Rooney

Mithun said:
Huntelaar and Torres will add clinical finishing. Both are front-line strikers. Apart from Saha we don't have that kind of goalscoring CF.
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Solskjaer
Larsson

Apart from Rooney, we don't have that kind of strikers that drop off the front-line.
 
Mithun said:
Yes Cantona, Keane were very high level performers and very consistent. Rooney can be very good to absolutely dire.
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Rooney is VERY rarely dire. No more so than Cantona.
 
Mithun said:
If you think Wayne Rooney is a player that's been this good at a young age just because of his muscles... He's the best forward in the country and he's been so for the past 3 years.


Rooney has been nowhere near top of the goalscoring charts in any year. Nor is he prolific or uniquely creative. So how has he been the best. Henry has been the best. Rooney has too many serious goal droughts and at times never looks likely to score. His failure to score for MU may prove costly in the title race. Have you considered that yet?
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You are mixing playing forward with goals scoring. They don't neccesarily go hand in hand. Otherwise a player like Berkamp would never have been regarded as highly a he was
 
CnutOfAllCnuts said:
Don't mate me. Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime are not my mates.

Of course there is a difference between a 16-17 year old and a 20-21 year old. I'd be worried if he wasn't bigger now than 3-4 years ago! :rolleyes:
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your name says it all. why then is players like RvP, Fabregas, CR7, all in excellent physical shape? But rooney has put on weight?

Why is the likes of Saha (28) Henry (29) Anelka (28) all in excellent physical condition? Why is Giggs still in good condition? He still has some of his pace at 33. This will not be the case for rooney.
 
Mithun said:
your name says it all. why then is players like RvP, Fabregas, CR7, all in excellent physical shape? But rooney has put on weight?

Why is the likes of Saha (28) Henry (29) Anelka (28) all in excellent physical condition? Why is Giggs still in good condition? He still has some of his pace at 33. This will not be the case for rooney.
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They're all naturally thin/narrow boned. Skinny lads, basically.

You fecking div.
 
yes that is jUST my point ---rooney is not thin-boned and HAS and will continue to have a weight problem. Got that di*ckhead!
 
Mithun said:
your name says it all. why then is players like RvP, Fabregas, CR7, all in excellent physical shape? But rooney has put on weight?

Why is the likes of Saha (28) Henry (29) Anelka (28) all in excellent physical condition? Why is Giggs still in good condition? He still has some of his pace at 33. This will not be the case for rooney.
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I am sure van Persie weighs more now than when he was 16-17. Fabregas will obviously gain weight over the next few years. All men do bulk up and develop physically between the age of 16 to early 20's.

How do you know Rooney won't be in a good physical condition in 10 years time? And who says he is not in a superb physical condition at the moment? :confused:
 
But you're going on how he looks, rather than how fit he actually is.

How do you explain the fact that Rooney covers more ground per game than any other player we have, and is one of our quickest players as well?
 
Romario was a stocky bugger. Lightning quick, though, and played at a high level until he was 40.
 
Mithun said:
yes that is jUST my point ---rooney is not thin-boned and HAS and will continue to have a weight problem. Got that di*ckhead!
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:lol:

Has he got a weight problem?
 
Mithun said:
your name says it all. why then is players like RvP, Fabregas, CR7, all in excellent physical shape? But rooney has put on weight?

Why is the likes of Saha (28) Henry (29) Anelka (28) all in excellent physical condition? Why is Giggs still in good condition? He still has some of his pace at 33. This will not be the case for rooney.
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sincher said:
But you're going on how he looks, rather than how fit he actually is.

How do you explain the fact that Rooney covers more ground per game than any other player we have, and is one of our quickest players as well?
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rooney when he dribbles rarely blasts past players. Players can keep up with him and get in tackles.
And yes rooney all credit works hard for the team---but he needs to use his head and play his position better. He needs to operate in the opponents areas and look to score more or get to the end of chance s rather than wander around everywhere all the time. MU have a very strong defence and have a covering midfielder always.

Goals/ assists/ creativity is what rooney should be judged on more than running left right centre.
 
Mithun said:
rooney when he dribbles rarely blasts past players. Players can keep up with him and get in tackles.
And yes rooney all credit works hard for the team---but he needs to use his head and play his position better. He needs to operate in the opponents areas and look to score more or get to the end of chance s rather than wander around everywhere all the time. MU have a very strong defence and have a covering midfielder always.

