Rumours that next week we'll see it opened up to the under 40's.
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Rumours that next week we'll see it opened up to the under 40's.
I am just under 40 and had been hoping to get the booster in before Christmas… but I’ve just caught Covid and tested positive after developing symptoms on Wednesday evening.
Ran a fever for just over 24 hours… muscle aches and a headache. Now feeling better and just have cold like symptoms - stuffy nose and slight cough. No loss of taste or smell thankfully.
Ran a fever for just over 24 hours… muscle aches and a headache. Now feeling better and just have cold like symptoms - stuffy nose and slight cough. No loss of taste or smell thankfully.
Yep. Booking system has changed to allowing over 40s to book at 3 months + from second dose. Expected to change next week (basically once the pre-Christmas slots have gone) to include under 40s.
Some walk-ins are being more generous though. Large London sites in particular, where there are doctors available (they can override the official vaccination checklist on the computers) seem to be accepting younger people (particularly those at 6 months +) and over 40s at 3 months.
That said, as of yesterday, some walk-in sites - particularly the pharmacy led ones that don't have a doctor on site - were still not accepting over 40s who had been booked at 179 days after second dose (insisting that it had to be at least 182) as the national instruction hasn't been updated. Hopefully that bit has now been fixed for this weekend's walk-ins.
At this rate we would be better off developing a vaccine that goes into toothpaste. Daily doses.
Sorry to hear.
I’ve got identical symptoms and took a PCR this morning, but I’ve been getting negative LFT’s all week (I complete them daily for work).
How did you test for it?
Over in Tameside, we've got vaccine buses offering first, second and third doses to anyone over 18. My wife is under 40 and is booked in at a local vaccination centre next week, so you should be able to get one whenever you want, I'd have thought.
LFT… however, I did an LFT when I first started feeling under the weather and that was negative. After a night of worsening symptoms I did one in the morning and that was positive.
I don’t really trust the LFT’s that much but I think false positives are very rare and tbh, with my symptoms I just kind of knew it was Covid anyway. A PCR test arrived in the post today so I will do that and send it back.
So are the figures bad enough for Boris to push the button on another Christmas lockdown? Or is January more likely?
Which is more beneficial to Boris? That's the only thing he cares about
Check to see with local walk in centers now
Early Jan I'd presume unless you fancy one on xmas day.
Think end of January is target for all people who want a booster to receive one but seems wildly optmisitc, probably more start of March. And then a revised vaccine hopefully produced from May to make summer as normal as possible.
Cheers all. Might try my luck with a walk-in centre.
They'll do everything they can to avoid a lock down but more and more tightening of restrictions look inevitable.
Basically watch what Scotland and Wales do. We will do it a week later.
I wonder in retrospect if the entire planet could turn back the clock, would we just switch the world off for 3 weeks and allow the military to drop rations at our doors.
I’m having difficulty maintaining a neutral mentality when it comes to discussing this now, which so far I’ve found to be the best way to avoid damaging relationships. There are people who say “you can’t lock us down, the economy will suffer too much” yet don’t realize that if people get too sick to go to work (particularly in the hospitality industry) then it causes a huge blow to the economy anyway.
I’m having difficulty maintaining a neutral mentality when it comes to discussing this now, which so far I’ve found to be the best way to avoid damaging relationships. There are people who say “you can’t lock us down, the economy will suffer too much” yet don’t realize that if people get too sick to go to work (particularly in the hospitality industry) then it causes a huge blow to the economy anyway.
After the first jab it was implied that we would be pretty well protected after having the 2nd 6 months later . Now we also need a booster and there is talk of a tweaked vaccine for Omicron next year. I know it`s all new and no one can really answer the questions but it seems more and more hit and miss and experimental as we go along. Surely if you have had 2 jabs then you must have a fair bit of protection, especially if you have had covid and recovered without being too ill ? I do wonder where it will end and at what point people will start to call it a day on the jabs, especially the younger ones.
I think about that a lot. But we now know covid can infect animals. So even what you describe there wouldn’t eradicate it.
Hopefully the work from home order and the closing of schools for Christmas next week will help to reduce the infection rates.
Are the military and food supply chain workers immune from covid? It's a pipe dream.
Also the impact of a lock down is greater to the economy than any of the waves that have occurred under low-to-no restrictions, by some magnitude.
Thanks. I expect the PCR to come negative, but have heard of people getting negative LFT’s and then positive PCR’s.
It might make a small difference but pubs will be packed from now til the end of the year while the weather is shite, it`s hard to see cases coming down. Hopefully our hospitals can cope. My wife has just come out after surgery and I have never seen it so busy.
