Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch

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I said it from the first game - it's not Pochettino doing anything. PSG has individual brilliance - there's no cohesion in that team, at least not something that remotely resembles Klopp's Liverpool or Pep's City. He's not the right man to take United further.
 
They were great last night. Completely dominated Real Madrid. Pochettino with his "basic tactics". You've got to laugh.

We'll regret it if he goes Real because he'll probably win some stuff this season at PSG, win stuff at Real, then the narrative will be completely different and everyone will be calling for Arnold's head when we win feck all.

This has aged well. Said again and again - PSG looks without any cohesion and togetherness in their play on the pitch. They didn't look good in the first leg, rather had a lot of individuals spark on the same night. Pochettino is not the right man to hire for us.
 
This has aged well. Said again and again - PSG looks without any cohesion and togetherness in their play on the pitch. They didn't look good in the first leg, rather had a lot of individuals spark on the same night. Pochettino is not the right man to hire for us.
They did look good in the first leg, thanks to the high press+Mbappé and our own fault. Yesterday we *made them* look good(except Mbappé, who is simply the best player on earth) right until we didn't
 
He's a brilliant manager, world class even. People saying otherwise don't know what they're talking about. He just needs time at PSG. Enough time for us to sign Ten Hag instead of him.
 
Watching them last year it was pretty evident that the key weakness was that they didn't have enough graft with Neymar and Mbappe offering nothing defensively. I suspected during the summer that adding Messi to that would weaken them and not make them stronger.

People are quick to attack Pochettino, but I suspect he'd prefer the team Tuchel had over what he's got now.

They're basically a better functioning version of United, footballing decisions are made for commercial reasons rather than footballing ones.
 
He's a brilliant manager, world class even. People saying otherwise don't know what they're talking about. He just needs time at PSG. Enough time for us to sign Ten Hag instead of him.
I see what are you doing. :D
 
Watching them last year it was pretty evident that the key weakness was that they didn't have enough graft with Neymar and Mbappe offering nothing defensively. I suspected during the summer that adding Messi to that would weaken them and not make them stronger.

People are quick to attack Pochettino, but I suspect he'd prefer the team Tuchel had over what he's got now.

They're basically a better functioning version of United, footballing decisions are made for commercial reasons rather than footballing ones.

Wouldn't even go that far. We're neck and neck with them when we have played them and according to UEFA club coefficients have been for almost 10 years now. The only difference being we actually won something almost worth winning in that time (Europa League), and we have to play our weekly games in a much harder league.
 
Think he set them well for both games against RM, but maybe was slow to react to everything that was happening in the 2nd half. Think that was main criticism of Poch at Spurs as well, like vs Juventus in 2018 if I remember correctly.

Poch just looked stunned at 3-1, not his fault that team completely stopped playing but that was hard to watch.

Real Madrid on the other side really are a team full of winners. Benzema with 3 goals, Modrić with that fantastic run through PSG players and great pass to the left, which later resulted into goal. They are a team filled with some old players but world class players as well.
 
He's a brilliant manager, world class even. People saying otherwise don't know what they're talking about. He just needs time at PSG. Enough time for us to sign Ten Hag instead of him.

Haha, well played
 
He moved out of the hotel about 3 months ago. He lives with his family, including a son (who plays for Watford ??) in the 8th district of Paris... He was at the hotel for a long time because he couldn't find a house that suits the whole family. But it is true that both his wife and his son still need to be in London a lot.
Julian Laurens said last night that he’s still in a hotel.
 
Why would anyone oppose Poch as our manager ?? Our club and him are perfect fit. Anyone talking otherwise doesnt know shit about football. A mediocre manager managing a mediocre club for mediocre result. It is match made in heaven :p
 
Come July, he'll be back in England managing some PL club. United, Tottenham, Everton, Leicester, even Arsenal though Arteta will surely keep his job after securing top 4.
 
