I think that we should give him a run on the left wing or as a second striker role. He always impressed me when out wide or the games he was forward. Maybe we should bring him on late and try him at these positions, not saying this would help but he needs to gain some confidence
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He hasnt really impressed me out wide but I do think he is good in a more advanced role, I would call it more of an attacking midfielder than a 2nd striker. He certainly could help do a job. It will be interesting to see how time he gets in the run-in, things might appear bad now, but they can turn around quite quickly just look at Nani
I hope he loses some weight while he's benched. His stamina in games really drops after about 60 minutes and that's something that simply can't be acceptable at this level of the game. Plus the lads 20, there's no excuse why he should be pulling a Ronaldinho at his age.
We need not a particular player to be succesful, as Fergie proved in the past. He kicked many players out, we kept being succesful. He sold his best player, we kept being succesful. So whether Anderson makes it here it solely up to him, and fecking off without permission is certainly the wrong way to prove Fergie he's worth a starting place. Plus shows a lack of discipline and maturity. In case he hasnt matured and learned from that and starts performing at his very very best and keeps improving, he will be out pretty soon. We dont need anybody and Fergie is certainly the wrong manager to play games
The lad is just being taught discipline. No big deal really.
Its more than that. Plus, as a professional footballer, trying to establish himself at a big club, it's more than just not having enough discipline
I like Anderson, and he is young for a central midfielder. And if it's a case that he and United aren't compatible, then it'd better for both parties if he left...but only if matters cannot be resolved.
I guess you can look at Seba Veron, who was a genuine world class player, but it just didn't work at United...no one's fault, these things happen.
Personally, I think Anderson is a very good player but can't see particularly what his best position would be (if he had his own preference)!
I guess you can look at Seba Veron, who was a genuine world class player, but it just didn't work at United...no one's fault, these things happen.
Personally, I think Anderson is a very good player but can't see particularly what his best position would be (if he had his own preference)!
I was referring to the likes of Stam and Ruud
Skipping training may have just been the final straw (if it indeed happened)
But if he has been dropped, then im sure its for good reason
It will be interesting to see if he's involved for the reserves v Burnley tonight. The last time he dropped down he was fantastic and it seemed to kick him on for a run of decent first team games.
His future is in his own hands
A weight loss programme would help him get some form back.
Aye, he was player of the month on here last October.
Apart from giving him a kick up the arse I hope he plays for fitness reasons. He's not got an amazing engine at the best of times and it's fecking ages since he last played a game.
The form of Fletcher, Carrick and Scholes means Anderson won't get a first team game any time soon but injuries or suspensions could result in him getting chucked in at the deep-end. All of which means he could badly do with 90 minutes of football, at any level.
What's the weather like "oop North"? D'you think the pitch will be playable?
It's a rubbish idea to play anyone who can't finish as a striker in any shape or form. Then there's the fact he's not the most intelligent mover off the ball, especially going forward, and it's one of the worst things we could do for Anderson.
We'd be better off playing him at left back.
It's cold and sunny so the pitch should be ok.
he's playing within himself and has been for some time. he does not merit a place in the squad, no matter how big of a man crush you lot have on him.
Well my lawn is frozen and and still white, but I obviously don't prepare my lawn the same way Alti will prepare Moss Lane. I was supposed to be going tonight but won't be now with the missus being in hospital, otherwise I'd be calling them all afternoon.
Just read that he's been left behind along with Vidic for the Milan match. Has he played his last game for us? It would appear so. He's been in the dog house for a lengthy spell and doesn't look like getting out of it any time soon.
With no Giggs or Hargreaves, I'd have expected him to be an option on the bench but clearly not...
With no Giggs or Hargreaves, I'd have expected him to be an option on the bench but clearly not...
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he and vidic were training fine last week so maybe both could be on their way out
he and vidic were training fine last week so maybe both could be on their way out
It's a huge leap to suggest he's played his last game. He was due to feature in the last two reserve matches which were both called off; that means he's not played a full game at any level for a good few weeks, he won't be match fit is all.
If the reserves game goes ahead this Thursday I expect he'll play in that.
If the reserves game goes ahead this Thursday I expect he'll play in that.
Official website.
Agreed. 90 minutes of football will do him a power of good. He would only be stuck on the bench anyway.
Yeah I know but he's not match fit because Fergie has frozen him out. Now we need him due to lack of cover in midfield but he's not match fit.
I mentioned earlier in the thread that this course of action would achieve nothing, now look, we've got nowhere and shot ourselves in the foot.
He needs to prove his commitment and raise his game to knock Gibson out of the matchday squad. It's a great test of his charachter and hopefully he'll come through it and gain some maturity and start producing again on the pitch.
Even if Vidic and Anderson are "on their way out." That wouldn't be the reasoning for leaving them behind.
If Vidic is off, but fit and well, Fergie will play him depending on form. He won't be benched for for the next 3.5 months purely because he'll leave in the summer.
No we don't. The cover we have in midfield (i.e. Gibson) can play no worse than Anderson did the last time he got a game.
