The outrage when a decision goes in Manchester United’s favour

The Rashford was absolutely a dive. You can see the defender pulling his thigh away from it and Rashford goes down. I’m glad it was called out by pundits and MOTD also.

Red card is a close one but can’t complain about that. Definitely went in Man Utd’s favour though.

Has to be said. Won 2 games this season and Man Utd have been heavily supported by refereeing decisions. The game they lost they were impacted by poor refereeing decisions. So you know what’s coming next week…

It shows the sheer inconsistency of VAR. Well I suppose you could argue it is actually consistently bad every week.
MOTD pundits both said it was a penalty as far as I recall, even the commentators during the game said as much also.

Not sure what pundits you are referring to here.
 
If you decide to go down (rather than being brought down), it's a dive. Not saying that's what Rashford did by the way but "contact" does not equal "foul".
Illegal contact that impedes an attacking player = foul. The trouble is that incompetent officials won’t ever give a foul in that situation unless the player goes down (and increasingly, they won’t give a foul if a player doesn’t go down screaming in agony). They’re incapable of seeing fouls without the ‘help’ of the fouled player.
 
If you decide to go down (rather than being brought down), it's a dive. Not saying that's what Rashford did by the way but "contact" does not equal "foul".

If that was on the half way line and Rashford had scooted past the player, who impeded him enough to knock him off balance and go down, then it would be a free kick and a booking for a cynical foul. I don't see why it's any difference in the penalty area. If it happened against United I'd be annoyed, but mostly at the defender for being suckered in.

It's a penalty. I'm sure Forrest will get a fair few like that this season with nimble attacker's like Johnson and MGW. They're also both partial to an exaggerated tumble, which they put to good use several times in yesterday's match.
 
It was a dive. Simple.

For some bizarre reason you can’t accept you would have zero wins this season without incorrect refereeing decisions.

Maybe being so used to favourable decisions has you blinded, which is possibly why you lot go on about decisions against you for years, like Nani and Casemiro…

Keown said it was a dive - ‘oh but that’s Keown’

Onouha said it was a dive - ‘he played for City’

Agbonlahor said it was a dive - ‘but that’s Gabby’

O’Hara said it was a dive - ‘but but but that’s Talksport’

Good grief.
 
It was a dive. Simple.

For some bizarre reason you can’t accept you would have zero wins this season without incorrect refereeing decisions.

Maybe being so used to favourable decisions has you blinded, which is possibly why you lot go on about decisions against you for years, like Nani and Casemiro…

Keown said it was a dive - ‘oh but that’s Keown’

Onouha said it was a dive - ‘he played for City’

Agbonlahor said it was a dive - ‘but that’s Gabby’

O’Hara said it was a dive - ‘but but but that’s Talksport’

Good grief.
So you conveniently forget all the pundits who said it was a penalty? OK. I mean, it clearly was a penalty, contact was 100% proved. Did Rashford make sure he went down? Probably. But you'd be screaming for a pen if that was a Chelsea player, and you know it

And you also forget the fact we'd have probably won against Spurs if the correct decisions had been made there.
 
It was a dive. Simple.

For some bizarre reason you can’t accept you would have zero wins this season without incorrect refereeing decisions.

Maybe being so used to favourable decisions has you blinded, which is possibly why you lot go on about decisions against you for years, like Nani and Casemiro…

Keown said it was a dive - ‘oh but that’s Keown’

Onouha said it was a dive - ‘he played for City’

Agbonlahor said it was a dive - ‘but that’s Gabby’

O’Hara said it was a dive - ‘but but but that’s Talksport’

Good grief.
Common denominator - They're all poor pundits, and I'm being generous including Agbonlahor under the term pundit.

You should probably spend more time watching the actual footage than listening to any of these talking about it. There's very clear contact initiated by the defender causing him to go down.
It's on the softer side of penalties and I don't think many would argue against that suggestion, but that doesn't make it a dive or an incorrect decision.
 
A bit ricc when the likes of Keown are commenting on penalties, he was the dirtiest defender in his day. He's also up Guardiola's arse and I bet if that was Jack 'the dive' Grealish Keown would have been full of praise for him 'winning' a penalty.
 