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But he got PSG to the Champions League final and if I'm not mistaken, his win percentage at PSG was also better than Pochettino's.
That is correct. However I don't see any manager around that can get the best out of every world class players at PSG and guide them to CL glory, aside from Pep because he is an exceptional manager, has an excellent record when he has money at his disposal and has a deep connection with Messi. To anyone other than Pep, Messi only adds more pressure to the manager while at his current state he is not exactly single handedly carrying PSG. I'm not saying that we should go for Poch. If anything, his time at PSG spells caution. If he can't handle those egos at PSG, chances are he can't do it at United unless if we have a massive clear out. But in the terms of quality, he is a quality manager, just like Tuchel.
 
They didn’t finish second to Leicester they finished second to Chelsea. Like I said above there are risks with both Poch or ETH, the idea that a guy who has done a good job at Ajax is clearly better than a guy that got Tottenham to a Champions League final and an 86 point finish in the Premier League whilst barely spending anything is really funny, especially considering how Poch was seen in the same way ETH until recently.

Spurs never got close to their CL run, which can always happen in any cup competition. Nor did they ever get close to their 2nd place position im the league. Those are false dawns.

They were never close to improving or equalling those standards...and that's an indictment on the manager just as much as it is on the players. They were one hit wonders yet didn't even win anything.

Spurs recruitment has been more about Levy and the club rather than the manager. That is clear as day. You really think having a spine of Lloris, Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Dembele, Walker/Tripper, Erikson, Son, Kane, etc was all down to Pochettino?
 
I think they will sack him and we will get him because we don't have to pay compensation......... He will be here 3 years and do absolutely feck all.

Ten Haag is the man we need IMO.
 
Talk sport suggesting he could be sacked at any moment today.

If he is, I really hope United don't go for him for this reason.

Ten Hag is probably the best choice for us and we should be patient. This club has proven all its decisions in the last 10 years have all be poorly thought out and reactionary from desperation and poor business and football modelling.
It would be hilarious that he won’t win the league again in that case. Two years managing in a farmers league with PSG and no league title. Bloody hell. How would you even explain that and make a case for such a manager or make a case for yourself in the next job ?

Interviewer- So Mauricio you managed PSG with the likes of mbappe, neymar, messi Verratti etc. You won a lot of trophies there I guess ?
Poch - Errr, yeah I won the French cup there
Int. - No, I mean big trophies like the champions league
Poch - No, City thrashed us the first time
Int. - And in the second year?
Poch - Almost made it to the QF before I bottled it v Madrid in the last 30 minutes.
Int. - Rightttt, Atleast you won Ligue 1 back to back so that’s something.
Poch - No actually, I almost won it in the second year but I got sacked before I actually won it.
Int. - okayyy (silence ) but you did win it in the first year surely, right ? Right ??
Poch - Yes (sips water). Almost but Lille pipped us, Galtier was amazing. Anyways, enough about me, did I get the job?
Int. - Well poch, you almost got it but just like your CV, bottled it.
 
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A lot of fans seem to have set their hearts on the Ajax boss and i like the idea that's been put forward of transitioning to a more progressive style of football. Based on the admittedly very few games i've seen Ajax play and the ideas he seems to promote, he'd be my first choice.

However, I still wouldn't completely write off Poch. If we do get him i'll support him and hope for the best and I hope our fan base gets behind him, even though it seems to be getting more and more negative about him.

The state of the club has been very toxic since....well, going back to Jose really, and i'd argue that it wouldn't take long for people to start calling for Poch's head if he went on a bad run/slow start. Get the feeling Poch would be on thin ice from the moment he came here, which is a bit sad.
 
Poch won the 2017 Premier League trophy, so maybe worth a punt on him.
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its funny we all sort of thought regardless of what happens this season with PSG, the squad is top heavy and really unbalanced and it would be impossible to make that front three work, he was never going to win CL etc, that once that has come to pass its resulted in the club dropping all Poch coverage.
 
I've started to believe we'll actually go for him.

But it's mainly based on reading posts on here - by people who seem convinced of it.

Which is very silly, obviously.

But now I can't shake the feeling.
 
Seen a report now, where United may have distanced themselves from Poch based on last night's disaster.
 
Poch won the 2017 Premier League trophy, so maybe worth a punt on him.

You mean the Premier League trophy that isn't actually the Premier League trophy?

Yeah, I believe he did win that one (though he may have bottled it at the last minute, I don't quite remember).
 
