Indeed. Bastian wanted Utd and ADM wanted PSG even before Utd, his own fault and LVG's fault turned the entire transfer into a waste of time and money.
Angel Di Maria | Performances | Wife: "He only joined United for money. The food was disgusting. The women look like porcelain"
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Bastian is 31 years old, and probably would have left Bayern in a year or two. This is probably his last massive pay cheque and a great club, he made a good choice.
di Maria is 27, never wanted to leave Real and was sent to the highest bidder. He's in his best years and wouldn't want to waste them at United, which was a very wise decision.
It was pretty obvious that LVG was a big reason for Di Maria suddenly losing interest. You can say what ever you want about "mentality" but this is a player who had just been MOTM in the biggest club competition in the world. Started the first few games looking like the best player in the league, then all of a sudden drops off a cliff. Under another manager he would still be with us probably still tearing the league apart like the first few games.
Jesus Christ, what a goal. I remembered when the majority of Redcafe poster wanted him gone and taught Di Maria was just an average player without taking into the account the effect Van Gaal philosophy had on him. At the end of the day, my previous assumption was right once again and it was a ludicrous decision to stick with Van Gaal and sell Di Maria.
Yep. That's why I'm not going to be too harsh on the likes of Mata, Herrera, Memphis, Martial, even Rooney when they play poorly here or don't make much of an impact. It's all on Van Gaal's style not letting them play how they can or getting even close to how good they really are. Di Maria looked like a waste here, when in reality, he's one of the best counter attacking players in the world as he showed in Madrid and now in PSG. We have plenty of players in our team who have shown how good they can be on occasion, or in their previous teams, but we won't get them performing consistently here until we get rid of Van Gaal. Even if we got Ronaldo/Bale/Muller/James or any other world class player in, they'd still look only "good" and probably be wildly inconsistent, while LvG is at the club.
What's the point in world class players playing for a team who is barely good enough to make top 4, with a manager who is trying to make you play the complete opposite of what made you a world class player in the first place? Even in LvG's awful style, he still got 10 assists for the season last year, way more then anyone else on our team then, and now. Mata has 3 assists this season in the league, and he has the most for us this year. That shows how good he can be, if he was decently productive playing for an LvG team. Van Gaal has completely ruined every single attacking player we've had since he came in. Martial is the only one playing decently, and even he, if he wasn't a 19/20 year old, would be being judged a lot more harshly with his output.
I had some reservations due to his season at Utd but I am now absolutely delighted to have him playing for us. He has adapted well to our system and plays consistently at a world class level.
Thanks LVG and Ed for letting him join us.
Thanks LVG and Ed for letting him join us.
No offence but your league is very poor. I think even I would score quite a few goals in that team and league.
PSG are absolutely rampant. Incredibly easy for them.
No offense but you don't really know what you're talking about. No problem I know you're siding with the popular opinion.
Watching Di Maria, Herrera & Mata against Leicester last season was one of the last times i felt any real joy. Yes United lost the game but it was so exciting to watch...glad he is doing well at PSG!
PSG are 21 points clear at the top.
What a joke of a league!
What a joke of a league!
Impossible to judge anything from dominating French football. They may as well be playing in my local intermediate league.
You're joking surely?PSG are 21 points clear at the top.
He's not. At this rate they could win the league with 10 games spare.
46 gd to Monaco's 8. Monaco being second...PSG are 21 points clear at the top.
What a joke of a league!
Nope. Difference between first and second is greater than the difference between second and the second last team.
Ligue 1 is shit this year. PSG are still undefeated and even in games when they're poor (like away against Toulouse recently) opponents simply can't take advantage of it. Everyone is lightyears behind them, it's boring and too easy for PSG.
46 gd to Monaco's 8. Monaco being second...
This is bonkers! Seems like nobody gives a shit either
What a joke of a league. Those stats are shocking.
Those stats are shocking.He was and is a fantastic player, he just needed to play in a side that actually plays football and at a decent tempo. Not surprising he looked shit here, so does everybody else.
Bottom line, though, is he just didn't want to be here. Really didn't want to be here. Would things have gone differently had we had a different manager last season? Maybe, but we didn't. I doubt the summer could have ended up differently than him leaving.
The Ligue 1 is currently a pretty poor barometer to measure his ability upon but hasn't he also been one of their better performers in the UCL?
Are three goals of seven against Malmö really a good barometer?
I don't know what I'm talking about ? Like someone else has just said you're 21 points clear and it is only end of January! It is a poor league.
Ligue 1 is feckin awful it's not a popular opinion it's a fact.
Rooney could play for PSG and probably score 25 goals.
