Westminster Politics

Where is his statue going and whos paying for it ?
 
It’s the same type of people who blame Labour for things despite them not being in power for 12 years.
While it was very rare there were stories in the last election of labour activists going door knocking and voters saying they are going to vote in the Tories in order to kick out a Corbyn government.
 
While Boris Johnson is a tool, replacing him with Jeremy fecking Hunt, chief NHS destroyer, is political suicide for the Tories.

They better be careful who they pick as a successor or the next election is going to be an abomination.
 
That's not a good way to measure electability on a national scale when you consider the fact that Corbyn also has won huge landslides in his constituency .
My point is that in a General Election, you're not voting a PM into power unless you live in their constituency. And people shouldn't be put off voting for their local Labour candidate because of whoever is in charge of the party at the time of the election regardless.
 
While it was very rare there were stories in the last election of labour activists going door knocking and voters saying they are going to vote in the Tories in order to kick out a Corbyn government.
There was that video where they had a bunch of Brummies in a room talking about voting intentions before the last election, and there was that guy in there who said he wasn't voting for Labour because Corbyn was unelectable. When they asked him who he voted for in 2017, and he said Labour. He then said that he was voting for the Tories because Johnson was an everyman who 'told it like it is'. Except when he just blatantly and repeatedly lied, like.
 
I know, right! There are zero ulterior motives from anyone in government or in this thread, right?

I think most people in here are honest in hating the Tories and wanting them out. That's certainly how I feel.

He's only changed his mind now because it's his mate in the confidence vote and if he's forced out he knows no other Tory leader would have him anywhere near their cabinet.
 
Only people who I know that don't like him were staunch Corbynistas who want the party to move as far to the left as possible.
We have plenty of evidence that Corbyn's Labour manifesto for the 2019 election was very popular with the public. Sadly, Corbyn himself was demonised by the Tory newspapers since the moment he looked like he could win the leadership, in an ultimately very effective manner. Really, all we needed Starmer to do was carry on with that manifesto at the heart of his party and put a more establishment-friendly face to it. I'd be more than happy with that, as I care more for the policies than the figurehead. Unfortunately it seems he's steering further and further away from it.
 
Fantastic result!!! :drool: the man is dead in the water and could now lose commons votes as the rebellion twists the knife. He's finished :drool:
 
Mogg has to be the most punchable cnut I've ever seen in Politics. I'd struggle to control myself around him. I really would want to slap the head off him. Pompus prick.
As much as I agree with you, it's his ruddy constituents that are to blame. How can they vote for him? He's a living caricature of the over privileged and that's one of his better qualities. But people are happy to be represented by him.
 
We have plenty of evidence that Corbyn's Labour manifesto for the 2019 election was very popular with the public. Sadly, Corbyn himself was demonised by the Tory newspapers since the moment he looked like he could win the leadership, in an ultimately very effective manner. Really, all we needed Starmer to do was carry on with that manifesto at the heart of his party and put a more establishment-friendly face to it. I'd be more than happy with that, as I care more for the policies than the figurehead. Unfortunately it seems he's steering further and further away from it.

Corbyn's election campaign in 2019 was utter shite as well which really didn't help. Either way, he's gone now, he's not coming back. Unfortunately he had his chance and between him, his mates and the saboteurs they royally fecked it up.

What they ought to do is find someone with some kind of actual principles but who isn't an idealist and has a semblance of personality. An actual centre left candidate would be good, perhaps Thornberry or Burnham. Unfortunately I think Boris is going to be an open goal for the Silent Knight to trip over his own shoelaces into no.10 though. As somebody said previously, the curry thing is a quite blatant stitch up but it couldn't happen to a nicer bloke, hope he gets stiffed.
 
There was that video where they had a bunch of Brummies in a room talking about voting intentions before the last election, and there was that guy in there who said he wasn't voting for Labour because Corbyn was unelectable. When they asked him who he voted for in 2017, and he said Labour. He then said that he was voting for the Tories because Johnson was an everyman who 'told it like it is'. Except when he just blatantly and repeatedly lied, like.
Tbh with people like that I tend to find they are always looking for any excuse to Tory, I wouldn’t believe what he said about his vote in 2017. Still there was a element in the last election of people being demoralised about the chances of labour winning and thus didn’t turn out to vote.

Still the biggest issues for left wing politics(I’ve seen very little from Starmer labour to suggest they would be better than this current government)is structural. Everything from the generational divide to low unionised work forces. While right wing media does play a role, in the end the Tories have electoral advantages and a social base that as long as house prices stay high will continue to vote for them.
 
He also said before the results that he won't do that again and he has learnt his lesson... You won't find that tweet though

He wont stab the leadership in the back now he's part of the leadership himself? How truly fascinating
 
Durham police announcing result of their investigation tomorrow.

We could see Starmer going sooner than no-confidence Johnson. Bonkers
 
We have plenty of evidence that Corbyn's Labour manifesto for the 2019 election was very popular with the public. Sadly, Corbyn himself was demonised by the Tory newspapers since the moment he looked like he could win the leadership, in an ultimately very effective manner. Really, all we needed Starmer to do was carry on with that manifesto at the heart of his party and put a more establishment-friendly face to it. I'd be more than happy with that, as I care more for the policies than the figurehead. Unfortunately it seems he's steering further and further away from it.

I think they loved the font it was printed in. The feel of card it was printed on and the the fact it was easily recycled deeply impressed. On the other hand what it said and voting for it might to some seem slightly less popular given the humiliating record defeat to possibly the worst opposing candidate ever to stand for election. As if that is evidence of anything.

Yes, some people might call that the point of a manifesto but lets not bogged down in outdated thinking. In every other way than getting people to vote for it, it was a majestically scented, tactile, beautifully proportioned work of art.