Goals/ assists/ creativity is what rooney should be judged on more than running left right centre.
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In that case, he's having a superb season.
 
Mithun said:
rooney when he dribbles rarely blasts past players. Players can keep up with him and get in tackles.
And yes rooney all credit works hard for the team---but he needs to use his head and play his position better. He needs to operate in the opponents areas and look to score more or get to the end of chance s rather than wander around everywhere all the time. MU have a very strong defence and have a covering midfielder always.

Goals/ assists/ creativity is what rooney should be judged on more than running left right centre.
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Rooney "blasts past" players frequently. Very few players can keep up with him, apart from the very quick ones.
 
Mithun said:
yes that is jUST my point ---rooney is not thin-boned and HAS and will continue to have a weight problem. Got that di*ckhead!
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I don't understand your concern.

There's four types of muscular skeletal builds in humans.

SF Ectomorphs, R Ectomorphs, Mesomorphs and Endomorphs.

Endomorphs aren't natural athletes. They gain fat easy and just aren't build for physical pursuits, particularly sports that are taxing on the cardiovascular system such as football.

SF-Ectomorphs aren't natural athletes either. They have a small frame but aren't muscle bound. They often have high body fat percantages but look thin.

R Ectomorphs and Mesomorphs are the natural athletes.

Giggs and the others you mentioned are R Ectomorphs. They are naturally skinny. They have low body fat percentage. They find it hard to gain Muscle and they find it hard to gain fat. Ectomorphs make brilliant footballers, but are not good Rugby players or boxers.

Rooney, as well as other footballers such as Sol Campbell, John Terry and Darius Vassel (to name a few) are mesomorphs. Mesomorphs can gain weight easy, particularly muscle, but also fat. BUT they also are the quickest of all the body types when it comes to shedding fat. Mesomorphs are also naturally very strong. They are very good boxers, Rugby players, Wrestlers and Bodybuilders. But they also carry over into sports such as Football and do very well at it.

As long as Rooney is training he's not going to gain any weight. Even if he does, whilst he's injured or what not. He will lose it very easily.
 
Morph - brilliant footballer
Tony Hart - rubbish
 
sincher said:
In that case, he's having a superb season.
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rooney is no natural playmaker. His passing or awareness is not developed to that level. His shooting was his main weapon and he seems to have lost all confidence to shoot.
 
Mithun said:
rooney is no natural playmaker. His passing or awareness is not developed to that level. His shooting was his main weapon and he seems to have lost all confidence to shoot.
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Sorry, that's bullshit.
 
Mithun said:
rooney is no natural playmaker. His passing or awareness is not developed to that level. His shooting was his main weapon and he seems to have lost all confidence to shoot.
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You should stop drinking

Rooney's awareness is top notch, and his passing his of very high standard; one touch, short and long.
 
The Hairdryer said:
I don't understand your concern.

There's four types of muscular skeletal builds in humans.

SF Ectomorphs, R Ectomorphs, Mesomorphs and Endomorphs.

Endomorphs aren't natural athletes. They gain fat easy and just aren't build for physical pursuits, particularly sports that are taxing on the cardiovascular system such as football.

SF-Ectomorphs aren't natural athletes either. They have a small frame but aren't muscle bound. They often have high body fat percantages but look thin.

R Ectomorphs and Mesomorphs are the natural athletes.

Giggs and the others you mentioned are R Ectomorphs. They are naturally skinny. They have low body fat percentage. They find it hard to gain Muscle and they find it hard to gain fat. Ectomorphs make brilliant footballers, but are not good Rugby players or boxers.

Rooney, as well as other footballers such as Sol Campbell, John Terry and Darius Vassel (to name a few) are mesomorphs. Mesomorphs can gain weight easy, particularly muscle, but also fat. BUT they also are the quickest of all the body types when it comes to shedding fat. Mesomorphs are also naturally very strong. They are very good boxers, Rugby players, Wrestlers and Bodybuilders. But they also carry over into sports such as Football and do very well at it.

