Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!
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There are still people who underestimate Bale. The guy is only 21 and made the best right back in the world look silly. 3 goals and 2 assists against the deffending CL champion. And he would have had more assists if Spurs had world class strikers. Fantastic stuff. I'm afraid that we wouldn't be able to buy him, Spurs would want for him at least 40m.
Now he would be a real markee signing. But City have way too much money.
At the end of the day, it's up to the lad himself. He'd get far more opportunities here than he would at City in the long term.
Looking back we should have signed him in 2007. Tottenham are in a position where they can name there price. Once Chelsea & City start a bidding war for him I think we can forget about signing him.
Tbf Maicon is regarded as the best right back in the world more for his overlaps rather than for his defending.
Gareth Bale looked quite fast last night. Either he's been taking drugs, has improved his pace, or Maicon is slow as hell.
Btw... The pundits claiming he is the best RB in the world is a joke. If he was Bale wouldn't have scored 3 goals and got 2 assists against him in 2 games. Maicon = poor. Even Wes Brown had him under control ffs.
Btw... The pundits claiming he is the best RB in the world is a joke. If he was Bale wouldn't have scored 3 goals and got 2 assists against him in 2 games. Maicon = poor. Even Wes Brown had him under control ffs.
Of course Obertan and Bebe still have a long way to go but they're not going to develop by adding another winger to the mix.
So would Nani and Valencia.
There is no reason why Obertan and / or Bebe can't be as good as or better than Bale in the future and for this reason I don't think Fergie will spend £30m+ on him.
We don't need him.
I would be very, very surprised if either of those players* become as good as Bale.
*Never seen Bebe or Obertan play in my entire life.
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102 - 102 players have more assists in the Premier League than Gareth Bale (0) this season. Hype.
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102 - 102 players have more assists in the Premier League than Gareth Bale (0) this season. Hype.
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Nani is wasted on the left, and a better player than Valencia when used on the right. It's an annoyance, but it's a fact.
He's clearly not wasted on the left. If Valencia comes back and carries on in the same vain as he started his United career I still wouldn't swap Nani + Valencia for Nani + Bale.
TBF The only one of them thats naturally left sided is Park and he's hardly a line hugging winger....
Left wing and MF are the positions we need to address in the short term.
Nani is half the danger playing left wing than he is on the right. Bale + Nani I'd have any day than Nani on left with Valencia on the right. We need to secure a left footed winger sooner rather than later to replace Giggsy, whether its Bale or someone else.
He really isn't half the danger, that's just silly, he plays a different way on the left to the right but his ability with his left foot is improving all the time, as shown by his goal against Bersaspor the other week and his effort which hit the bar against Spurs, amongst others which don't immediately jump to mind.
Not to mention that he switches from wing to wing during the game anyway, which if he was half the danger he obviously wouldn't do. The fuss being made over Bale at the moment is extremely over the top, yes he's a cracking player but if he wasn't English not half the wanking would be going on. You and others are doing a big disservice to our wingers by suggesting he'd be a sudden improvement on our current set up when fit.
no-one knows how well Valencia will come back from his leg break, we all hope its back as good as before but who knows?
Park is not a winger
Obertan is an unknown quantity, 80% of the time he looks like a Jordi clone. The other 20% like a world beater.
Bebe shouldn't even come into the mix at this point in his career
Giggs is almost retired
That leaves us Nani
We have room for Bale. He is now showing consistently the type of form that many were predicting for him before he joined Spurs.
Park is not a winger
Obertan is an unknown quantity, 80% of the time he looks like a Jordi clone. The other 20% like a world beater.
Bebe shouldn't even come into the mix at this point in his career
Giggs is almost retired
That leaves us Nani
We have room for Bale. He is now showing consistently the type of form that many were predicting for him before he joined Spurs.
The difference between Nani's stats on the left and right is pretty damn high. He's a much, much better player when used on the right wing, how can you possibly argue that? Considering that right now he's the best attacking player we have, he SHOULD be used on the right.
Valencia is a top player and all, but Bale on the left and Nani on the right would be far more lethal than Nani on the left and Valencia on the right.
It's more so the fact that he's a naturally left footed winger, and a very talented one at that. We don't have any of those, every one of our wingers (bar a Giggs who'll be gone very soon) are right footed. We need the versatility.
Oh, and those Nani shots you mentioned with his left foot, I'm pretty sure he cut in from the right when he hit those
Where will we get the money from? Will have to dip into uncle Glazer's reserve. There's a snake nestled in there.
He did exactly the same things 6 times against Inter during the 2 legs.
Just shows what a Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime Benitez is.
Just shows what a Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime Benitez is.
he's young too, he's definitely got the ability to reach the top. Still, apparently he's not "special", whatever that means.
His best game in a United shirt was still on the left. His game has improved overall in the last X months and he's predominantly been played on the right this season due to Valencia's injury. His increasing consistency and general level of performance is not due to being on the right. He will be perfectly able to replicate that on the left wing when Valencia returns, which is what I expect to happen.
