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He was helping the defence one moment the next he was up front, that side of his game was fine, it was just his "hollywood" balls that were lacking, but that is also the fault of how we set ourselves up at the front.
Diouf? you question? or Owen up front, he's linked up well with him in the past.
The habit of Youth and not playing enough.
His work rate was pretty good, but his passing was woeful tonight..
left back on the bench?
You are so close to hitting the nail on the head, he needs players who think on his wave length, make the runs he is expecting. He needs more than one other attacking footballer around him, he needs a central midfield partner who passes the ball to him and then makes a forward run and vice versa. When Anderson plays an easy ball he then proceeds to make a forward run. Fletcher will play it back (tonight usually to Evans) and stand there hoping his defensive team mate will make something happen! Jesus who is the midfielder!
The amusing thing is, Anderson over the past two seasons has been far worse than Nani, but for some reason is well loved whereas Nani (who has far more goals and assists to his name) gets slated for bad performances.
Anderson can do no wrong in some fan's eyes, when he's clearly not good enough for Manchester United at the moment. He was never the same player at Porto after he broke his leg, and I think we bought him on the basis of his pre-injury form.
Anderson can do no wrong in some fan's eyes, when he's clearly not good enough for Manchester United at the moment. He was never the same player at Porto after he broke his leg, and I think we bought him on the basis of his pre-injury form.
It's why in the brief moments we saw it, him and Hargreaves worked so well. I honesty look at Anderson exactly how I looked at a young Paul Scholes ( yes I know they are different, but not as much as people claim) passes quickly between the midfield, but is always looking for the run of the forwards. More than willing to help out at the back and the next moment be supporting the strikers.
When giggsy is on the left, and Rooney is on the right, what does his through ball that reaches Given got to do with players making the runs he's expecting.
Look mate, his passing is way off, especially his Hollywood balls which can be downright atrocious and it's the player himself who needs to work at it and sort it out.
Anderson can do lots wrong, but he has never been far worse than Nani. Jeez CD, why is everyone looking for scapegoats when they all forget we haven't had our first choice backline for god knows how long.
I'm not sure he will ever become as good as we all think he can. He's got the ability, but i'm not sure he has the heart, or the mental strength. He's looked overweight to me as well, and for a young lad he seems to lack the bravery that distinguishes a good midfielder from the truly great one's.
I think he attempts ambitious balls and as a result his passing stats look worse then someone like Fletcher or Carrick who in recent games have played more safer passes, but that still doesn't excuse the fact that for every good game Anderson has, he has 5 very very average ones.
Got time on his side, but I really do wonder if he has it in him to become a star at united. He looks bemused half the time, like he expects things to happen and unknown forces are working against him.
Since he's been here, there's been maybe 3-4 times i've seen magic in his game, most of the time it's just sprinklings of fairy dust, and that's just not good enough for me.
I think he attempts ambitious balls and as a result his passing stats look worse then someone like Fletcher or Carrick who in recent games have played more safer passes, but that still doesn't excuse the fact that for every good game Anderson has, he has 5 very very average ones.
Got time on his side, but I really do wonder if he has it in him to become a star at united. He looks bemused half the time, like he expects things to happen and unknown forces are working against him.
Since he's been here, there's been maybe 3-4 times i've seen magic in his game, most of the time it's just sprinklings of fairy dust, and that's just not good enough for me.
They're both attacking midfielders, yet Nani has been waaaay more productive. Anderson has ONE goal to his name, and a handful of assists. Also, Nani gets slated for giving the ball away too often, when I swear that's all Anderson ever does with his ridiculous Hollywood balls over the top.
You frget how many times he's at the back helping out wth the defensive duties then the next moment at the front. He has helped out the team in so many ways. The annoyance we seem to have with Nani is that he will get past his man, then slow down to beat him again before he makes his cross. Which is annoying as he can pass the ball. I'm actually for Nani getting more starts. as we don't have any real pace on the left side. Anderson can also cross, at Porto, Anderson played pretty much on the left. I would just like to see Anderson either played with the defensive duties off, or with an traditional fast striker up front. I'm not saying it should be every game, I just think we can afford too experiment, in unimportant games like today, with 2 strikers up front.
He can't play any of these so called "hollywood balls",his passing simply isn't good enough
He can, his passing can be sublime. Forgetting every pass he has ever made in his time with us is the only way anyone can claim he can't pass.
What a odd thing to say, he can pass he just doesnt do it on a consistant enough level to match the expectations of some United fans. Against Burnley all his passes were sticking and we looked much more threatening once he got on the pitch. But sadly when he has a game like today all the good is washed away and only the bad remains
I said it before and i'll say it again if Anderson adds consistancy to his game i can see him develop into a fine midfield powerhouse
Far from odd,if you were looking for a player to play an aforementioned "hollywood ball" then he would be closer the back of the queue than the front. I never said he couldnt pass, I simply stated he's not good enough to play a "hollywood" pass on a consistent basis.
Its like every time he plays you just know half of his passes are going to be pointless over the top balls that never come off. He should just keep it simple rather than trying hollywood passes that 95 percent of the time just end up with the opposition goaly.
Definitely. Might have to maintain great patience though...
IMO most of his hollywood passes while frustrating show that he has the vision to see players runs but his passing range isnt up to the same level of his vision - i think this is a good sign because you can improve your passing with age and practise but if your vision is bad you have trouble improving that over time.
