Why not find a way to get all your best players on the pitch at once?
McTominay has surgery on groin injury
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Why not find a way to get all your best players on the pitch at once?
But there is a line. You can have so many that they become pointless and ultimately one or two will leave.
Same goes with midfield. We won't be buying anyone because McTominay is out for two games. There's already plenty of them.
The Saul loan deal is now screaming at us. We surely cannot go into the season with this CM depth. 1 year commitment whilst McT recovers is desperately needed now.
If we play Cavani, Sancho and Mason together we have Rashford on the bench. He’s not a bad player, is he? When McT comes back from a short term injury then Pogba’s yet another option for those three attacking slots.
We have lots of options. All over the pitch. Yes, some of them could be upgraded. That will never not be the case. Losing your shit because we might need Pogba to play a few games in the position he consistently (and successfully) plays for his national team or (shock horror) actually give VdB a game or two is pure hysteria.
Because that doesn’t necessarily make for the most effective team, as I’m sure you’re aware.
There are lots of poorer footballers than Pogba who make much more effective deep lying midfielders.
If we had another decent central midfielder at the club (which should have happened already) then Pogba would be able to continue playing in the role he’s doing so well in at the moment. It’s poor, no matter how you want to dress it up.
If Rashford doesn't improve on his recent form he should definitely not be starting in my view. Pogba so far looks far better there so I'd rather have him there this season. Cavani can't start every game so there should be plenty of options rotating players and changing formations between games anyway.
Not buying a midfielder because Rashford "should" take Pogbas spot on the left and moving Pogba into a midfield pivot is a bit short-sighted imo.
Bless ya
Despite just having surgery, theres still more chance McTominay starts this weekend over Van Der Beek.
Rumour has it we have a decent Dutch central midfielder already at the club. Blonde fella. If an injury to another player is how he ends up proving he has what it takes (which is often the way fringe players force their way into a team) then that’s fine by me.
By the time mctominay gets back, DvB will still be sat on the bench waiting for his first minutes of the season.
I’d like to see him start this weekend alongside Fred. My worry is that I’m not convinced he ‘has what it takes’. If Ole can’t find a role for him now then it’s looking bleak.
It’s a bit of a fecking enigma what Ole makes of him. Part of me is pleased that injuries might force Ole’s hand to give VdB more of a chance. He wouldn’t be the first player to get established as a first teamer only after impressing when another player gets injured. He looks a tidy player to me. I want to see more of him.
He fills in. As Rashford has filled in at right wing. But you know as well as me that Pogba isn’t naturally suited to the 2. You’re just arguing for the sake of it
So, can someone answer me this. Donny's impressive pre-season Everton performance has merited him zero minutes in either pre-season or regular season since that game. How can someone like Donny improve if he doesn't get minutes on the back of positive performances?
Anyway I’m sure he can pull a Fergie and throw a defender in there. Hello Phil new CDM
You, sir, have just won the rant of the year award!
Our medical staff seem to mis manage all these wee niggles they are aware off.
Could say the same for Andreas? Preseason means feck all when the oppo is only going at 60%. He'll get his chances.
He also showed real tenacity in the Everton preseason game which was good to see
Last time he was hurt we ended up buying Bruno, however that was due to Pogba's injury too. I want to believe this will make us sign someone but think it will just mean Donny playing for a month to cover him but no new player.
Honestly, I think Pogba is absolutely fine in the double pivot.
He used to play there with the likes of Mata, Lingard and others as our first choices in front of him. The attacking talent is much improved. We also had Smalling and Jones and others behind him. The team around him is much improved so I don’t the issue.
Will he occasionally get caught on the ball? Sure. But so does Jorginho. So does Fabinho. So does McTominay and Fred. His attacking gifts are far more important than his flaws. The fact is he’s a better player than any of our other CM’s warts and all.
So we’ve gone from being in absolute desperate need of a CDM to end of days, the apocalypse is now levels of need.
Yes. They seem fecking shite to be fair.
He'll probably only miss the Wolves game... Ole will throw him back in whilst his stitches are still loose.
Imagine doctors not choosing surgery, with all of its inherent risks, as the first option for treatment.
Our medical staff are a disaster. He had this injury all summer and they decide to get surgery 2 games into the season 
To be fair, Rashford's recent form coincided with a shoulder injury, that he eventually needed surgery on, so I don't think we can reasonably judge his ability based on what we've seen from him while playing injured.
I’m really looking forward to seeing that Fred - Matic partnership.
because you just know we won’t sign a DM.
because you just know we won’t sign a DM.
It does feel like we are hard up against the Glazer barrier with this one.
Pogba's absolutely flying out on the left, looks enthusiastic and like he's enjoying his football and people seem to be nonchalant about him going back to a position he gets slaughtered in for the things he doesn't do over all the things he contributes from there...
Disrupting the flow of your best player because you have not planned well despite knowing that one of your current key midfielders needs an operation is ridiculous all-round. Then there's the assumption McTominay comes back in the shortest possible time with no setbacks post-op, which would be incredibly short-sighted on the club’s behalf.
Van de Beek, who has been treated like a leper is now supposed to be a functional part of the rotation also belies what we've actually seen him 'endure' since he got here - Ole's previous actions suggest more run outs for Matic, not PT for Van de Beek.
We were, and are, already sub-par in midfield with our best pairing of McFred in full form and fitness - we're not a team who can afford to be even lesser in midfield than we were 'at our best' because that best was already going to be a struggle to keep pace in a supposed title race in the first place.
Disrupting the flow of your best player because you have not planned well despite knowing that one of your current key midfielders needs an operation is ridiculous all-round. Then there's the assumption McTominay comes back in the shortest possible time with no setbacks post-op, which would be incredibly short-sighted on the club’s behalf.
Van de Beek, who has been treated like a leper is now supposed to be a functional part of the rotation also belies what we've actually seen him 'endure' since he got here - Ole's previous actions suggest more run outs for Matic, not PT for Van de Beek.
We were, and are, already sub-par in midfield with our best pairing of McFred in full form and fitness - we're not a team who can afford to be even lesser in midfield than we were 'at our best' because that best was already going to be a struggle to keep pace in a supposed title race in the first place.
Well if Donny were to find his Ajax form that'd be great.
I absolutely hate that we haven't bought a CDM, I really do.
Yeah utterly negligent but our yankee leeches don't give a shit
That's him out for 6 weeks
not good news. i had to get a groin reduction surgery a few years ago and i never played professional football again. fingers crossed he has better luck.
As a manager my two biggest criticisms of him would be his in game management and his sorting of this Midfield situation.
Every year it gets ignored and we magically have the same issues but a bit worse as every year Matic can do even less.
Did you before?
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Time to find out how good a midfielder Dean Henderson is!
Oh ffs. Could we just get Carrick to do a Scholesy? Or heck I'd take Scholes doing another Scholesy at this point.
Or better yet, sign a fecking midfielder.
Or better yet, sign a fecking midfielder.