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He won’t win. But he’s a monumental gambler and that is his only way out. He’s also a huge narcissist who will think he will win.
I know this place can be defeatist and with god reason when it comes to the Tories.
But this was a disaster of a result, the worst case scenario for the Conservatives was a narrow win and Johnson limping on. He's utterly toxic, he'll lose the next election if he clings on until then.
But this was a disaster of a result, the worst case scenario for the Conservatives was a narrow win and Johnson limping on. He's utterly toxic, he'll lose the next election if he clings on until then.
Boris is a buffoon, but Labour with Starmer in change is un-voteable.
What? Why?
Why?
Starmer coming across as so incredibly false here. Let them attack themselves ffs - the whole thing spins itself - we don’t need you ramming it down our throats.
Well that caf poster got banned for the 15th time last week so he's gotta write it somewhere.The U.K. might not thank me, but get the contract out, put it on the table, let him sign it, let him write whatever numbers he wants to put on there -- given what he's done since he's come in -- and let him sign the contract and go
Boris is at the wheel, man -- he's doing his thing. The Tories are back!
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Starmer been working on his loud angry voice I see. Burnham like.
I trust him even less that Boris, but I could never vote for the Tory's so I would have to vote for Labour.
How do they know this? I thought it was an anonymous ballot?
Amazing how people can say this. He’s never even been in power and yet he’s trusted less than the guy who lies for a living? People said the same about Corbyn. It’s bollocks.
Sorry, but how the feck can you trust Starmer less than Johnson?
That is mental.
Even people that are friends with Johnson acknowledge he's a liar and dishonest
fair point
He's just using the assumption every MP on the payroll has voted in favour of Boris which is disingenuous really.
"draw a line"
Take a shot everytime that is said
Take a shot everytime that is said
Math. They know how many are on the payroll and it's a safe assumption most of them will have backed Boris. It won't be far off 75% of backbenchers.
No idea why people don’t like Starmer. I’ve heard it from mates etc too.
Hmm fair point.
Only people who I know that don't like him were staunch Corbynistas who want the party to move as far to the left as possible.
Same, then again some of them keep quoting the Saville lie.
This Blackpool MP - “You can’t have all your MPs with you all of the time” - 148 of his own MPs think he’s unfit to be prime minister ffs
It shows you how influential the media is in this country.
The vast majority of it is right wing and they just drip feed nonsense and lies about Starmer and loads of people fall for it.
When you actually ask people why they don't trust or like Starmer they have feck all reasons usually. It's just stuff like "oh he looks shifty" or " they're all as bad as each other"
God it was so painful. Safe to say it needs more work. I was more convincing this morning when trying to motivate my son that Monday was a ‘day to shine’ when he couldn’t be arsed to get out of bed
Plenty in 2019 disliked Boris but disliked Corbyn more and voted Tory.
A fair proportion of the next Labour vote will be based on people thinking Starmer is less bad than Boris. There's no way any party gets 14 million true believers to vote for them every 5 years.
A significant win for Boris
never voted Tory in my life and never will.
I can accept if I am wrong in my opinions, this is why I don't really do politics, because has you can clearly see I know feck all about it, so I don't bother.
He talks like he is still in court and would get interrupted by the judge for breaching etiquette for being too loud.
Yeah that’s basically what I’ve found. I won’t pretend to know lots about him but he comes across pretty sincere to me whenever I’ve heard him speak. Working class background, did an actual job, all good signs compared to rolling off the Eton production line like most of the current crop.
I can understand the notion that Starmer is boring, uncharismatic and unappealing but he has almost no record, the man is just bland. How can anyone distrust him more than Boris?
There’s no way around this, this is a hugely embarrassing result for Johnson, with a higher % of his own MPs voting against him compared to May in December 2018.
Take out the MPs on the government payroll, and this really hammers home how deeply unpopular he is with his own back benchers. Hopefully he has been mortally wounded.
I can’t forgive him for this antics during the EU referendum, amongst many other things, so in a political sense I hope he suffers as much pain and humiliation as possible.
Take out the MPs on the government payroll, and this really hammers home how deeply unpopular he is with his own back benchers. Hopefully he has been mortally wounded.
I can’t forgive him for this antics during the EU referendum, amongst many other things, so in a political sense I hope he suffers as much pain and humiliation as possible.
This is exactly why people don’t trust him, he’s oratory delivery comes across as guarded. In comparison to Boris, who delivers his bullshit with such gusto that people see it as honest man-of-the-people stuff
You should be on Sky. Great effort.
This is me and I will admit it, I don't really understand politics.
Maybe I should start to understand it more
Which month was it pal make your mind up.
Fair play for admitting it
It’s weird because they basically peddle one continuous lie about a Labour leader and it sticks whereas the Tory in charge has scandal after scandal and it’s somehow water off a duck’s back.
I think Macron was fully aware , that's why he was visiting Putin for months beforehand. One thing about Macron is that he's not stupid or weak. Anyway another discussion as you say.
I think, no matter how bad the Conservatives get, Labour would still lose a GE because I don't see the current Labour leadership being convincing as being able to lead the country as the public will vote the Tories in yet again. The Tories are so bad but they can't believe their luck that Corbyn and Starmer have led the opposition.
Labour need a leader who doesn't look as wet as water and has some sort of personality to attract voters.
I'm not really talking about policy.
This fecker.