Rooney

Gillespie said:
Only on Redcafe could the purblind use a woefully out of form (at best) or now found out (at worst) Rooney and vision in the same sentence.Fabregas is different class,the most naturally talented midfield genius since Michel Platini.

Some of the goal making assists of Fabregas have been awe inspiring this season.

Rooney......vision? You're 'aving a laugh! :lol:
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Gillespie said:
Only on Redcafe could the purblind use a woefully out of form (at best) or now found out (at worst) Rooney and vision in the same sentence.Fabregas is different class,the most naturally talented midfield genius since Michel Platini.

Some of the goal making assists of Fabregas have been awe inspiring this season.

Rooney......vision? You're 'aving a laugh! :lol:
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Are you a Gooner then Tarquin, sorry I mean Gillespie?

If Fabregas is so good, then why are Arsenal so poor? To compare Fabregas to Platini is laughable. Don't get me wrong Fabregas is an excellent player, one I'd be more than happy with at United but compared to Platini?? please!
 
Gillespie said:
Only on Redcafe could the purblind use a woefully out of form (at best) or now found out (at worst) Rooney and vision in the same sentence.Fabregas is different class,the most naturally talented midfield genius since Michel Platini.

Some of the goal making assists of Fabregas have been awe inspiring this season.

Rooney......vision? You're 'aving a laugh! :lol:
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:wenger:
Congratulations Sir. Upon earning your doctrate in stupidity with that rousing prononcement:smirk:
 
Gillespie said:
I've been thinking for some time that the man child that is Rooney has peaked.The signs of decline are already there.Blessed with a powerful physique at 16 he dominated youth football and was more than a match for the senior flight....however,his physique has always been more that of a sprinter/boxer than a footballer.He was a freak for his age at 16.

He appears now to be musclebound with a tendency to pile on the pounds particularly as he gets older.

No surprise therefore that he tends to fade often disappearing in matches because he lacks stamina.As he gets older I predict he will continue to struggle both with his weight and fitness.

Make the most of him for what remains.......he will continue to disappoint as he declines
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wtf?
 
Gillespie said:
No surprise therefore that he tends to fade often disappearing in matches because he lacks stamina.As he gets older I predict he will continue to struggle both with his weight and fitness.
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Nostradamus, is the lack of stamina the reason why he keeps tracking back all the way to the opposite penalty area during the whole 90 minutes?
 
Mithun said:
If you think Wayne Rooney is a player that's been this good at a young age just because of his muscles... He's the best forward in the country and he's been so for the past 3 years.


Rooney has been nowhere near top of the goalscoring charts in any year. Nor is he prolific or uniquely creative. So how has he been the best. Henry has been the best. Rooney has too many serious goal droughts and at times never looks likely to score. His failure to score for MU may prove costly in the title race. Have you considered that yet?
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You quoted my post and here's your answer. I don't understand how you can say that Rooney has been NOWHERE NEAR THE TOP. NOWHERE NEAR THE TOP???? Are you just talking about goals here? Are you one of those people who just watch the score summary and make up your own ideas of what the game must have been like? Do you realise that Rooney was playing international football at the age of 17, and was the biggest threat in the euro 2004 cup. Then there are people talking about his poor performance for england and that he haven't scored for very long. You don't play many international games during 2 years. The world cup can be over in 3 games, 5 for england this time around. How many do you recon would be a success when they win the scoring league at 5-6 goals nowdays. Do you think Jermaine Defoe or Inzaghi are better players just because they manage to tap in more goals? :lol: :lol: Wayne Rooney is exclusive and defenders triple their effort to stop this lad because they know he's unreal whenever he's on fire. Please get this. There are forwards and there are forwards. Rooney is great.
 
Scholesy has never been the most athletic and lean build but he has got by in his career(apparently with asthma problems as well). He, Rooney and Gascoigne are perhaps the 3 most technically gifted British players over the last 25 years or so. Rooney said in an interview that he doesnt do weights but does extra running after training. Im sure he has to be careful in what he eats but with modern sports science etc it shouldnt be too difficult to cope with.
 
Gillespie said:
Only on Redcafe could the purblind use a woefully out of form (at best) or now found out (at worst) Rooney and vision in the same sentence.Fabregas is different class,the most naturally talented midfield genius since Michel Platini.

Some of the goal making assists of Fabregas have been awe inspiring this season.

Rooney......vision? You're 'aving a laugh! :lol:
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:lol: :wenger:
 
CnutOfAllCnuts said:
Clueless,

You are blinded by stats. Stats only tells a fraction of the story. On one hand you dismiss Rooney as a playmaker, due to 'only' having had 12-14 assists last season - whilst on the other you hail Scholes. Scholes has two assists this season, and one of them is from a bloody corner.

Anyone who can't see that Rooney is a special player should stop watching football, because they obviously have no clue about it, nor able to appreciate it the way the game should be appreciated.
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all i'm saying is that given his 'genius' labelling --rooney's goals/ assists to minutes ratio is poor.


Scholes is 32 whilst he is nowhere near to the peak of his powers ---the way he plays the game is very intelligent. That is intelligence. Of course Scholes has to be more consistent and perform well. BUT the point is rooney cost £27Million and that is alot of money invested so with that comes responsibilities.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
The more you post sir you appear to be a Rooney hater.
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stop trying to generalise here. I have given specific reasons here why i am questioning certain qualities of rooney here. The way some of you build him up --he has FFS lots of weaknesses.