It's more so the fact that he's a naturally left footed winger, and a very talented one at that. We don't have any of those, every one of our wingers (bar a Giggs who'll be gone very soon) are right footed. We need the versatility.
Oh, and those Nani shots you mentioned with his left foot, I'm pretty sure he cut in from the right when he hit those
Well yea, he was playing on the right at the time, what does that have to do with the fact that he's perfectly capable of using his left foot?
I think it's absolute madness to suggest he's better than Nani.
It's not just due to the Valencia injury at all. His run of brilliant form from January onwards last season came from playing on the right, when, as I recall Valencia was benched for 3 or 4 games straight in order to accommodate him. Just because he had his best game on the left does not mean he's as good there, he's not, he said himself he much prefers playing on the right of the pitch, and it shows.
I can understand why you'd want him to be as good on the left, because nobody wants to see a player as good as Valencia benched, but I expect it to happen quite a bit even when he does return.
Because he's going to use it to shoot far less on the left maybe? it's all well and good him taking the odd shot on the right with his left foot, it's not all well and good to revert back to his previous antics on the left and start hammering shots with his right foot every opportunity he gets.
why? Bale does not pass the ball to the opposition when under no pressure. Nani is very erratic, can do the sublime just as he can do the shit. Bale is more flexible, can play lb ( needs to improvbe there ) can play left mid as well as left side forward. I would prefer Bale in my team to Nani if that was the choice I had
That's shown as flatly untrue by taking a quick glance as his assist tally.
This furious wanking over Bale is a bit tiresome but I might as well add to it with a post I made the last time he was being discussed.
When he was at So'ton, he had a reputation as a fantastic free-kick taker. He was striking the ball like a left-footed David Beckham. For some reason this part of his game hasn't really come together at Spuds but when he does start regularly spanking 25 free-kicks into the top corner, the oline self-abuse on here will reach terrifying new heights. Which is a sobering thought.
When he was at So'ton, he had a reputation as a fantastic free-kick taker. He was striking the ball like a left-footed David Beckham. For some reason this part of his game hasn't really come together at Spuds but when he does start regularly spanking 25 free-kicks into the top corner, the oline self-abuse on here will reach terrifying new heights. Which is a sobering thought.
newtonheathdave, regarding Nani v Bale in consistency and end product, this post is from Nani's main thread:
How can you even attempt to claim he isn't consistent enough with his end product? What are Bales equivalent stats?
How can you even attempt to claim he isn't consistent enough with his end product? What are Bales equivalent stats?
why is it? Milner has 4 assists this year but hes not been as consistent as Bale. Try looking at Bales chances created rather than total assists as he can only put the ball in a good area hes not responsible for putting in the net.
Also by consistent I meant in the way Bale does the right thing most of the time compared to Nani who can fluctuate between the sublime and the useless
Nani has 32 goals + assists in 32 games since January. It's an amazing output. it's a complete fecking joke to say he's not consistent anymore, considering that other than maybe Malouda he's the most consistently brilliant performing winger in the Premiership.
Bale is not on the same level as Nani, but he is 3 years younger, so it evens out I guess.
Have you seen Nani since January, just wondering...
Anyone remember his hilarious winless streak? The fact he was going to be loaned to Nottingham Forest in January until a couple of injuries hit Spurs?
If he can turn it around in under a year who knows how other players will turn out.
I may have put it across what I wanted to say. Bale does not stand on the edge of the oppositions box with men spare and pass it straight to the opposition under no pressure what so ever. Bale is a more consistent performer where as Nani is very hit and miss.
Also see the chance Bale made for Crouch last night that Crouch missed. Bales putting crosses like that over all the time, its not his fault if the strikers are missing sitters
Funny how people forget so quickly isnt it!
I watch united most games. Bale is easily on Nanis level.
What exactly can Nani do that Bale can't
I find assist stats to be almost useless when it comes to various stats-sites, because many of them are sloppy in their counting and seem to use a variety of different measures as to what constitues an assist.
My own record for Bale this season, in all competitions, shows 6 goals and 7 assists.
Yea, Nani needs to find some consistency to his game, those goals and assists just aren't good enough
If you think Bale is 'easily as good as Nani' then we're never going to agree, because he simply isn't. Yet at least.
Yea, Nani needs to find some consistency to his game, those goals and assists just aren't good enough
If you think Bale is 'easily as good as Nani' then we're never going to agree, because he simply isn't. Yet at least.
Its alright having them assists and goals, you cant argue with that. BUT what good are them stats when he gives the ball away or loses it very easily trying some fancy flick which then leads to a couter attack and a goal against.
Bale is easily as good as Nani at this moment. I asked you what you thought Nani could do that Bale can't as I can't think of anything. .
Using his right foot for anything other than standing on is the blindingly obvious one (Nani's left ain't bad by the way).