Or should we have rewarded his poor performances on the pitch and jaunt off to Brazil with playing him in our most important run of games this season, just so he can be slightly more match-fot to sit on the bench in Milan?
You're right, but it is unfortunate. Anderson is a far, far better option for a game like this, all things being equal. I could only see Gibson chasing shadows against Milan's midfield. This game is a little too soon for him.
It's understandable that Vidic isn't in as Fergie wont want to risk him in a big game, but leaving Anderson behind makes me question whether his time is up 
You'd think Anderson would be a good option to have for a game like this to partner Fletcher in his destroying mode, even just part of the squad.
You'd think Anderson would be a good option to have for a game like this to partner Fletcher in his destroying mode, even just part of the squad.Can't believe some people are claiming Gibson>Anderson
Gibson never has and never will be a 1st team regular. Anderson has and could be in the future. Anderson also has more Brazil caps than Gibson has ROI caps.
Some people have been blinded by Gibson's goals IMHO.
Gibson never has and never will be a 1st team regular. Anderson has and could be in the future. Anderson also has more Brazil caps than Gibson has ROI caps.
Some people have been blinded by Gibson's goals IMHO.
I'm not for one second suggesting Gibson starts. He's an inferior player to Anderson but is, at least, fully commited to the cause and has earned his place on the bench.
As for Anderson, it looks as though he's got to earn the right to join the first-team squad all over again, after events of recent weeks. Which is harsh but fair and, in the long run, better for the team.
Can't believe some people are claiming Gibson>Anderson
Gibson never has and never will be a 1st team regular. Anderson has and could be in the future. Anderson also has more Brazil caps than Gibson has ROI caps.
Some people have been blinded by Gibson's goals IMHO.
Can't beleive you inferred that opinion from what anyone actually said.
Gibson has absolutely zero chance of playing against Milan. Anderson would have been an option, regardless of performance. So no point even thinking of Gibbo. We saw with Nani how it changes and Gibson can't buy Andersons experience even if he's still a kid himself.
Anderson needs to get in shape, we all know this but at 21 it's understandable to make mistakes - more so since we lost carlos queiroz and Ronaldo who was obviously a big influence on Nani and Anderson
He's been unfortunate that we've had reserve game/s called off but it'll make him hungrier when he does get the chance. He just NEEDS to get back that energy in his game
Anderson needs to get in shape, we all know this but at 21 it's understandable to make mistakes - more so since we lost carlos queiroz and Ronaldo who was obviously a big influence on Nani and Anderson
He's been unfortunate that we've had reserve game/s called off but it'll make him hungrier when he does get the chance. He just NEEDS to get back that energy in his game
Can't believe some people are claiming Gibson>Anderson
Gibson never has and never will be a 1st team regular. Anderson has and could be in the future. Anderson also has more Brazil caps than Gibson has ROI caps.
Some people have been blinded by Gibson's goals IMHO.
I wouldn't be so quick to make such bold statements as he will never be a first team regular. Such things have a habit of being brought back up years down the line when said player has cemented his place on the team sheet.
No, I didn't think you were. Just pointing out the worries I'd have if he had to come on in the game.
Nah, it's not harsh at all. You feck up, you either learn from it and make amends or you're sent somewhere else to foist your feck ups on someone else. The ball's in Anderson's court now. The chubby cnut.
What if one of Carrick, Scholes or Fletcher get injured? Who is going to come on for them?
You and someone else said that he basically needed to up it to replace Gibson in the matchday squad. That would imply that Gibson has done something to be ahead of him, which he hasn't, he's just been the man to profit from Fergie's disciplinary code.
Is there any other midfielders you want to injure? Give me a break. You select your best team but if you cannot you select from the squad but you don't select Gibson before the three mentioned and you only select him if you've injuries as you say. I'm not sure what that proves?
As far as i know, that situation don't exist and I would argue Anderson has shown MORE then gibson - not in terms of goals but in terms of grabbing hold of the midfield BUT his problem is he's not done that lately. Not since that reserves game
Can Gibson can reach that potential? I don't think he can dominate games the way Anderson can WHEN he's on his game. That is what sets him and Gibson apart for me and therefore a few bad games won't change anything. We just have to be paitent with him
Exactly my point. If one of them gets crocked, we will regret freezing Anderson out. It would mean bringing Berbatov on and opening the game up for Milan.
Valencia could play in central midfield as well, with Park & Nani playing on both wings. Scholes, Carrick, Fletcher, Gibson and Valencia is (good) enough IMHO.
Gibson doesn't need to do anything to be ahead of Anderson if Anderson plays shit, then responds to playing shit by skipping training/fecking off to Brazil.
Gibson is on the bench as a result of Anderson slipping down the pecking order, rather than him forcing his way up it. But hey, that's football. If any footballer takes the piss he loses his place in the squad, no matter how naturally talented he is. That's how you build a succesful team, as opposed to a collection of pampered twats, who think they don't need to graft to earn their right to play.
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