For one since his arrival has rooney's game really improved? and if so then how exactly? In comparison look at ronaldo --he is bigger/ stronger and faster and has more end product. He can comfortably score from distance with either foot and has improved on his freekicks and crossing.

ronaldo is the bigger talent of the two
 
CnutOfAllCnuts said:
Don't mate me. Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime are not my mates.

Of course there is a difference between a 16-17 year old and a 20-21 year old. I'd be worried if he wasn't bigger now than 3-4 years ago! :rolleyes:
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Then you better be worried about Fletcher cos he's still skinny as feck after all these years..
 
thoward said:
Scholesy has never been the most athletic and lean build but he has got by in his career(apparently with asthma problems as well). He, Rooney and Gascoigne are perhaps the 3 most technically gifted British players over the last 25 years or so. Rooney said in an interview that he doesnt do weights but does extra running after training. Im sure he has to be careful in what he eats but with modern sports science etc it shouldnt be too difficult to cope with.
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Haha... Gascoigne and Scholes maybe.. Rooney ?? No fecking way... I could list a few other players that are much more technically gifted..

1) Robbie Fowler - Probably the most gifted striker i've seen in the last 15 years in the English Premier League.. At his peak, i would put him in my team, in front of Thiery Henry... And this is coming from a person who hates anything Liverpool down to the core...

2) Glenn Hoddle - Elegant midfielder. Shite manager though

3) David Beckham - needs no introduction

4) Jaime Redknapp - Wonderful midfielder who career is plagued by injuries.. Can do anything with the ball.. Brilliant technique. Again coming from a Liverpool hater.
 
youre probably all wondering why ive moved this to the football forum.

Simple, i believe that 'Gillespie' is on a windup, though he denies it

as ive banned him from the United forum, and he wants to be able to contribute to his thread, ive moved it here.
 
currently drinking water.

I want fast food for dinner. I may well be told to "feck right off, you disgusting, fat, infection-ridden mental midget".

And that's just from the cats.
 
Mithun said:
stop trying to generalise here. I have given specific reasons here why i am questioning certain qualities of rooney here. The way some of you build him up --he has FFS lots of weaknesses.

For one since his arrival has rooney's game really improved? and if so then how exactly? In comparison look at ronaldo --he is bigger/ stronger and faster and has more end product. He can comfortably score from distance with either foot and has improved on his freekicks and crossing.

ronaldo is the bigger talent of the two
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1. Yes Rooney has weaknesses but none of the ones you described. Trying to deny that Rooney is class when Greats of the game like Maradona hail him is ludicrous. It makes you look like a Ronaldo hater.

2. Rooney is not overwieght as you are trying to claim. He is a stocky lad ala Abedi Pele, Maradona etc. Abedi mind played till he was 40 and I never ever saw him lose form. Yet even he doesn't have the talent and maturity of player Rooney has.

3. Rooney's game is based on doing the simple things excellently. His vision is excellent, his eye for a pass awesome. He has a tremendous shot on him and can actually finish decently. Plus he has the strength and energy no forward of his generation has. He might not be great with both feet but his left foot is improving. If his form is inconsistent now it is because he is young. His greatest weakness is only his temprament but he will mellow with maturity. Ronaldo may have more talent overall but Rooney will be a player as great as Ronaldo will be in the future regardless.

4. Lastly, Rooney's game is not based on scoring. It's based on creating his teams play. He doesn't have to rake up many assists to be our playmaker. Besdie he scores a reasonable amounyt any way

Rooney yes has weakness but he is only 20/21. Crucifying him for his weaknesses and saying he wont develope into a great or will burn out and become heavey as he nears his 30's is ridiculous. Don't forget Mattheus who was built in a similar way played till he was 40.

Thus points out the chief:cool:
 
Nice to see that many of the Man Utd faithful share my views regarding Rooney

I can even see some merit in the comparisons made by some with Gascoigne......so much unfulfilled promise.

Anyway,time will tell depending on his performance for the rest of the season

Hey GB bookmark this thread.....I'd like to come back to this thesis as we go through the rest of the season
 
Gillespie said:
Nice to see that many of the Man Utd faithful share my views regarding Rooney

I can even see some merit in the comparisons made by some with Gascoigne......so much unfulfilled promise.

Anyway,time will tell depending on his performance for the rest of the season

Hey GB bookmark this thread.....I'd like to come back to this thesis as we go through the rest of the season
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Shut up retard.

Can't wait for the weekend when you will be "away on Business"
 
Gillespie said:
As I am going to Anfield,I'll see you back here on Sunday

I fear the worst without Fabregas who is suspended
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Is that the first Sunday of 2007, or the first Sunday of 2008?
 
There is one thing though that can be said about Rooney's weak sides... he can't head... He really stinks at that department :)
 
Mithun said:
rooney when he dribbles rarely blasts past players. Players can keep up with him and get in tackles.
And yes rooney all credit works hard for the team---but he needs to use his head and play his position better. He needs to operate in the opponents areas and look to score more or get to the end of chance s rather than wander around everywhere all the time. MU have a very strong defence and have a covering midfielder always.

Goals/ assists/ creativity is what rooney should be judged on more than running left right centre.
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Goals/Assists..If we strictly go by the stats in then last couple of season also this season, Rooney is the most creative player we have had at United in the last 10 years or so.
 
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