I'm always amazed at how dirty politics can get. Mafia-esque stuff, but without the physical violence.
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I'm always amazed at how dirty politics can get. Mafia-esque stuff, but without the physical violence.
But this is a minister, charged with negotiating budgets, staff and engagement with other departments and private businesses, include those from abroad. That's diplomacy.
If this is how they negotiate, no wonder we're seeing strikes across the board.
There is a massive power disparity between the two.
You have no idea of the details but yet assume she is "attracted to power" rather than being manipulate or lied to by one of the he biggest liars in UK politics?
What has led you to this conclusion? Reading the Daily Mail maybe...
People making excuses for these rotten scumbags sums up why they remain the ones in charge.
Javids PM bid is quite the joke
Okay, but isn't it reasonable to expect the education secretary to summon a better zinger than a 6 year old in a playground? After all, that's twice in a few days she's been caught on camera with this level of childish respone.
She claims it's because she got abuse but it's actually because she's angry that her gravy train has hit the buffers. Someone as talentless and unlikeable as her won't be getting the same opportunities under the next leader, that's why the likes of her and Dorries are so upset.
Thought this would be in here by now
He's a nob, he's said some horrific shite in the last few years so feck that twat.
I am more surprised when there is an innocent explanation for this kind of stuff with the Tory Party. Happy to be corrected though, thank you.
I saw the cnut is committed to the Rwanda policy. How the feck that idiot can go on about his poor immigrant family roots while wanting to feck over future refugees and migrants is a joke.
Hes always been a cnut. He thinks he has to compensate for being asian so he tries to say anti immgrant things and takes weird stances. Proper dickhead.
https://news.sky.com/story/sajid-ja...ian-paedophile-comment-oversensitive-11547909
Who are your favourite Tories past and present? Surely got to be a few ok ones in there?
Im too young to remember him as PM but for a Tory I quite like John Major. He has regularly held this Tory government to account in recent years and is usually one of the first to call them out.
Im too young to remember him as PM but for a Tory I quite like John Major. He has regularly held this Tory government to account in recent years and is usually one of the first to call them out.
If it wasn't for the fact that we won't have a functioning Government until its resolved, the Tory leadership contest/debacle would be great fun.
We had a government functioning to syphon money away from the tax payers into private companies before this, so we haven't lost anything!
Is that where MeToo is 2022?
John Major might be good at calling his party out now but he was a weak PM. And to be honest I can not really remember that much about him apart from his alleged affair with Edwina Curry. Rather him than me.
Pity he didn't hold his own Government to account... became depicted as the 'Grey man' PM (Spitting Image puppet)... still his premiership gave way to Tony Blair's 3 straight Labour wins, so maybe his popping up again is a good sign...for somebody!!
New minister Lia Nici repeats Angela Rayner legs slur
A newly-appointed minister has repeated claims made against Labour's Angela Rayner that she "opened her legs" to distract Boris Johnson in the Commons.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-62113335
A newly-appointed minister has repeated claims made against Labour's Angela Rayner that she "opened her legs" to distract Boris Johnson in the Commons.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-62113335
Pass the sick bucket...
Boris Johnson resignation: Sajid Javid says prayer meeting moved him to quit
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62113401
Boris Johnson resignation: Sajid Javid says prayer meeting moved him to quit
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62113401
Was round my folks' this afternoon. We hadn't even started talking politics yet and completely out of the blue my dad goes "Have you been watching that Talk TV channel?". Oh gawd. "Its great, they just let anyone ring up to ask any question and they answer it."
I don't even know what Talk TV is at this point, but I can imagine. Of course its Rupert Murdoch's new right wing channel that Piers Morgan has run off to.
"They are completely un-bias" he says, while in almost the next breath going "They had that Michael Heseltine on trying to talk about why brexit was bad, but they wouldn't let him speak!" while chuckling happily...
Apparently he heard about it at his bridge club, where people (all 70+) were saying they were addicted to it, now he's obsessed with it as well.
I don't even know what Talk TV is at this point, but I can imagine. Of course its Rupert Murdoch's new right wing channel that Piers Morgan has run off to.
"They are completely un-bias" he says, while in almost the next breath going "They had that Michael Heseltine on trying to talk about why brexit was bad, but they wouldn't let him speak!" while chuckling happily...
Apparently he heard about it at his bridge club, where people (all 70+) were saying they were addicted to it, now he's obsessed with it as well.
