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The Gods of Hamstring strike again
No way. Don't get me wrong, I rate Jones but not in midfield. He just doesnt know what to do with the ball and more often than not he loses it.
Yes fletcher is still on the road to recovery, but he's more adept at playing in that position than Jones. He's better on the ball and a better passer. Jones looks like a donkey playing in midfield, which as I said in the 'jones' thread, is not his fault, he's a defender and should stay in defense!
This is like Alan Smith all over again. Just because a player show's a bit of 'bite' does not mean he's a midfielder. I hope Fergie puts out a team against city with players playing in their correct positions!
Hence I said trying to match up to that
He's definitely stronger and more physical than our other options in there
City fan?
Anderson is really unlucky. This season he was going so good, and then gets injured. Tough luck for him.
I think he pulled his hamstring doing that dance
Are we 100% sure that he will be out against City? Fergie loves to say things like that only to have the player ready. I think it could mean the world for our midfield - we actually then have a player who can run past other players, including Yaya who wouldn't be as able to boss the midfield.
What do we learn from this? There is no point in protecting Anderson or "easing him back in" to the first team. He will get injured anyway. So when he is available we might as well get whatever use out of him that we can.
Agree with:
If this is just a minor setback, phew. If one thing turns into another and he is now out for the majority of the season, we need to find someone else who can do what he does, but stay fit.
Agree with:
If this is just a minor setback, phew. If one thing turns into another and he is now out for the majority of the season, we need to find someone else who can do what he does, but stay fit.
Agreed. Although regardless of that, we should be buying another midfielder anyway. With Scholes and Giggs surely not good enough for another season, and Fletcher not looking like he'll ever be his old self again, we need someone else for quantity if nothing else.
Amen to that.
That first time ball before the goal was THE SEX!
What's so bloody frustrating is that he seems to get injured right when we're starting to see real progress from him. It never seems to be after he's had a few stinkers. It's madness to think we went into the season relying on Giggs and Scholes who have a combined age of 137, according to my rough calculations, Fletch who might never have played again after what was an extraordinarily difficult and invasive illness and Anderson who has never, from memory, managed to get through an entire season without significant injuries. Every one of those players has their games managed carefully.
And yet we're still top. Imagine how good we'd be if we had Jordan Henderson.
And yet we're still top. Imagine how good we'd be if we had Jordan Henderson.
Indeed, it's an incredibly frustrating scenario. I can't think of many other footballers that SAF would continue to persist with so long despite all this shit over the last 6 years. I imagine that if the rest of our midfield wasn't so old, sick and crap he'd be out the door by now.
I mean really, did anyone actually expect him to go this season without buggering himself up again? Fair enough this might only be a minor injury but you just know he's going to end up getting fecked for months again, come back looking as unfit as ever, and rinse and repeat.
It's time SAF stoped relying on our current crop of midfielders and sorted the bloody thing out.
I mean really, did anyone actually expect him to go this season without buggering himself up again? Fair enough this might only be a minor injury but you just know he's going to end up getting fecked for months again, come back looking as unfit as ever, and rinse and repeat.
It's time SAF stoped relying on our current crop of midfielders and sorted the bloody thing out.
The celebration. What a joker. In front of the Reading fans too and the little look.
Guy is a character!
Guy is a character!
Be a huge blow if he is out. People can say what they like about Anderson, but the bottom line is he the only midfielder we have who can impose himself physically on an opponent. Furthermore, he is the only one with the power and determination to run in behind the opposition midfield and commit players.
Anderson could be better of course, his decision making in the final third leaves a lot to be desired at times. But at least he can turn the opposition around, whereas most of our other midfielders tend to play in front of the opposition.
Anderson could be better of course, his decision making in the final third leaves a lot to be desired at times. But at least he can turn the opposition around, whereas most of our other midfielders tend to play in front of the opposition.
Shit news about Anderson, especially with the City game coming up this weekend.
He was in good form, and I was confident enough that he'd deal with Yaya's physical approach and threat. Also as I've said before, he's the only MF we have that actually drives forward at the opposition and gives us fantastic energy.
He was in good form, and I was confident enough that he'd deal with Yaya's physical approach and threat. Also as I've said before, he's the only MF we have that actually drives forward at the opposition and gives us fantastic energy.
Fcuking gutting that. Looks our best central player at the moment. fecking horrible. Bastard hamstring feck.
But what are the alternatives Cina? Actually buy a midfielder or 2? I have to suggest that if he could have found a midfielder then he would have bought one already.
I have said before until he changes the system and our dependence on wingers, then he will continue to struggle to identify midfielders capable of playing in a central pair. There is almost no other teams who play their football with such huge gaps in their teams, they nearly all play in much more compact systems than we employ. Which makes it almost extremely difficult to judge their ability to adapt and function effectively in our system.
However we try and slice it, SAF has not got a good record with signing midfielders, especially foreign ones. Now the game has changed to more of a midfield possession based game, i think he will struggle more than ever to find the type of player he seems to be looking for.
