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Been posted a couple of times already.
Just seen that Zelenski played a president on a TV show before becoming one.
That's so surreal, it's the equivalent of Kiefer Sutherland becoming US president off the back of Designated Survivor.
That's so surreal, it's the equivalent of Kiefer Sutherland becoming US president off the back of Designated Survivor.
tbf Keifer probably had more preparation and training than Z, having played the lead role in 24 prior to the DS role.
True. Also if he is anything like his character on DS then I imagine America's approach to the pandemic would have been world's apart from what we have seen.
New bayraktars have already arrived in Ukraine and are on combat duty. There will be more stingers and javelins!
Let's win together!
Minister of Defense of Ukraine
Let's win together!
Minister of Defense of Ukraine
I do not condone blanket sanctions to any country, be it yemen, north korea, etc.
It's inhumane to make people suffer. There are people that need medication, food etc and unable to do so due to the crippling sanction.
By all means take them to war, kill and fight but leave the civilians alone.
It's inhumane to make people suffer. There are people that need medication, food etc and unable to do so due to the crippling sanction.
By all means take them to war, kill and fight but leave the civilians alone.
#War_is_bad ?
День сурка in Russian.
I was agreeing with you. We are all saying the same thing, Only a total psycho or a Putin agent can have a different opinion here.
Interesting...
Ambamovich jet lands in Ankara, Turkey
This is the city that was exposed for aiding illegal shipments of oil during the Iraq war.
Ambamovich jet lands in Ankara, Turkey
This is the city that was exposed for aiding illegal shipments of oil during the Iraq war.
Putin is fully in control of when their suffering ends.
If you do that though you can create far worse conditions in the future. Sanctions that affect the public are often very important in bringing about regime change so you have to use them sometimes. Especially as the alternatives are do nothing or go to war.
Idealistic opinion not grounded in the unfortunately harsh reality of what is required here. The alternatives are do nothing, or go to war. Sanctions are the best bet from the limited number of shitty options. Doing nothing can result in greater loss of life and further invasions from Russia, and going to war would produce a disastrous and even potentially cataclysmic death toll.
It’s fine taking a contrarian opinion, but it carries weight only if you have a viably effective alternative. Rather than just an ideological objection. Do you?
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So you agree the sanction on Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Cuba?
Or only if it aligns with your country's view?
where... or "Who" draws the line?
Not surprising when you know that the Soviet Union invaded those islands AFTER Japan announced its surrender. In other words and by definition, the land was annexed illegally after a ceasefire and then Japanese citizens were forced out of the land. No wonder why there is no formal peace agreeement between Japan and the Soviet/Russians since.
I almost forgot about the South Korean presidential election. We will see how this will pan out.
Are you asking me if I agree with every case of sanctions ever brought? You may as well ask me if I agree with every case of military action, or every vote in parliament. My understanding was that we were taking about the war in Ukraine, and the sanctions on Russia. Which yes, I absolutely agree with. But because there are other cases of sanctions I may not agree with, does not mean I disagree with sanctions being used. It’s dependent on the circumstances and absolutely has to be judged case by case. I am lost as to the point you are trying to make.
Sanctions have been applied properly and improperly in the past in my view, and in this case I believe properly.
So, it looks like #IStandWithPutin is trending on Twitter... 
Russian propaganda?
Russian propaganda?
My point is that, if "specifically targeting civilians" is wrong, it doesn't matter which country did it, or against which country. Wrong is wrong.
You can't claim "oh it's wrong, but in this case it's against Putin so it's a-ok"
This is a very slippery slope.
https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=27931&LangID=E
GENEVA (8 December 2021) - Unilateral sanctions hurt all and are particularly harmful to the human rights of women, children and other vulnerable groups within the populations of countries targeted by the sanctions, an independent expert appointed by the UN Human Rights Council said today.
