colleagues.
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I wouldn't be too sure about this if you read some of the comments here. Some are way too far gone to do that.
 
Borys said:
Replace "Pogba" with "bitcoin" and this is a proper crypto currency thread.
First we all know he's going.
Then somebody tweets and everybody thinks he's staying.
Then the cycle repeats.

Just to add something to this madness, I'm confident he's leaving.
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I just want the saga ends.
 
Flytan said:
At least have the balls to say racism if you're gonna hint at it. I don't hate pogba but I certainly see why others do and there's absolutely no reason to think it has anything to do with race. But sure, any disdain towards how anyone acts now has to have some deep rooted meaning. He's a frustrating player that's done nothing to appease the fan base he plays for. He knows what his agent is doing (as he made him reel it in once before).
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Maybe have a little google about the use of terms such as "lazy" when directed at Black people. Maybe it hadn't occurred to you, but thanks to the oversensitivity of many white folks when this topic is raised, some of us prefer to go in more nuanced. It has nothing to do with courage; it's more to do with allowing for the predictable defensiveness and trying to raise the issue without accusation. Not everyone who attacks Pogba is a racist, in other words, whereas some are. And they know who they are; it's not up to me to decide who is and who isn't. Easy to accuse someone of lacking "balls" when you can hide behind a screen, my "brave" friend. ;)
 
I say take the risk of Pogba walking away. We’ve brought in two world class players and are now a legitimate contender for the PL and CL.

Say we sell Pogba. You can say goodbye to any conversation about the PL and CL this year. And what would we get? At most 40-45m.
 
Vanrouge said:
Maybe have a little google about the use of terms such as "lazy" when directed at Black people. Maybe it hadn't occurred to you, but thanks to the oversensitivity of many white folks when this topic is raised, some of us prefer to go in more nuanced. It has nothing to do with courage; it's more to do with allowing for the predictable defensiveness and trying to raise the issue without accusation. Not everyone who attacks Pogba is a racist, in other words, whereas some are. And they know who they are; it's not up to me to decide who is and who isn't. Easy to accuse someone of lacking "balls" when you can hide behind a screen, my "brave" friend. ;)
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Hiya - I personally struggling to get my head round this. Calling a player lazy is pretty common - whatever the pigment of their skin. No sure if im being ignorant or your view is more of an american viewpoint? How is calling a player who doesnt put his heart into it lazy somehow racist? No one would ever accuse Rashford of being lazy….
Maybe im an ignorant white guy but it feels like you are saying racist to someone who just doesnt like a certain player?
 
I was hoping the Pogba circus was going to be gone and done by the time the league started but it’s not is it :(

We’re going to have to listen to journo’s ask about his contract every week and hear Raiola soundbites constantly until somethings resolved.
 
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