Mithun said:
You have no idea what your talking about. Stop embarrasing yourself.
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You have no idea what your talking about. Stop embarrasing yourself.
Gillespie, you picked the wrong time to pick on a player. Maybe you should have gone with an easier target like Fletcher/silvestre/O'shea/Richardson. We're on top of the league and having a laugh.
I think Arse players are all in decline because they are all gays and will die of AIDS soon.
I think I still make more sense than Gillespie does.
I think I still make more sense than Gillespie does.
Successful said:
A point I made to GB but being on top ain't his scene
redzeppelin said:
Jesus loves you
.....but everyone else thinks you're a tosser
What's your new record for sticking Arsenal subbuteo figurines up your arse, Gill?
I heard it was 25, 20 of which were Fabregas.
I heard it was 25, 20 of which were Fabregas.
sincher said:
Is this Gillespie bloke the one with the plane?
Yes.Guvnorgaz said:
Gillespie Air is an emergency flight service which flies Caf Gooners out on sudden and urgent business trips after they get drubbed.
I thought so. So we have a Gooner with and aeroplane and a scouser who likes to go for runs late at night
Brad_Cantona83 said:
I'm not a 'Rooney doubter', it's more of a young player thing in general. There are so many factors that contribute to a lad's develepment, not just ability.
Denilson is an example, he, on ability, could have easily been Ronaldinho. Quaresma, well he still ha time, but he was probably no less,maybe even superiorly gifted than Ronaldo, yet his pth hasn't been as predicted. There are probably a lot of kids who can do anything with a ball, some more so than Rooney, that you hardly know even. Somebody like Ben Arfa probably falls into that category, but will most likely never make it anywhere as high as Rooney.
Is Rooney any more likely than a young Nicolas Anelka to make it as one of the world's best strikers, hindsight excluded?
Just saying you never know that's all, because we don't know them personally, and ability isn't all.
10th in the league in goals is not that bad.It's...ok.
sincher said:
Anelka IS on of the best strikers in the world. His attitude however has not let him play at a big club to prove it anymore thoughkanchelskis14 said:
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:1. Yes Rooney has weaknesses but none of the ones you described. Trying to deny that Rooney is class when Greats of the game like Maradona hail him is ludicrous. It makes you look like a Ronaldo hater.
2. Rooney is not overwieght as you are trying to claim. He is a stocky lad ala Abedi Pele, Maradona etc. Abedi mind played till he was 40 and I never ever saw him lose form. Yet even he doesn't have the talent and maturity of player Rooney has.
3. Rooney's game is based on doing the simple things excellently. His vision is excellent, his eye for a pass awesome. He has a tremendous shot on him and can actually finish decently. Plus he has the strength and energy no forward of his generation has. He might not be great with both feet but his left foot is improving. If his form is inconsistent now it is because he is young. His greatest weakness is only his temprament but he will mellow with maturity. Ronaldo may have more talent overall but Rooney will be a player as great as Ronaldo will be in the future regardless.
4. Lastly, Rooney's game is not based on scoring. It's based on creating his teams play. He doesn't have to rake up many assists to be our playmaker. Besdie he scores a reasonable amounyt any way
Rooney yes has weakness but he is only 20/21. Crucifying him for his weaknesses and saying he wont develope into a great or will burn out and become heavey as he nears his 30's is ridiculous. Don't forget Mattheus who was built in a similar way played till he was 40.
Thus points out the chief
i only said he had weaknesses he needs to improve on. I did not say he would'nt improve. Stop making cr*ap up. if his vision, passing is excellent why is he so wasteful in possession? You may argue rooney takes alot of risks but so does ronaldo with his dribbles and play --yet he hardly is caught out in his dribble.
How is wayne's left foot improving exactly?
Where are the examples he can shoot consistenly well from long range this season?
when he dribbles he is a 'head-down' player and shows too much of the ball to defenders.
OK rooney has hard work ethic. Yet RvP does a lot less yet operates more effectively destroying defences and getting on the end of chances and converting them.
these are my observations on rooney. He needs to play more intelligently especially around the box. He needs to work on the above points. Also he needs to improve his first touch --the likes of Giggs/ Ronaldo/ Scholes never take a bad 1st touch --rooney does this too often and often chances are lost.
Gillespie said:
Interesting to note that in the 19 PL games he has played, Rooney has completed the full 90 mins in 15 games this season and 75, 76 & 78 mins in another 3.
I saw him play at SJP and the way he covered every blade of grass was impressive....it has to be remembered that even when not scoring he is contributing to the goal/game and is a massively important cog in the MU team. 8 goals 7 assists.
Ronaldo sucked in 3 Newcastle players to leave Scholes the space to score his second and Rooney helps the team in just the same way by taking players out of the game giving his team mates space.
Sorry Gillespie but the idea he is on the way down due to his shape is farcical.
At one time everyone had a go at Rooney for his disciplinary record and now he has sorted that out it's his fecking shape.