It’s true, there’s just no way of keeping the Travellers locked up.
One for people interested in what kind of modelling the scientists are presenting via SAGE to the NHS and the government.
Two things to note before you read the headlines about "scientists predict" millions of cases, hundreds of thousands of hospitalisations and tens of thousands of deaths:
First - they aren't predictions. They describe a set of assumptions based on current best evidence and look at what happens if nothing else changes (ie: no lockdowns, no people deciding to limit their own social activities etc and that their other assumptions about vaccines etc hold true)
Second - they have to make assumptions about severity. So they assume that once infected you're as likely to get hospitalised/die as you would be if you caught delta. In reality we don't yet know if that's true.
A glimpse into the complex and difficult world of statistical modelling and what goes on behind the headlines:
Two things to note before you read the headlines about "scientists predict" millions of cases, hundreds of thousands of hospitalisations and tens of thousands of deaths:
First - they aren't predictions. They describe a set of assumptions based on current best evidence and look at what happens if nothing else changes (ie: no lockdowns, no people deciding to limit their own social activities etc and that their other assumptions about vaccines etc hold true)
Second - they have to make assumptions about severity. So they assume that once infected you're as likely to get hospitalised/die as you would be if you caught delta. In reality we don't yet know if that's true.
A glimpse into the complex and difficult world of statistical modelling and what goes on behind the headlines:
I suspect by the time it we all found out about it, it was too late anyway. Many people suspect they had something as far back as November 19. The world only started caring when the Chinese started welding people inside their own apartment blocks
Wales have moved to weekly reviews. I expect them to require Covid passes for all hospitality soon. I’d prefer this over “Rule of six” though, which basically ruins Xmas socialising.
Now would be a good moment to stop all trains outbound from London and close the motorways...
OK, maybe we won't do that perhaps we should drop those window-dressing international border controls now.
OK, maybe we won't do that perhaps we should drop those window-dressing international border controls now.
Can anyone explain to me why there is no mask mandate at football matches?
Because it's outside?
Ok. Honestly didn't know that hordes of people standing shoulder to shoulder and screaming and shouting for about 90mins are safe just because they are in an outdoor setting.
Twitter reporting that the NHS England booking system is accepting booster bookings from 30+ group now (even though the message says 40+) It was expected to change on the 13th but it's not unusual for the system to change before the message does. May not be working in every region yet or offering nearest test centre etc.
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There's also an exception to the mask rules at events etc to say that you can remove a mask to sing. As things stand that applies to audiences at pantomimes etc as well. Not sure if it covers people singing along with the Christmas songs in supermarkets
Yes, it was. I checked yesterday but did not book the booster because I was unsure about why it let me. I will wait until they announce it properly.
There's also an exception to the mask rules at events etc to say that you can remove a mask to sing. As things stand that applies to audiences at pantomimes etc as well. Not sure if it covers people singing along with the Christmas songs in supermarkets
Really worried about this thing spreading like mad not just for healthcare sector but also small businesses, hospitality etc especially if no sign of furlough schemes returning
Although you can book, I believe it won’t let you book for a date sooner than your actual due date in relation to your last jab. I’m in the 40+ and booked just before that sector was opened up but the first date I was allowed to book was in direct relation to my last jab. Not sure mind you but that was the case for me.
Outdoor transmission is rare but you are right I think packed like sardines and also congregating in less ventilated areas + in certain areas then using public transport etc with this variant is asking for super spreader events to happen.
Unfortunately I think there will be pragmatic approaches regardless of how bad this things get to avoid the kinds of lockdown we've seen before because quite simply I don't see the public appetite for them, nor do the government have moral authority anymore on this.
Got mine booked in just now for before Xmas. Thanks for sharing this.
It's precisely why I think mask mandates are important. Much easier to make people wear masks and keep every activity open rather than no masks and then be forced to shut things down.
Thanks. Just booked. I got AZ back in March so was feeling very unprotected!
Cheers. Got one for this Wednesday a mile down the road.
Incidentally reddit are running updates on walk-in sites. Some walk-in sites are still only accepting 40+/6months+ whereas others are accepting 18+, those jabbed 3 months+ ago, and various permutations in between.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GetJabbed/
Postcode lottery, and maybe an element of luck about what you find on the day - which could be set by queue length and capacity. London in particular has options.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GetJabbed/
Postcode lottery, and maybe an element of luck about what you find on the day - which could be set by queue length and capacity. London in particular has options.