I see only 2 options really. Take gambles as he has in the past, hoping that proven or young foreign players will adapt to our system. Or get in a number 2for fresh insight, as we did with Queiroz, who will help us transition into a more European style of play.
Of course the solution is to buy midfielders. Plenty have gone in the last 2 to 3 years (and that's how long we've needed to buy one for, this isn't just a new thing), not necessarily brilliant ones, but Christ, they don't need to be brilliant to improve the midfield we have.
I don't buy this idea that he just hasn't found the right midfielder yet. He's been buying wingers and strikers no bother. Was Young the perfect fit for this club? No, we got him cause we missed out on other wingers that Summer, why can't we do the same with our midfield?
I know I'm being brutal here, but the standard and reliability we have in it is appalling. Something needs to be done about it, and that something is not sitting around on our arses as it decays even further, hoping the next Roy Keane magically appears out of nowhere.
I don't buy this idea that he just hasn't found the right midfielder yet. He's been buying wingers and strikers no bother. Was Young the perfect fit for this club? No, we got him cause we missed out on other wingers that Summer, why can't we do the same with our midfield?
I know I'm being brutal here, but the standard and reliability we have in it is appalling. Something needs to be done about it, and that something is not sitting around on our arses as it decays even further, hoping the next Roy Keane magically appears out of nowhere.
Not even surprised.
How many seasons has this happened since he has been here? All.
How many seasons has this happened since he has been here? All.
He only gets injured when on form. Finding form is his cryptonite. FACHT
That celebration and that "loo" he gave the Reading fans still puts a smile on my face. 
Anyone has a gif?
fecking frustrating about the injury. Couldn't have happened at a worse time for him, and this formation really suits his attacking instincts much more than trying to fit him into a 2 man midfield!
Anyone has a gif?fecking frustrating about the injury. Couldn't have happened at a worse time for him, and this formation really suits his attacking instincts much more than trying to fit him into a 2 man midfield!
I don't think you are being brutal, it's frustrating. You will struggle to find anyone who has bemoaned our midfield for as long as i have. But you have to wonder why he has been able to buy for every position except central midfield?
For me it is our system. Quality strikers are almost guaranteed goalscorers given enough chances. But even our wingers have struggled as much as the midfield. Only Valencia has regular spells of consistency because he is the only 'winger' well suited to how we play.
Midfielders are hard for us to identify, simply because most play in a 3 of some type with teammates in close proximity, so it is very difficult to predict how well they would cope playing in a far more isolated pairing in a faster league. This is why i feel SAF is reluctant to spend the money on midfielders who he isn't sure can do the job better than what we have. Consider his record with foreign midfielders and it must surely only add to his reluctance.
Changing the system would enable us to buy midfielders and play them in a system similar to what they are used to. Makes it much easier to spot players under those circumstances. I think Xavi and Busqets would struggle playing in our system. They would certainly not be used to having so few teamamates within 5 or 10 yards, nor having such huges spaces to cover when trying to get the ball back.
Shame. Was playing so well.
Great post, mate!
No doubt that there are great midfielders around, but as you state, how many of them are able to carry out a good job in a 2 man midfield...
That being said, it may appear that Ferguson is realising that 4-4-2 is on the way out simply because there are so few Roy Keane's left, nor are there many good out and out wingers left either. How many Giggs are there today? Bale could be one, but he too choses to move inwards like a Mata and Silva, not really getting to use his pace. Nani is somewhere between that, and to me our best bet, but he looks out the window, so not sure what to do with wingers either.
I'd pose the same question if you would prefer to see Fletcher than Jones in midfield on current form. At least one can get about.
This is what happens when you buy a player after he breaks his leg.
Hargreaves
Anderson
Hargreaves
Anderson
Then there's your Valencia who was on a roll after regaining fitness.
Anyways, lets see how Anderson copes after this injury. Was looking really good lately and i'm so gutted for him to get injured again.
Anyways, lets see how Anderson copes after this injury. Was looking really good lately and i'm so gutted for him to get injured again.
I wasn't aware Valencia was on a roll.
Ando's injuries have had very little to do with the leg break.
He means last season, after coming back from the long injury.
I'm not sure that your hypothesis really holds up given your exceptionally slim evidence.
I think we should buy more Trinidadian players.
Dwight Yorke.
Please, be miraculously okay, way earlier than expected.
I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him until February, it seems like when he does get injured he usually suffers a setback of some kind and is out way longer than originally stated.
Sorry if I'm not too positive about the chances of Anderson getting/staying fit.
I'm also not very optimistic. If he won't make it before February, It may be a bit harder to get some good series of win, in the new year fixtures and return to form will propably take some time, too.
Question, if the same thing happens this season as most others, and he ends up injured for most of it and doesn't get a consistent run going, should we get rid?
I'm asking because the general consensus pre-season was that this was "make or break" time for him.
I'm asking because the general consensus pre-season was that this was "make or break" time for him.
No matter what happens to him, we should sign one or two midfielders. I like very much him, but maybe we should really get rid of him if he spends again the majority of season injured. He is a fantastic midfielder, but so Hargreaves was.
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