RAWK goes into Meltdown 2010/2011

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Can we just spend the rest of the day asking about Henderson and Benzema?
 
From Rawk

A twitter account has been created. It purports to belong to a 15 yo Swede and he is claiming responsibility for hacking the two users.

However as it is a newly created account and it does not tie in too well with some aspects of the hack then we are sceptical as to it's validity. In the meantime we would urge users not to respond to the twitter account or post details of it here
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Why would he lie Rawk? What could he possibly have to gain by taking responsibility for this, if anything he's opening himself up to mass abuse.
 
evra said:
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Why would he lie Rawk? What could he possibly have to gain by taking responsibility for this, if anything he's opening himself up to mass abuse.
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It may even be a RAWK poster who has made that to lend credibility to the fact that someone was hacked and to divert attention away from the fact that it might have been the opinion of their membership. You can't discount anything, but it does seem a bit bollocks that someone would create a Twitter account today purposely to admit responsibility for it. It doesn't need to be done on Twitter.
 
Mockney said:
I seem to have gained about 15 followers as a result of that...Twitter's weird.

That was a chore I'll tell you...I did actually have some sympathy for him to begin with (and still a smidgen to be fair) because being slagged off by faceless warriors on the internet is mightily frustrating, and I get it regularly when I blog, hence why I never try and do it myself. However his insistence that this constituted an agenda of some sort, and the fact he kept referring to these "threads" and the "extreme measures" and "targeting" when in fact it was just one rather mild thread (which I've never even posted in as it happens) talking about some rumours he started - rather innocently at first too - and not "threads dedicated to targeting him" became impossible to ignore. ..He did seem to have some odd delusions of importance. ..I'd never heard of him before that thread, and barely remembered him when he was brought up today, but apparently we Cafites have an agenda...Hmmmm...

He seemed to feel he'd be the victim of a coonciously organised and vicious smear campaign..as opposed to simply being called a tit by some no marks on an Internet forum with 30k members...

It just became boring after a while. The fact he'd decided he could say anything he liked about the site because "he'd been attacked" before was the crux of it. He felt righteous about it cos he'd been wronged. Didn't matter that this wronging had nothing to do with this current instant, in tone, scope, theme or ...well...everything...all that mattered was that he'd been "attacked" and therefore hadn't started it..so it became like arguing with a particularly thick brick wall...And eventually one who just completely denied he'd even said anything in the end. Initially it was "not an accusation, just an opinion" and now he's pretty much pretending he never said anything to begin with...it's odd.

And yes, I did sign off by telling him seats for the game on Sunday were by the 'Pool fans so I'd send them his moral support..But I think he'd blocked me by then....

Hey ho....Internet, serious business.
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I admit i followed you Mockney for the way you signed off to him. Consider yourself e-stalked and voted for best e-fight of 2011
 
evra said:
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Why would he lie Rawk? What could he possibly have to gain by taking responsibility for this, if anything he's opening himself up to mass abuse.
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To be fair, someone could or would do that to halt what ever investigation was going on, and to deflect attention away from someone getting suspicion...

It's all bonkers. The initial post looked like nonsense, this looks like nonsense, no one on here has done anything but laugh at the whole situation of nonsense and now we've got accusations from RAWK users, United fans and threats of Police involvement..

What a load of fecking nonsnse
 
Andersonsonson said:
I admit i followed you Mockney for the way you signed off to him. Consider yourself e-stalked and voted for best e-fight of 2011
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I've got a birthday do to go to tonight, then up at 7 to get the 8 train on Sun, I'm gonna be feeling rotten...So we better score early and shut them up or I'm not gonna be in any mood for any morality ....75k people shouting at you with a hangover's bad enough without it being Liverpool fans.
 
I have been following this since it all surfaced and find it absolutely hilarious. The way I see it, is that some moron on RAWK (I Know there are a lot of them) has posted about hsi hate of Hodgson, without really thinking about what he has written. It then appears that the mods were not happy with the post and have made his contact details public.

After recieving threats the original poster has shat himself and realised what a Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime he had been with his post. Rather than put his hands up and say "yes it was me, I wasn't thinking, I apologise", he has claimed it wasn't him, which has now caused a massive conspiracy theory on RAWK and with this fool on Twitter.