The Rashford was absolutely a dive. You can see the defender pulling his thigh away from it and Rashford goes down. I’m glad it was called out by pundits and MOTD also.

Red card is a close one but can’t complain about that. Definitely went in Man Utd’s favour though.

Has to be said. Won 2 games this season and Man Utd have been heavily supported by refereeing decisions. The game they lost they were impacted by poor refereeing decisions. So you know what’s coming next week…

It shows the sheer inconsistency of VAR. Well I suppose you could argue it is actually consistently bad every week.
So you conveniently forget all the pundits who said it was a penalty? OK. I mean, it clearly was a penalty, contact was 100% proved. Did Rashford make sure he went down? Probably. But you'd be screaming for a pen if that was a Chelsea player, and you know it

And you also forget the fact we'd have probably won against Spurs if the correct decisions had been made there.
No, I didn’t.
 
It seems like we've had enough barren years now for this place to descend properly into RAWK territory.

Rashford bought the pen yesterday, i'd rather those situations weren't penalties but in today's game it's at least a 50/50 decision and more like 80/20. How people can take umbrage at rival fans pointing it out is silly, we'd all be doing the same if it was Salah (who does that all the time by the way).
It’s a clear penalty. Just because you need your eyes tested doesn’t make this place RAWK.
 
It’s an absolute stonewaller of a penalty. His trailing leg is pushed in to his standing leg by the defender, it’s really obvious and is a penalty all day long. Any other team and nobody would even give it a second look.
 
It was a dive. Simple.

For some bizarre reason you can’t accept you would have zero wins this season without incorrect refereeing decisions.

Maybe being so used to favourable decisions has you blinded, which is possibly why you lot go on about decisions against you for years, like Nani and Casemiro…

Keown said it was a dive - ‘oh but that’s Keown’

Onouha said it was a dive - ‘he played for City’

Agbonlahor said it was a dive - ‘but that’s Gabby’

O’Hara said it was a dive - ‘but but but that’s Talksport’

Good grief.

You're clearly wumming now, so just feck off unless you have anything useful to say.

You're a disgrace to the all the other Chelsea fans that use this forum.
 
It was a dive. Simple.
There was contact so it was a penalty. Simple.

You're making it sound like Rashford dived over fresh air
 
You're clearly wumming now, so just feck off unless you have anything useful to say.

You're a disgrace along with all the other Chelsea fans that use this forum apart from @duffer.
Fixed it for you.
 
The worst Chelsea poster continuing to be a colossal weapon. Typical.
 
It was a dive. Simple.

For some bizarre reason you can’t accept you would have zero wins this season without incorrect refereeing decisions.

Maybe being so used to favourable decisions has you blinded, which is possibly why you lot go on about decisions against you for years, like Nani and Casemiro…

Keown said it was a dive - ‘oh but that’s Keown’

Onouha said it was a dive - ‘he played for City’

Agbonlahor said it was a dive - ‘but that’s Gabby’

O’Hara said it was a dive - ‘but but but that’s Talksport’

Good grief.

You have somehow managed to quote four pundits that only have 3 neurones between them.
 
Surprised there's any contention with the penalty, it's clear as day for me - gets done by rashfords speed and takes out his back leg

Can understand the red card being an argument as I'm not sure Bruno's getting the ball before Boly however for me clear professional fouls like that deserve a red regardless - it's a fckin rugby tackle
 
It would appear you prefer happy clapping from opposition fans as opposed to objective discussion. If you disagree you are now a wind up merchant. Brilliant.
 
I look forward to tomorrow when we will be first up on Ref Watch with ALL the controversial decisions at Old Trafford.
Because they were the only ones this weekend, nothing happen in any of the other games take Arsenal Fulham for example.
 
The Rashford was absolutely a dive. You can see the defender pulling his thigh away from it and Rashford goes down. I’m glad it was called out by pundits and MOTD also.

Red card is a close one but can’t complain about that. Definitely went in Man Utd’s favour though.

Has to be said. Won 2 games this season and Man Utd have been heavily supported by refereeing decisions. The game they lost they were impacted by poor refereeing decisions. So you know what’s coming next week…

It shows the sheer inconsistency of VAR. Well I suppose you could argue it is actually consistently bad every week.
:boring:
 
It would appear you prefer happy clapping from opposition fans as opposed to objective discussion. If you disagree you are now a wind up merchant. Brilliant.
Objective discussion? :lol:

You're either clearly a wum, or have absolutely no idea about football.
 