As long as Rooney is training he's not going to gain any weight. Even if he does, whilst he's injured or what not. He will lose it very easily.
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this is all very good explanations scientifically. The problem is rooney is playing upfront. He needs to be on top physically all the time. defenders like sol, terry can afford to have to some excess fat as they are defenders and have to play a physical impact game.


there have been some very good chubby players in the game but this trend is very low.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Spot on. Rooney is the best central playmaker of his age bracket. Without a shadow of a doubt. Only Fabregas comes close. Yet even he is still way behind
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I've said it for a long time; Wayne Rooney is the long-term replacement for Paul Scholes. Not necessarily in terms of position, but in terms of being the natural centre of our attacking, the player who gets the ball moving.
 
Mithun said:
this is all very good explanations scientifically. The problem is rooney is playing upfront. He needs to be on top physically all the time. defenders like sol, terry can afford to have to some excess fat as they are defenders and have to play a physical impact game.


there have been some very good chubby players in the game but this trend is very low.
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Yet again Mithun, it is clear that you have got a clue what you are talking about. You are either just trying to wind people up, or you are just simply thick.

For a start, being chubby means you are carrying excess fat. Rooney is not. If you have seen him without his shirt on, you would realise this. He is a top athlete in fine condition.
 
CnutOfAllCnuts said:
You should stop drinking

Rooney's awareness is top notch, and his passing his of very high standard; one touch, short and long.
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Scholes has the best gameplay and awareness and decision-making at MU. His game flows easily and effectively.

Whilst rooney plays in the hole he is no playmaker. He is too wasteful and not creative enough. Last seaon rooney got the highest assists at MU approx 12-14 assists. Yet the likes of Saha/ Park got about 8 assists each---playing a fraction of the time. 12-14 assists is poor considering rooney plays for MU --and plays alot of defensively weak teams in the EPL i.e Sunderland, West Brom, Charlton, Boro etc
Given how everyone makes out his special talent he needs to produce more special moments more and consistently to justify thi acclaim.
 
Mithun said:
Scholes has the best gameplay and awareness and decision-making at MU. His game flows easily and effectively.

Whilst rooney plays in the hole he is no playmaker. He is too wasteful and not creative enough. Last seaon rooney got the highest assists at MU approx 12-14 assists. Yet the likes of Saha/ Park got about 8 assists each---playing a fraction of the time. 12-14 assists is poor considering rooney plays for MU --and plays alot of defensively weak teams in the EPL i.e Sunderland, West Brom, Charlton, Boro etc
Given how everyone makes out his special talent he needs to produce more special moments more and consistently to justify thi acclaim.
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Clueless,

You are blinded by stats. Stats only tells a fraction of the story. On one hand you dismiss Rooney as a playmaker, due to 'only' having had 12-14 assists last season - whilst on the other you hail Scholes. Scholes has two assists this season, and one of them is from a bloody corner.

Anyone who can't see that Rooney is a special player should stop watching football, because they obviously have no clue about it, nor able to appreciate it the way the game should be appreciated.
 
Mithun said:
Scholes has the best gameplay and awareness and decision-making at MU. His game flows easily and effectively.

Whilst rooney plays in the hole he is no playmaker. He is too wasteful and not creative enough. Last seaon rooney got the highest assists at MU approx 12-14 assists. Yet the likes of Saha/ Park got about 8 assists each---playing a fraction of the time. 12-14 assists is poor considering rooney plays for MU --and plays alot of defensively weak teams in the EPL i.e Sunderland, West Brom, Charlton, Boro etc
Given how everyone makes out his special talent he needs to produce more special moments more and consistently to justify thi acclaim.
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The more you post sir you appear to be a Rooney hater.
 
My god. Muppetry taken to an even higher level. I wouldn't have thought it possible.
 
Mithun said:
yes that is jUST my point ---rooney is not thin-boned and HAS and will continue to have a weight problem. Got that di*ckhead!
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What a fecking div.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Spot on. Rooney is the best central playmaker of his age bracket. Without a shadow of a doubt. Only Fabregas comes close. Yet even he is still way behind
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Only on Redcafe could the purblind use a woefully out of form (at best) or now found out (at worst) Rooney and vision in the same sentence.Fabregas is different class,the most naturally talented midfield genius since Michel Platini.

Some of the goal making assists of Fabregas have been awe inspiring this season.

Rooney......vision? You're 'aving a laugh! :lol:
 
Gillespie said:
,the most naturally talented midfield genius since Michel Platini.

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:lol:


He's off to Real this summer, by the way.
 
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