Personally I feel RAWK need to apologise for giving his details out in the first place, and just go back to talking about how much they love the FSW.
 
RAWK's only "proof" is that the post was quoted on redcafe.

Yeah. open and close case right there. :rolleyes:

Most likely a RAWK member doing the hacking. Can't believe they've instantly decided to blame the CAF.
 
Will you lot simply ignore it, and the retard?

Running around after him on Twitter and Facebook (I don't know how to use either as I've never seen the point in them) and Christ knows where else just gives him the attention that he's after.
 
Mockney said:
It's incredibly lame, I feel instantly gayer for having gotten involved.
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your involvement at least gave it some credibility and an air of logic and sense. i liked it better beforehand when it was just a couple of kids hitting trees with sticks.
 
Mockney said:
I seem to have gained about 15 followers as a result of that...Twitter's weird.

That was a chore I'll tell you...I did actually have some sympathy for him to begin with (and still a smidgen to be fair) because being slagged off by faceless warriors on the internet is mightily frustrating, and I get it regularly when I blog, hence why I never try and do it myself. However his insistence that this constituted an agenda of some sort, and the fact he kept referring to these "threads" and the "extreme measures" and "targeting" when in fact it was just one rather mild thread (which I've never even posted in as it happens) talking about some rumours he started - rather innocently at first too - and not "threads dedicated to targeting him" became impossible to ignore. ..He did seem to have some odd delusions of importance. ..I'd never heard of him before that thread, and barely remembered him when he was brought up today, but apparently we Cafites have an agenda...Hmmmm...

He seemed to feel he'd be the victim of a coonciously organised and vicious smear campaign..as opposed to simply being called a tit by some no marks on an Internet forum with 30k members...

It just became boring after a while. The fact he'd decided he could say anything he liked about the site because "he'd been attacked" before was the crux of it. He felt righteous about it cos he'd been wronged. Didn't matter that this wronging had nothing to do with this current instant, in tone, scope, theme or ...well...everything...all that mattered was that he'd been "attacked" and therefore hadn't started it..so it became like arguing with a particularly thick brick wall...And eventually one who just completely denied he'd even said anything in the end. Initially it was "not an accusation, just an opinion" and now he's pretty much pretending he never said anything to begin with...it's odd.

And yes, I did sign off by telling him seats for the game on Sunday were by the 'Pool fans so I'd send them his moral support..But I think he'd blocked me by then....

Hey ho....Internet, serious business.
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Someone get me this cnut's IP and personal details ASAP. :nono:
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
RAWK's only "proof" is that the post was quoted on redcafe.

Yeah. open and close case right there. :rolleyes:

Most likely a RAWK member doing the hacking. Can't believe they've instantly decided to blame the CAF.
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Yeah I didn't understand that part.

The fact that it got quoted on the Caf is possibly due to the fact that even United fans found this post despicable, and that the Caf has lots of Internet warriors hitting F5 waiting for the next RAWK :lol:-fest, 24/7.

The fact it got mentioned in Twitter is purely down to the fact there are thousands of United fans on Twitter, and it's about the quickest way to spread a rumour or news (look at the various celebrity death rumours).

The fact Google only picked up the Caf and Twitter mentions are purely down to the fact that Google spiders busy sites more aggressively, as their content changes more frequently. My own website gets very little Google bot traffic (and any traffic, in fact...).

Being "first to report it" is not necessarily proof of anything.
 
Ooh, looky, inter-forum cooperation...

Rushian said:
FAO RedCafe moderators reading thread (golden_blunder). One of our mods registered with your site last night so he could talk privately with your mods. He is still awaiting approval as far as I'm aware hence no contact. Another has just contacted you in the last few minutes via your contact form.

FAO others on RedCafe as there seems to be a lot of confusion (feel free to repost):

1) Two separate RAWK accounts were compromised. One Thursday night and one Friday night. Both accounts had been registered on here for many years and lads well known to moderators. Another attempt to compromise a third account was blocked.

2) The sick parody posts made re: Hodgson/Hillsborough were almost identical in nature and crucially were made from the same IP address which had never been used before on those accounts or the forum as a whole. They also stood out a mile to any LFC fan as clearly being a dig over Hillsborough.