“We already know that unilateral sanctions prevent the populations of targeted countries from fully enjoying their human rights; and that the impact is especially severe for vulnerable groups,” said Alena Douhan, the Special Rapporteur on the negative impact of unilateral coercive measures on the enjoyment of human rights.
“Besides women and children, these groups include indigenous people, people with disabilities, refugees, internally displaced persons, migrants, people living in poverty, the elderly, people affected by severe diseases and others who confront particular challenges in society,” she said.
Vulnerable groups are often those who rely and depend the most on social or humanitarian aid, but the aid very often can’t be supplied because of sanctions, despite existing exemptions. “The complexity of sanctions regulations, combined with extraterritorial enforcement and heavy penalties, have led to widespread over-compliance with unilateral sanctions by entities out of fear of the consequences of inadvertent violations breaches,” Douhan said.
“Because of this, banks are reticent to finance aid or process transactions for humanitarian purchases, and transport companies refuse to handle shipments of humanitarian goods. Humanitarian NGOs have sometimes stopped operating in sanctioned countries because of these difficulties.”
The Special Rapporteur notes that sanctions often include fuel embargoes and prevent targeted countries from getting parts to maintain essential life-supporting infrastructure, such as the food, water, sanitation, health and electricity supply systems. “This is the case when a country can’t obtain fuel, medicines and medical equipment can’t be delivered and people can’t reach hospitals for medical care, including for tests and control in the course of pregnancies, for delivering babies, for vaccination of children and getting medical aid.
“Besides impeding the transport of people and goods like food, the lack of fuel and the inability to get spare parts hurts electric power generation, preventing electric pumps from supplying water for drinking and sanitation,” she said.
“Women in particular are impacted heavily. They are the ones that often have to go to obtain clean water for their families, and when sanctions cause economic activity to decline they are typically the first to lose their jobs and be targeted by traffickers for sexual exploitation.”
She further noted that this can cause a country targeted by unilateral sanctions to slide backward on the development scale, and warned that sanctions may be a major threat preventing targeted countries from achieving the universal Sustainable Development Goals that are meant to improve the lives of everyone, and especially the lives of women, girls, elderly, people with severe or chronic diseases.
“I reiterate my call, from a human rights point of view, to the United Nations, NGOs and other humanitarian actors to focus attention actively on vulnerable groups in sanctioned countries through ongoing monitoring and assessments of their human rights consequences,” Douhan said. “I urge them to intensify their engagement through collaborating where possible and developing greater solidarity to ensure that the necessary humanitarian support gets through.
“Last but not least, I call on States and Governments that impose unilateral sanctions to lift or minimize them as required by international law; to take all measures necessary to avoid the adverse effect on human rights of unilateral sanctions; to take all necessary measures to avoid over compliance with sanctions regimes; to provide broader exemptions, simpler procedures, and to facilitate, in spite of sanction regimes, the delivery of humanitarian aid.”
GENEVA (8 December 2021) - Unilateral sanctions hurt all and are particularly harmful to the human rights of women, children and other vulnerable groups within the populations of countries targeted by the sanctions, an independent expert appointed by the UN Human Rights Council said today.
“We already know that unilateral sanctions prevent the populations of targeted countries from fully enjoying their human rights; and that the impact is especially severe for vulnerable groups,” said Alena Douhan, the Special Rapporteur on the negative impact of unilateral coercive measures on the enjoyment of human rights.
“Besides women and children, these groups include indigenous people, people with disabilities, refugees, internally displaced persons, migrants, people living in poverty, the elderly, people affected by severe diseases and others who confront particular challenges in society,” she said.
Vulnerable groups are often those who rely and depend the most on social or humanitarian aid, but the aid very often can’t be supplied because of sanctions, despite existing exemptions. “The complexity of sanctions regulations, combined with extraterritorial enforcement and heavy penalties, have led to widespread over-compliance with unilateral sanctions by entities out of fear of the consequences of inadvertent violations breaches,” Douhan said.