French League is the fourth/fifth best league (Serie A?) in Europe and of the biggest leagues, it has the least parity and is the least competitive. If you can't agree with that, then you're delusional so join the Moyes brigade. Spain and Germany are arguably the best leagues in terms of technique, good overall play and tempo. England is the most competitive and unpredictable, so entertainment/emotions can sway violently (i.e. Liverpool v Norwich yesterday). French league is dour. PSG's Arab money will never be considered a true success until PSG wins a Champions League because their league is so crap, anyone who invested anything significant would have gone straight to the top like Monaco, but now have had financial issues the past couple of seasons, so whoever finished outside of first is by default, there's no rhyme or reason to it.
One team can be that good sure, but for the league not to have another competitive team is crap. PSG hasn't even lost yet in their domestic league and it's end of January!
As for ADM, he was a talent and still is, that's not news. Mentally, he was a fragile player in England (media, culture and football fans destroyed him) and many (English/British) people are for some reason glad that England got to him and he left for the glamorous and easy club, city and riches that is Paris and PSG.
One team can be that good sure, but for the league not to have another competitive team is crap. PSG hasn't even lost yet in their domestic league and it's end of January!
As for ADM, he was a talent and still is, that's not news. Mentally, he was a fragile player in England (media, culture and football fans destroyed him) and many (English/British) people are for some reason glad that England got to him and he left for the glamorous and easy club, city and riches that is Paris and PSG.
Ligue 1 is an average league (not very poor) and the point difference means that one team is much better than the others this year (last year was very different). Why are you getting in an argument in the first place?
It's not easier to shine in L1 than anywhere else. If noone is that good in a match everyone will look like crap, and that happens.
Yeah the league isn't really 'poor', but it's shit because it was clear as day after a few weeks that PSG would win it. No competition whatsoever. There are some ok teams, some good games (OL-OM was good yesterday, very PL type of game with high intensity and tempo), but everyone is just too far behind PSG currently.
And while it's not especially easy or easier to shine in L1 than other leagues, it's definitely easy to shine in this PSG team which is head and shoulders above any opposition they face every week.
I don't really agree. Lavezzi who is just a good player but still Argentina international hasn't managed to look any good for us this year. Everytime Cavani, Ibra, Lucas, Pastore or Di Maria don't perform to the highest standard they stick out like a sore thumb. Playing in this PSG team comes with very high expectations and it's easy to fail.
Sure it may be easier to have great stats in a dominating team like PSG in Ligue 1 but being the best attacking player in this PSG lineup and pulling some magic consitently the way Di Maria did in the last few months is seriously impressive.
You only need to look at his first few games with us to see he was a naturally incredible player.
It's fairly obvious that his creative freedom to just go out and play football was restricted by Van Gaal (probably because of that Leicester result), and things went downhill from there.
He is a massive pussy for not wanting to stick around and fight, but at the same time, seeing the state we are in now you can hardly blame him either.
It's fairly obvious that his creative freedom to just go out and play football was restricted by Van Gaal (probably because of that Leicester result), and things went downhill from there.
He is a massive pussy for not wanting to stick around and fight, but at the same time, seeing the state we are in now you can hardly blame him either.
Lavezzi? He is a bang average player at the top level, always has been and always will be. We wouldn't even touch him in our current desperation. We have enough average players as it is. Romero is also an Argentina international who has played in a World Cup final, you can find him these days playing for our reserve side.
Just saw a stat about Ligue 1 this year: PSG have 16 more points at this stage than they did last year, and 9 more than in 13/14 (which was already an excellent season for them). It's ridiculous.
Got LVG'd, so is Falcao, Rooney, RvP, Mata, Depay, Januzaj, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Darmian, Jones, Evans, players who got significantly worse under van Gaal. (Forgotten a few).
If it were only him out of our creative players that have been stifled and are underperforming after a promising start, I'd lay it all on him.
But the buck stops with LVG here IMO. Di Maria's a brilliant player. Poor league or not, some of the things he does...
But the buck stops with LVG here IMO. Di Maria's a brilliant player. Poor league or not, some of the things he does...
You see my problem is I understand that, but what I don't understand is why that translates into PSG not being a great team. They look pretty damn good to me. So why the problems in this thread with ADM doing well at PSG? They are simply miles better than us and I simply don't understand the arguments many put forward in this thread.
I've said it all along. LvG messed him around, which ruined his confidence and form.
Yeah he made the right decision in hindsight. Would have continued to have played dreadfully under LvG. You can imagine LvG telling Di Maria not to dribble, pass or shoot unless it will result in a goal and then analysing every 'bad decision' post-game.