3) Posts removed within minutes. Screen shots appeared on twitter almost simultaneously and contents similarly copy and pasted on to RedCafe and other Man Utd sites. Your moderators have deleted the first post which was copy and pasted but the second (and quotes of it) remain. We appreciate the work you do on your forum with respect to idiotic comments on both Heysel and Hillsborough, as we do with Munich references here, which isn't always replicated elsewhere.

4) This doesn't mean RedCafe/RedIssue/UnitedOnline members or the forums/websites themselves were necessarily responsible for the account compromisation. With Red Cafe it could be just a coincidence with being such a large site with so many members. With the window the posts were on this site being so small, it is probable that you have a few posters just a bit too obsessed with this site and they have F5 fever, constantly refreshing for things to copy and paste in your RAWK Meltdown thread. We used to have the same problem here with fans obsessed with your site. That is why we binned RedCafe Watch style threads a few years back and added your site to the forum filter to prevent people posting links to discourage such slightly worrying myopia.

5) With regards to the release of private details as alleged by a couple of your members (Pogue_Mahone and Zen86) - we have only once released details in 10 years of the site being active. This was to the police who were investigating a fraud re: spare tickets. The individual was successfully prosecuted. As for RAWK releasing personal details (name, address etc) not only would this be illegal and morally something we'd be utterly opposed to, but also something we couldn't do as we don't have any of that information. We only have usernames and email addresses of registered users. The first of the two hacked users was targetted offsite as he's a well known Red and the screenshots were distributed quickly by social media such as facebook.

6) The IP address in question has been traced to a third country from the current locations of both users whose accounts were hacked (one is currently serving with the Army in Afghanistan which is why we were very suspicious over the activity) and we're continuing our investigations. If a Red Cafe moderator wants the IP address to check their own forum isn't being targetted we'd be happy to pass it on in confidence.

7) If you want to get in contact by email there is a link on the front page:

The Independent Liverpool FC Website, Red and White Kop

Hope that clears up any confusion and questions.
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Follow up - RAWK, Dave Skywalker & A Hillsborough Smear
 
t is probable that you have a few posters just a bit too obsessed with this site and they have F5 fever, constantly refreshing for things to copy and paste in your RAWK Meltdown thread. We used to have the same problem here with fans obsessed with your site. That is why we binned RedCafe Watch style threads a few years back and added your site to the forum filter to prevent people posting links to discourage such slightly worrying myopia.
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Grow up, seriously. We are rival fans and it's a bit of fun if a few posters want to rib each other via the internet. Whilst I personally don't visit Rawk, I see nothing wrong with people doing so for a laugh and vice-versa.

:rolleyes:
 
"We appreciate the work you do on your forum with respect to idiotic comments on both Heysel and Hillsborough, as we do with Munich references here, which isn't always replicated elsewhere."

Is there another RAWK we're not aware of?
 
Zarlak said:
It may even be a RAWK poster who has made that to lend credibility to the fact that someone was hacked and to divert attention away from the fact that it might have been the opinion of their membership. You can't discount anything, but it does seem a bit bollocks that someone would create a Twitter account today purposely to admit responsibility for it. It doesn't need to be done on Twitter.
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:lol: there will soon be a movie about it.
 
Redlambs said:
Grow up, seriously. We are rival fans and it's a bit of fun if a few posters want to rib each other via the internet. Whilst I personally don't visit Rawk, I see nothing wrong with people doing so for a laugh and vice-versa.

:rolleyes:
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The constant stream we have is slightly worrying, especially as some times there is no reason to be there, that said the day after an event such as that defeat it is understandable to get the fallout.
 
phelans shorts said:
The constant stream we have is slightly worrying, especially as some times there is no reason to be there, that said the day after an event such as that defeat it is understandable to get the fallout.
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Why is it worrying though? If people want to waste their time doing it, it's up to them. I find it amusing at times and sad at others, but I couldn't care less if others find it funny all the time.

But to block us completely (and ban people just for being posters on here) is just childish and it's no wonder they get stick from all sides on that site.
 
SuperSub77 said:
In life, when you fall in love, it's the most wonderful feeling ever. The feeling lasts, then life and events makes it fade away, but you never forget that feeling.