“Because of this, banks are reticent to finance aid or process transactions for humanitarian purchases, and transport companies refuse to handle shipments of humanitarian goods. Humanitarian NGOs have sometimes stopped operating in sanctioned countries because of these difficulties.”
The Special Rapporteur notes that sanctions often include fuel embargoes and prevent targeted countries from getting parts to maintain essential life-supporting infrastructure, such as the food, water, sanitation, health and electricity supply systems. “This is the case when a country can’t obtain fuel, medicines and medical equipment can’t be delivered and people can’t reach hospitals for medical care, including for tests and control in the course of pregnancies, for delivering babies, for vaccination of children and getting medical aid.
“Besides impeding the transport of people and goods like food, the lack of fuel and the inability to get spare parts hurts electric power generation, preventing electric pumps from supplying water for drinking and sanitation,” she said.
“Women in particular are impacted heavily. They are the ones that often have to go to obtain clean water for their families, and when sanctions cause economic activity to decline they are typically the first to lose their jobs and be targeted by traffickers for sexual exploitation.”
She further noted that this can cause a country targeted by unilateral sanctions to slide backward on the development scale, and warned that sanctions may be a major threat preventing targeted countries from achieving the universal Sustainable Development Goals that are meant to improve the lives of everyone, and especially the lives of women, girls, elderly, people with severe or chronic diseases.
“I reiterate my call, from a human rights point of view, to the United Nations, NGOs and other humanitarian actors to focus attention actively on vulnerable groups in sanctioned countries through ongoing monitoring and assessments of their human rights consequences,” Douhan said. “I urge them to intensify their engagement through collaborating where possible and developing greater solidarity to ensure that the necessary humanitarian support gets through.
“Last but not least, I call on States and Governments that impose unilateral sanctions to lift or minimize them as required by international law; to take all measures necessary to avoid the adverse effect on human rights of unilateral sanctions; to take all necessary measures to avoid over compliance with sanctions regimes; to provide broader exemptions, simpler procedures, and to facilitate, in spite of sanction regimes, the delivery of humanitarian aid.”
The countries you are talking about all have some sort of mandatory conscription during emergencies.
This means that by going full war you are killing civilians that are forced to be soldiers.
Basically, you cannot wage war, economic or military, without the civilian population suffering severely. It is a nice ideal but not possible.
When you decontextualise any action from the situation it occurs in, it is extremely easy to make ideological dogmatic statements like “wrong is wrong”. Unfortunately, all actions occur within a context, so statements like yours aren’t even worth the paper they are written on, or the eye movement required to read them.
It’s either intentionally dogmatic, or unintentionally simple minded.
So out of interest now that Russia are banned from SWIFT but joining whatever the alternative is, what will that mean? Is their economy actually in danger or that all bluster and they'll be okay? They have oil n things, can't be that bad
I was about to say the same. Do those people even realize that we are in a situation where sanctions is the better choice compared to waging war? I can hold a sign that says "I'm with stupid", and the UN would appropriately deserve being pointed at after reports like that.
They need SWIFT to fund things like trade and the alternatives won't go anywhere near filling the void from what I read.
What if the 3 years old with cancer is Russian? Her meds are sanctioned so she can't get it?
Oh, it's ok. It's Russia
It's not whataboutism, for me civilian is civilian, russian, Korean, Yemeni, American, Iraqis, civilian are civilian.
Your use of the word economy is very confusing.
Germany will send another 2700 anti air missiles named „Strela“ to aid Ukraine, some old ground to air defense system, but I guess the more the better. Those are of DDR stocks and seem to do their job in the whole world till today, so nothing highly sophisticated yet easy to work with, which seems reasonable. Funny thing is, it‘s of sovjet production.
Good stuff, remarkable shift in policy
edited because I read more about it. Still good imo. They’re old but not shabby.
Yeah just read it myself. I like the irony of using old DDR equipment from the Sovjets against Russia.
Well done Germany. Well bloody done. Am sure the cnut is feeling the heat. Hope he never makes it out of his bunker and lets the world live in peace.