No one (except the forum dullards) is suggesting that Rooney is anything other than a very fine player, who, even recently, is important for his all-round game. However, I've seen other young players who had a headstart in terms of physique fail to reach their full potential because they muscled up to the detriment of their all round speed and mobility. Two that come to mind at Arsenal were Kevin Campbell and the late David Rocastle, both fantastic 20 year olds but a year or so later overmuscled and lacking pace. Campbell made a fair career for himself but was never the force he threatened to be.
peterstorey said:
Probably one of the reasons why Rooney doesn't do weights
I see what you are getting at. But Truth is Mithun, Rooney's weakneeses are more pronounced now because he is having the worst season of his brief carreer.Mithun said:
When on top of his game. You almost never see those weaknesses. It must be noted that they are there in his game simply because he is a young player and still developing. Don't forget that.
SittingBull said:
Haha... Gascoigne and Scholes maybe.. Rooney ?? No fecking way... I could list a few other players that are much more technically gifted..
1) Robbie Fowler - Probably the most gifted striker i've seen in the last 15 years in the English Premier League.. At his peak, i would put him in my team, in front of Thiery Henry... And this is coming from a person who hates anything Liverpool down to the core...
2) Glenn Hoddle - Elegant midfielder. Shite manager though
3) David Beckham - needs no introduction
4) Jaime Redknapp - Wonderful midfielder who career is plagued by injuries.. Can do anything with the ball.. Brilliant technique. Again coming from a Liverpool hater.
Redknapp and Beckham
Gillespie said:
A player who turned down the chance of a ten day rest in just the last few weeks has a "flagging affection for the game"...surely only a total moron would a) believe that & b) actually post it on a website without a
And some of the stuff in that article is simply fantatsic. This quote in particular: "so undisciplined he might have compounded a miserable performance against Aston Villa with still another dismissal,"...Red cards Rooney has received this season... 0.
What sort of research went into this or was it just written by a worried gooner ahead of the weekend?
HeinzeBeans said:A player who turned down the chance of a ten day rest in just the last few weeks has a "flagging affection for the game"...surely only a total moron would a) believe that & b) actually post it on a website without a
And some of the stuff in that article is simply fantatsic. This quote in particular: "so undisciplined he might have compounded a miserable performance against Aston Villa with still another dismissal,"...Red cards Rooney has received this season... 0.
What sort of research went into this or was it just written by a worried gooner ahead of the weekend?
Written by a well known journalist with no affection for Arsenal
Lawton's a known idiot, though.
Rooney is clearly past it. Fergies should sell him and spend his money on 30 year old Germans and Ukranians.
Lawton should stick to the boxing he actually knows a thing or two about that. His football stuff's embarrassing
He was told to write about football a few years ago. He's a JCL to the national game.
Well known journalist & prat... with probably a secret French love of Arsenal.
By all means state that Rooney has not been at his awesome best this season but don't make blase comments with no foundation at all.
Anyway on another note the article kind of rubbishes your opening gambit when it says "most notably that the most naturally talented player in this country, and perhaps Europe".
Sorry but for my money even the out of form Rooney of this season has arguably been better than almost every Arsenal player this season. And hes scored more goals than all but one of your players...
By all means state that Rooney has not been at his awesome best this season but don't make blase comments with no foundation at all.
Anyway on another note the article kind of rubbishes your opening gambit when it says "most notably that the most naturally talented player in this country, and perhaps Europe".
Sorry but for my money even the out of form Rooney of this season has arguably been better than almost every Arsenal player this season. And hes scored more goals than all but one of your players...
Won't it be funny if Wayne Rooney bags a hat trick against Arsenal this Sunday!
And that too :
Goal number 1 - Off his back side on a Carrick corner.
Goal number 2 - Ronaldo shoots and it bangs Lehmann in the face before hitting Rooney's head and trickling into the goal
Goal number 3 - off his shin from an O'Shea cross
Goal number 1 - Off his back side on a Carrick corner.
Goal number 2 - Ronaldo shoots and it bangs Lehmann in the face before hitting Rooney's head and trickling into the goal
Goal number 3 - off his shin from an O'Shea cross
What a joke.
Rooney,along with Ronaldo are 2 of the top 4 players in the league.if those 2 are healthy,United win the league.Thats how good they are.Arsenal have Henry,we have Gerrard.But United have 2 of those types of players on their team.
Can't say enough about Shrek...the cnut.
Can't say enough about Shrek...the cnut.
Vinay said:Won't it be funny if Wayne Rooney bags a hat trick against Arsenal this Sunday!
About as likely as me winning the lottery
Gillespie said:
Well, put it this way. I think Rooney is more likely to score a hat-trick, than O'Shea is to score once...
Gillespie said:
You better buy a lottery, I tell you!
Davo said:
Now I am worried about Rooney.
NWR said:Now I am worried about Rooney.
Me to
To hear someone who used to tell us how class Heskey was, is truly worrying!
IndeedCnutOfAllCnuts said:Me to
To hear someone who used to tell us how class Heskey was, is truly worrying!
njred said:
There've been plenty of United players who have had a better season than Rooney though. I'd say Scholes, Ronaldo and Vidic have contributed more to United's excellent run, and there are others who have had as much of an impact on United's season as Rooney.
To be fair, this is correct.Namliam said:
Because almost every single member of the first team has been instrumental in winning games this season. Not everyone in every game, but everyone in some games.