Then, sometime later in life, the feeling returns and you realise what love is all about.

Shanks and Bob gave me the Liverpool feeling, the love of my club and what it means to be a red. Rafael Benitez gave that feeling of pride back to me after years of hurt.

Thank you Rafa Benitez, I for one understand how you felt about our club and us fans and fought the ego's that go against our philosophy.

I hope you feel the love. God bless you Rafa.
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3 things.

1) As far as I'm concerned fair play and well done to Rushian who's at least savvy enough to realise there are allegations (on both sides) being flung around unfoundedly, and that olive branch was appreciated, and at least a decent attempt to cover for the utter spackoid activity of Veinticinco de Mayo who stickied RAWKs response and distributed it to other LFC sites with his own unfounded, biased and baseless assumptions it was "Mancs" tacked on..Complete with references to RedCafe, leaving in no uncertain terms who he felt likely responsible for thick headed internet warriors reading to pick up on...So on that front, nice one. Some sense.

2) Can someone please take them up on their offer of an IP check so we can be done with all this silly nonsense with at least the singular upshot of some serious egg on people like yolkie's face (hey hey ba dum tsst)...Or alternatively of course we could find that some rogue warrior we're all hitherto unaware of and acting completely on his own steam has done this completely covertly with the sole intention of then posting it in this thread....which would be unbelieveably sad but clearly worthy of a banning...

3) Not wanting to be a prick, but if the post was a WUM (which I actually called from the beginning I'd like to point out) then it surely wasn't "a dig at Hillsborough" but a dig at the way a vocal section of LFC fans have reacted to Hodgson. A very tasteless one indeed, but an attack on that never the less, rather than any pop at the 96...Which is at least some small though not really-saving grace.. It was essentially just very very bad satire.
 
We all know that RAWK is a terrible forum with zero moderation. Why are they trying to pretend otherwise for christ sakes.

Now where is that michael jackson popcorn eating gif!?
 
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Seriously, Police involvement in the first week of January - by December most will be posting from Borstal.
 
:lol: This whole drama between the Caf and Yolkie is ridiculous. I'm not usually one for personal attacks, but the entire basis of his hatred of the Caf is that we didn't know who he was when he started posting ITK stuff he most likely pulled out of his ass. Rightly, we asked who he was to have such information. His response of indignation that someone didn't know who he was led to all of this.

He thinks quite highly of himself if he expects every United fan to know who he is based on his wild theories and claims. In the past day or so, it's become ridiculous. He starts slinging mud at us because we questioned him, which is entirely reasonable with ITK, based on nothing other than wild conjecture and circumstantial evidence. In the end, he's an idiot with an over-inflated ego.
 
Boy oh boy... now i know how football can bring violence at times, my blood boils with this yolkie stuff...

Lucky we're in the world of the internet, if he's infront of me dear lord have mercy, i don't.


Seriously guys, will some elder member of the caf advice me on how to control temper?
 
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How fecking dare anyone out there make fun of Yolkie after all he has been through.!

He lost his nerve, she went through an e-fight. He had two feckin twitter wars.

The mystery poster turned out to be a user, a cheater, and now he's going through a custody battle with RAWK of who own's what account. All you people care about is….. readers and making a mug out of him.

HE’S A HUMAN! (ah! ooh!) What you don’t realize is that Yolkie is making you all this recognition and all you do is write a bunch of crap about him.

He hasn’t got it right in years. His site is called FALSE10 for a reason because all you people want is FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE
LEAVE HIM ALONE! You are lucky he even wrote about you BASTARDS!
LEAVE YOLKIE ALONE!…..Please.

RAWK talked about professionalism and said if Yolkie was a professional he would’ve pulled it off no matter what.

Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publicly bash someone who is going through a hard time.

Leave Yolkie Alone Please…. !
Leave Yolkie alone!…right now!….I mean it.!

Anyone that has a problem with him you deal with me, because he is not here right now.

LEAVE HIM ALONE!
 
This doesn't mean RedCafe/RedIssue/UnitedOnline members or the forums/websites themselves were necessarily responsible for the account compromisation
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Literary genius, this guy.
 
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