He's a brilliant manager, world class even. People saying otherwise don't know what they're talking about. He just needs time at PSG. Enough time for us to sign Ten Hag instead of him.


I like this mindset I hope PSG are reading this :lol:
 
It would be typical of this club to hire someone that's spent the last 14 months holed up in a Travel Tavern and failed spectacularly with the most expensively assembled team in history.

He'll be less successful than JoMo.
 
Seen a report now, where United may have distanced themselves from Poch based on last night's disaster.
Only an idiot would base a managerial appointment for the coming years on one single result.

And that is why I can definitely believe that this is something our decision makers would do.
 
Claiming confirmation bias can be used anytime something matches a preconception. This guy already has a reputation as a bottler, this doesn't help. Even after the first goal, they still had to concede 2 more goals to lose. Is it not the manager's job to try and prevent the team from capitulating? It's not even a one-time thing, he was just as passive when PSG went out to City last season.

I'm not trying to turn this into an Ole conversation, but if Ole was managing PSG today, would you make the same excuse?

Yet here we are. When we defended like imbeciles and practically kicked the ball into our own net then, yes, I expressed a view that some things are out of a manager’s control. Just like that first goal, which led to the collapse, was completely out of Pochettino’s control. Just like it was out of Ferguson’s control that time the referee gave Nani a red card in the Champions League quarter final. We went on to lose a tie we didn’t look like losing.

I don’t care who we sign on as manager (as long as it isn’t that tit, Rodgers), so I have no loyalty to Pochettino here. I think he was a bit unlucky last night.
 
It would be typical of this club to hire someone that's spent the last 14 months holed up in a Travel Tavern and failed spectacularly with the most expensively assembled team in history.

He'll be less successful than JoMo.
He will repeat the trick at United too. He had few good season with loser Spud and media linking him to top jobs in football. He is just Argie Rodgers.
 
To rate Pochettino, you first need to rate PSG. Did Tuchel have them playing wonderful football and win the CL? No, he was sacked. Could Pep or Klopp do it? Perhaps better, most likely yes, but probably it would end in a big crash of cultures. Managing PSG means you have to motivate Messi, Neymar and to a lesser degree Mbappe up from 1/10 to 6/10 against teams like Brest and Angers. The chances of Messi knowing any player from these teams is like zero to none. Then you play in the CL on the back of winning and not caring against unknown players in a league you win by default unless something special happens. Tuchel started the rot last season, Pochettino wasn’t able to fix it, Tuchel went to Chelsea and won the CL.

Point is, it doesn’t matter if you’re as great as Sir Alex or as terrible as Solskjær, managing PSG is a different sport and it’s difficult to compare it to other teams and leagues. In my opinion, the best manager for PSG isn’t one of the best in the world - perhaps they are better suited with a former, younger player, who knows if it’s possible for them to take the final step.

Poch never should have taken the job, but it says little about his chances in the next one.
 
To rate Pochettino, you first need to rate PSG. Did Tuchel have them playing wonderful football and win the CL? No, he was sacked. Could Pep or Klopp do it? Perhaps better, most likely yes, but probably it would end in a big crash of cultures. Managing PSG means you have to motivate Messi, Neymar and to a lesser degree Mbappe up from 1/10 to 6/10 against teams like Brest and Angers. The chances of Messi knowing any player from these teams is like zero to none. Then you play in the CL on the back of winning and not caring against unknown players in a league you win by default unless something special happens. Tuchel started the rot last season, Pochettino wasn’t able to fix it, Tuchel went to Chelsea and won the CL.

Point is, it doesn’t matter if you’re as great as Sir Alex or as terrible as Solskjær, managing PSG is a different sport and it’s difficult to compare it to other teams and leagues. In my opinion, the best manager for PSG isn’t one of the best in the world - perhaps they are better suited with a former, younger player, who knows if it’s possible for them to take the final step.

Poch never should have taken the job, but it says little about his chances in the next one.
Tuchel did have them playing wonderful football. He got to the final and he refused to sign a new deal which is why they got rid. He was a lot better than Poch
 
I’m almost 90% certain we will get him.
Simply because it’s the easiest and cheapest choice for our board to make.
 
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