Abortion

[Siorac]

Many claim it's just rational because a survey of biologists says that "human life starts at conception" and they are just protecting the rights of babies since after the moment of conception, it's basically a baby entitled to all protections as a real breathing person.

Except that they don't advocate for life insurance for fetuses.

They aren't campaigning for child support payments to be due from the moment of conception.

There's no talk about allowing pregnant women to claim the fetus as a dependent.

George Carlin continues to be right about their actual motivations.

 

[calodo2003]

 

[Moby]

Utterly brainless.

 

[calodo2003]

Masturbatory fodder for the christofascists…

 

[calodo2003]

 

[Lemoor]

Except that they don't advocate for life insurance for fetuses.

They aren't campaigning for child support payments to be due from the moment of conception.

There's no talk about allowing pregnant women to claim the fetus as a dependent.

George Carlin continues to be right about their actual motivations.

Breathing people also don't have a right to force someone else to function as their incubator for 9 month and go through labor and all the other complications associated with pregnancy.

 

[Wibble]

Masturbatory fodder for the christofascists…

This is what the future may hold for American women.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/10/el-salvador-woman-sentenced-prison-after-miscarriage

 

[Jericholyte2]

Masturbatory fodder for the christofascists…

Under his eye

 

[VidaRed]

Even sharia allows abortion .

 

[calodo2003]

 

[maniak]

Those 10% will end up in a lot of deaths.

 

[calodo2003]

 

[Frosty]

Death penalty for a miscarriage. Cool. Sounds sensible.

 

[calodo2003]

Death penalty for a miscarriage. Cool. Sounds sensible.

And for abortions.

 

[Frosty]

And for abortions.

And for IVF? Might as well throw that in there too.

 

[calodo2003]

And for IVF? Might as well throw that in there too.

No doubt. Plan B would also be a death sentence.

 

[Jericholyte2]

Those 10% will end up in a lot of deaths.

I was going to say, the result is that 66% would still look to end the pregnancy, but that 10% are going to end up in rather dangerous situations.

 

[Frosty]

She seems like a sensible politician.

 

[Lemoor]

And for IVF? Might as well throw that in there too.

That's usually multiple counts of murder. We probably need to find a new punishment for that.

 

[WI_Red]

That's usually multiple counts of murder. We probably need to find a new punishment for that.

It's going to be interesting. My very pro-life uncle, who is also a baptist minister, has a daughter who has had IVF twice. He helped pay for it both times so he could have "natural" grandchildren. No interest in adopting.

 

[Adisa]

 

[Wibble]

It's going to be interesting. My very pro-life uncle, who is also a baptist minister, has a daughter who has had IVF twice. He helped pay for it both times so he could have "natural" grandchildren. No interest in adopting.

Interesting interpretation of "natural".

 

[WI_Red]

Interesting interpretation of "natural".

My word, not his. He/they (my cousin and husband, as to be honest I’m not sure who drove this view, so I may have been unfair previously). In any case there was no interest in adopting. It was procreation or bust.

 

[VorZakone]

Curious, could the abortion stuff be an effort from predominantly red states to disencourage blue-leaning voters from moving there?

 

[berbatrick]

Curious, could the abortion stuff be an effort from predominantly red states to disencourage blue-leaning voters from moving there?

it's been a core part of the conservative movement and religious right's demands for more than 50 years.

 

[nimic]

Went looking through some old threads, and found this post in the Amy Coney Barrett thread:

In 50 years this night will looked back on as one of significance

Way too optimistic.

Got to love Eboue, though.

Haven't you guys heard? Barrett won't overturn Roe, our good friend George Conway who makes the epic Lincoln Project ads told us so.

Haha, what an idiot.

I doubt Roe will ever dramatically die. It will just be put on terminal life-support, and possibly slip into a coma.

 

[WI_Red]

Went looking through some old threads, and found this post in the Amy Coney Barrett thread:


Way too optimistic.

Got to love Eboue, though.



Haha, what an idiot.

Err.... I meant months...

 

[Raoul]

 

[Eyepopper]

Next season of The Handmaid's Tale is going to be a documentary at this rate.

 

[Denis79]

Brilliant!

 

[calodo2003]

Even the scheduler of the procedure would be charged with a felony…

 

[Martial'sEmergingSmile]

Diddy Kong's silence is deafening.

 

[Frosty]

There are quite a few abortion video games as it happens:

https://www.theguardian.com/games/2...me-designers-fighting-back-on-abortion-rights

 

[calodo2003]

 

[calodo2003]

 

[adexkola]

I'm 99% certain tribes can do what the feck they want (subject only to federal law)

 

[maniak]

So tribes can have different laws from the rest of the state?

 

[MarylandMUFan]

Here is a good tribal map from the Census Bureau: https://www2.census.gov/geo/maps/special/AIANWall2010/AIAN_US_2010.pdf
The green ones on the map are federally recognized and unfortunately, there are not a lot of them in the south where the abortion laws would most likely restrict abortions.

 

[calodo2003]

So tribes can have different laws from the rest of the state?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_sovereignty_in_the_United_States

 

[MarylandMUFan]

So tribes can have different laws from the rest of the state?

Federally recognized tribes are considered independent nations with their own laws and police force. That being said, they would still need to abide by federal laws (unless there is a religious/cultural exception).