It would appear you prefer happy clapping from opposition fans as opposed to objective discussion. If you disagree you are now a wind up merchant. Brilliant.
Just because people disagree with you doesn’t mean it’s some fandom shit. Don’t come on here being condescending to our fanbase when you know it’s a minority opinion.
 
People are debating if this is a penalty. feck’s sake



He doesn’t even “throw himself down” or “make a meal of it” as I’ve seen some pundits say, he got totally cleaned out.
 
Alright, but you’ve decided today to just post an absolute nonsense to derail this thread. As asked by many people as well, why is a Leeds fan on a United forum anyway? I don’t see any of us here on Marching on Together.

Nah. I posted what I saw as a slightly embellished reading of the truth what I see as a growing trend among the Man United fan base. Check out some of the threads that have been made recently. Some Man United fans were whining that a ref team got dropped, bemoaning an anti- Man United agenda even after you lot benefitted from a decision. Then there were all sorts of statements about how the FA or PGMOL would ensure no more decisions in favour of Manchester United. The Spurs game was Proof! Then, the very next game, you get a couple of reasonable, but not gimme decisions and yet again some fans see it as yet another opportunity to launch a further round of whinging. You're one of the biggest clubs in the world*. Of course you get lots of media attention. The point when you don't and nobody gives a damn is when you should get worried. Some of your fans are developing a victim complex even when decisions are going your way. This is the football forum. Of course some opposition fans are going to put in a couple of mild digs.

*And that's why I joined, because it's by far the biggest football forum, there are loads of people from all over the shop with a huge number of perspectives and interests. Pretty sure at least 20% of forum members aren't Man Utd fans, and maybe 50% or more aren't even from the UK. Far more interesting place than one that's dedicated to one club and whose members are much more limited in scope.

Edited the strike through.
 
Nah. I posted what I saw as actually not too far from the truth. Check out some of the threads that have been made recently. Some Man United fans were whining that a ref team got dropped, bemoaning an anti- Man United agenda even after you lot benefitted from a decision. Then there were all sorts of statements about how the FA or PGMOL would ensure no more decisions in favour of Manchester United. The Spurs game was Proof! Then, the very next game, you get a couple of reasonable, but not gimme decisions and yet again some fans see it as yet another opportunity to launch a further round of whinging. You're one of the biggest clubs in the world*. Of course you get lots of media attention. The point when you don't and nobody gives a damn is when you should get worried. Some of your fans are developing a victim complex even when decisions are going your way. This is the football forum. Of course some opposition fans are going to put in a couple of mild digs.

*And that's why I joined, because it's by far the biggest football forum, there are loads of people from all over the shop with a huge number of perspectives and interests. Pretty sure at least 20% of forum members aren't Man Utd fans, and maybe 50% or more aren't even from the UK. Far more interesting place than one that's dedicated to one club and whose members are much more limited in scope.
Sorry but this is nonsense. You can’t use decisions that rightfully went our way as proof of anything. We weren’t lucky to get those decisions, we should get more of them is basically the point fans are making. This rightful penalty doesn’t even out Utd not getting an even more obvious penalty against Spurs
 
Maybe being so used to favourable decisions has you blinded, which is possibly why you lot go on about decisions against you for years, like Nani and Casemiro…
:lol: imagine seeing what happened after Klopp mouthed off and thinking this
 
Sorry but this is nonsense. You can’t use decisions that rightfully went our way as proof of anything. We weren’t lucky to get those decisions, we should get more of them is basically the point fans are making. This rightful penalty doesn’t even out Utd not getting an even more obvious penalty against Spurs

I reckon it was a penalty. The red card - I've seen 'em given, I've seen 'em not. I've seen plenty of decisions go your way. I've seen plenty of decisons go against you. What I've not really seen before (maybe I haven't been looking) is threads so frequently popping up decrying an anti Manchester United agenda regardless of outcome.
 
People are debating if this is a penalty. feck’s sake



Not sure how there is any debate on this, but then there are so many blind and deluded guys watching football, it's not a surprise.