I cant say it enough but in a game i think his pass success rate has to be in the 60%'s or higher but thats because hes willing to pass that difficult ball - i mean would you rather have another Lucas who rarely passes forward and is mainly looking to retain the ball rather then try something to get a player away
No you didn't, you said:
Yet he has done so on more thn one occasion, if he gets the consistency to his game he will be more than capable of creating these Hollywood balls with an end result. He is good enough.
I reckon another season or two and he'll start to add that sort of consistancy, honestly if he was 3-4 years older and putting in performances like today then i would be a little worried but CMF is perhaps one of the harder positions to fill in a top level team and most players only manage to take that mantle when they are in their mid-20's.
Give the lad time im sure hes going to be a brilliant player. I'll put it this way i would rather take a chance with Anderson than sell him and see him become a good/great player somewhere else... Id rather him become good then start talking about his dream
I reckon another season or two and he'll start to add that sort of consistancy, honestly if he was 3-4 years older and putting in performances like today then i would be a little worried but CMF is perhaps one of the harder positions to fill in a top level team and most players only manage to take that mantle when they are in their mid-20's.
Give the lad time im sure hes going to be a brilliant player. I'll put it this way i would rather take a chance with Anderson than sell him and see him become a good/great player somewhere else... Id rather him become good then start talking about his dream
Here, here.
Yep. I keep saying that. You look at how players like Fletcher have developed. Or Scholes, who turned from a good midfielder into a midfield genius over the years. Also Lampard, who I didn't think much of when Chelsea paid 10m for him. Even the likes of Xavi have developed massively since their early twenties. Not everyone can be a Fabregas.
Sadly the development of Rooney, Ronaldo, Messi and Fabregas have almost tainted it for other players coming through. So much is expected from young players now its untrue
Precisely. Everyone started wanking over Fletcher last season, yet before then the majority harped on about how he wasn't United quality. Keane was impressive when he played for Notts Forest yet it wasn't til a few seasons he played for us when he became a midfield monster. Midfielders need time to develop.
Fletcher always looked good in the middle. He just didnt play there for ages and we had to put up with his poor performances on the right. Some people took longer than others to give credit where its due for his performances in the middle, but when a player is the best player on the pitch in so many big games and then adds goals and more consistancy to his game, you're going to look a loon if you stick to the opinion that he's rubbish. I can say I was unimpressed with Fletcher on the right, particularly as he was said to be "The new Beckham" when his crossing was so poor but as soon as he got his games in central midfield, I became a fan.
No he didn't.
Yes, he did. Maybe your expectations were a bit much and you'd already decided you didnt like him based on his performances on the right. But in the middle he always looked a good young player.
Anderson > Carrick now and the future.
There was always a big difference between Fletcher in the middle and Fletcher on the right. But there was also a big difference between Fletcher in the odd big game and Fletcher in "regular" matches. The kind which made you wonder if he was a real quality midfielder or a Phil Neville. Well, he's no Phil Neville. He's matured a lot, became stronger physically and mentally. It's not so much technical qualities that a midfielder has to learn. It's mostly in the head, decision making, taking positions, etc.
Are you a WUM or just totally clueless? The world may never know.
Im winding you up, thats half my job done if nothing else.....
Secondly if you dont like it then may i suggest you dont reply to it, just a thought......
No I had no expectations on him. As far as I was concerned he was a squad layer til he proved otherwise. He was that great in Central midfield that we had to experiment with Smith there for a few yew years.
Are you a WUM or just totally clueless? The world may never know.
The world agrees with him.
Thank you.
The world as in gambit28? Well, perhaps you've got a point.
Good lord.
He was woeful today, and hasn't really played well all season bar a game or 2. I agree with what the Count said to an extent. He hasn't really shown any more promise than Nani (I wouldn't say he has shown less necessarily) yet he's seen in a completely opposite viewpoint by fans and critics, the only reason I can see for this is that he's just a far more smiley, likable chap. If anything, Nani has been better than him this season.
Considering all he has had is a game or 2 all season. Then he's impressed a lot, in comparison to Carrick who has had the odd great game but been invisible for the majority. It's about time we gave Anderson a run agains't lesser taems. Especially considering Carrick can't be arsed against them.
Can a good young central midfielder not be a squad player or something? You just had to look at his performances in the big matches after he got going in the middle to know that he had the right stuff. He didnt have great consistancy as he wouldnt always have a good match against the lesser sides and he was obviously a less complete player back then, but he was clearly a good young central midfielder.
It took a long time and many, many fantastic performances (almost all of them in big matches) to change the opinion of the majority, that he wasnt very good at all, based on a judgement of him playing on the right of midfield where he was pants at the time. In my opinion it took most people too long to cotton on. But I guess he did make a poor first impression with his time on the right of midfield.
All the midfield were shocking today in fairness, which considering they were in their prefered 3 man unit was surprising, my point is more on the basis Carricks been an ever present all season and simply done nothing of note bar look average (and side pass the ball 5 yards and have a nice pretty looking pass succes rate on the stats machine)....as for effecitvness hes been a passenger for the majority.....Anderson hasnt been given the chances this season and thats what he needs, a run of games and a consistent competent midfield partner, Carricks had that all season and still looked average nine times out of ten, Anderson will be a far better player than Carrick is now in a few years so why not aid that development with a run of games....
One things for sure Carricks on burrowed time if he dosnt pick his game up, he was shocking again tonight...as was Fletch for the majority unfortunatly unlike him.
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