I see all the new candidates are preaching lower tax economics, when the feck will they learn. I'll stick with my 40+ % tax and enjoy better services thank you. What sort of cnuts live in the UK now?
I haven't seen a single news outlet challenge them on the implications of their lower taxes. We already have health and education hanging by a thread in many cases.
The sheer power inequality makes it impossible that this was "simply 2 consenting adults and nothing to see".
Tory 101: Privatise profit and socialise debt.
I was too young to have any memory or recollection of his time in power. I just feel when he has spoken up in recent years he seems a bit more balanced and palatable.
What Tory’s would you both say are more palatable?
So it's like role-playing? I mean, if you're just gonna talk over the guest, it's not about competing arguments, it's about the catharsis of seeing someone you disagree with getting bullied by someone championing a cause you support.
It's like they are imagining themselves talking over that naive young relative that called them out on their hypocrisy last Christmas, "That's what I would have said if my dementia didn't prevent me from making congent arguments."
Indeed and the likes of the Sun are saying they're all 'vowing to cut crippling taxes'.
Javid saying he'll cut the NI raise, which he called 'fair' and 'right' in April underlines how the good of the country's finances are the last thing on any of their minds.
I honestly can't think of any. And that is not me being biased.
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I was too young to remember Major's time as PM. From what I gather the Tories were basically finished after Black Wednesday in September 1992 and putting VAT on fuel at the next budget, with Labour opening up consistent 20 point leads in the polls.
It does seem to me though that the Major-Clarke-Heseltine led administration in the mid 90s, was still far better / nowhere near as bad than / as the Cameron-Osborne-Clegg led one from 2010 onwards with excessive austerity galore.
Re the leadership, how many people had actually heard of Rehman Chishti before? Surely he's standing to ruin the chances of candidates that he doesn't like.
He will end up in the cabinet o the eventual winner if he plays it correctly. That will be his intention.
I'd have said Ken Clarke was a decent Tory, but I remember saying that to my local Labour MP, in a brief doorstep chat, and he said he couldn't forgive him for helping to disassemble the NHS back in the day.
Margaret Thatcher from April 2013 to present.
It upsets me that you have a vote.
Try to live in reality. I doubt many on the street knew who she was. Nobody was shouting abuse at her. It’s clear as day. She gave the finger to a crowd like a child, people then went mad.
You are advocating for the crowd if you actually operate in the reality everyone else is.
All this leaving aside the fact that she works for us. If most of the country is booing the exit of the worst PM we’ve ever had, she would do well to try and work out why she’s still backing him? Though doing so would see her have to snap back to base reality too.
Ah yes that makes sense.
Maybe there have been stalking horses before, but this is the first time that I haven't heard of a candidate entering a Tory or Labour leadership contest.
I had heard of Corbyn before his 2015 leadership bid, following his anti-war speech in 2003, the fact that he was known as one of the main 'back bench rebels' voting against the Labour government etc.
While Cameron had only been in parliament for just over 4 years before becoming Tory leader, I'd also heard of him beforehand as Michael Howard had previously promoted him and considered him and Osborne to be the future of the party.
I strongly disagree with Clarke on a lot of domestic policies issues, but I think he (and also John Major) is the sort of person that I could have a perfectly civilised and respectful disagreement with. While the state of the NHS definitely improved under Labour and after they significantly increased funding in it from the early 00s (it's no surprise that hospital waiting times decreased under Labour and patient satisfaction was at its highest when they were in office), I think during their first few years in office, Brown as Chancellor basically kept to the same levels of spending in the NHS as Clarke had previously done.
He was the only high profile Tory MP in parliament (and 1 of only 15 or 16 in total I think) to oppose the invasion of Iraq in 2003. While of course the Labour government at the time deserve the blame in terms of UK involvement there, the Tories enthusiastically supported them and in-fact wanted the military action to start even earlier (they disgracefully heckled Charles Kennedy when he made his speech opposing it). So I think that gives him bonus points.
Reading that Osbourne strongly believes that we should be going into another austerity programme because it worked last time.
His view is that we should slash spending, especially on Defense.
We should cut corporation tax.
And move to a significantly smaller government.
Glad he is not an MP anymore.
His view is that we should slash spending, especially on Defense.
We should cut corporation tax.
And move to a significantly smaller government.
Glad he is not an MP anymore.
Maybe with the exception of the bolded, is this not the stance of pretty much every candidate running for Tory leadership?