Yeah he'll always be remembered for his barnstorming performances for Portugal in the Homeless World Cup.
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"barnstorming" would be a strangely inappropriate adjective to use in that context.
This quote from him is encouraging:
As it was encouraging to see Nani at the reserve game against Villa the other day; creates a really good atmosphere for Bebe to settle in.
As it was encouraging to see Nani at the reserve game against Villa the other day; creates a really good atmosphere for Bebe to settle in.
That Youtube video of Bebe against Villa no where mirrors his displays in the Homeless World Cup.
I've always thought that describing something as 'barnstorming' meant that it was 'exorbitant, fanciful and impressive'. No?
Reckon we could get #itsbebesfaultthat... trending?#itsbebesfaultthat... Raoul Moat went mental
I was making a lame joke about homeless people storming barns, presumably for somewhere to sleep?
"A lot of my young players will play. Bébé is training very well," Ferguson said. "He'll be involved tomorrow night.
Bébé set to make Manchester United debut in Carling Cup third round tie - Telegraph
Posted in the right thread now
Bébé set to make Manchester United debut in Carling Cup third round tie - Telegraph
Posted in the right thread now
isn't that a bit too early? SAF knows best i guess...can't wait to see him play for us, hope he has a decent game!
Portugal U21 player should be able to face mighty Scrumtop.
Scunthorpe away; always a tricky fixture. Will he be ready? I bloody hope so cos we could have bought league 1 and 2 for the money we paid for Bebe.
remember Ronaldo's debut? I see Bebe's going the same way. maybe a few more goals though
i meant more fitness-wise, but i guess you're right, we are not playing against Barca so, he should be alright.
Agent under scrutiny over Bebé transfer to Manchester United
• New questions over bizarre transfer deal
• Bebé finally to make debut tonight
David Conn The Guardian, Wednesday 22 September 2010
Bebé is finally expected to play for the first team at Scunthorpe tonight. Photograph: Paul Thomas/Action Images
Manchester United have confirmed that the agent Jorge Mendes acted for Bebé when Sir Alex Ferguson signed the 20-year-old striker from the Portuguese first division club Vitória de Guimarães in the summer's most extraordinary transfer deal.
Bebé's previous agent, Gonçalo Reis, who had represented Bebé when he moved to Vitória just weeks earlier from the third division club Estrela da Amadora, has previously complained he was cut out of the deal before Bebé signed for United. Bebé, included in United's senior squad for the first time tonight, away at Scunthorpe United in the Carling Cup, had not played a single competitive match for Vitória, and Ferguson had not seen him play, when United's manager signed him for £7.4m.
It was known at the time that Mendes, the agent of Ferguson's former assistant and Portugal's then coach, Carlos Queiroz, and a string of Portuguese stars including Cristiano Ronaldo, had acted in the deal, but not that he was Bebé's own agent. A spokesman for United has now clarified that Mendes did act for Bebé in the transfer. "Jorge Mendes is Bebé's agent," the spokesman said. He added that United did not employ an agent themselves on the deal. "We dealt with Bebé's representative and the club."
Mendes's involvement as Bebé's agent raises the possibility that Reis could formally complain to Fifa that Bebé was "poached" from him, which, if proven, would be a breach of the worldwide regulations governing the conduct of agents. Reis would not comment on that, or on the revelation that Mendes acted for Bebé personally in the move.
Fifa's regulations require players and agents to have written contracts with each other, for a maximum of two years. Article 22 of the Fifa regulations prohibits an agent from contacting a player while he has "an exclusive representation contract" with another agent. That is considered to be poaching. A player can, as Bebé apparently did, terminate a contract early, but must have a valid legal reason for doing so or the agent can claim for lost business. Reis said at the time that he had a written contract to represent Bebé as his agent, which had some time left to run. Bebé did write to Reis to terminate that contract, but Reis said he received Bebé's letter on 13 August, two days after Bebé had already signed for United.
Mendes had put the news of Bebé's move, together with a picture of the two of them together, on the website of his agency, Gestifute, and Emilio Macedo, president of Vitória, was quoted formally thanking Mendes for his help, saying Mendes: "Brings money into the country like an export."
Ferguson later revealed that he had never seen Bebé play, in person or on video, before asking the club's chief executive, David Gill, to spend £7.4m signing him, the first time in Ferguson's 36 years as a manager that he has not watched a player he has signed. Bebé had played only pre-season matches for Vitória after moving from Estrela this summer, and Ferguson said Queiroz, at the time still Portugal's coach, had recommended that United sign the forward, a judgment supported by United's scouts in the country.
The fee United paid, £7.4m, was reported to be the buyout clause, €9m, which Vitória had inserted into a new, improved contract with Bebé signed shortly after he joined. Reis had brought Bebé to Vitória originally, and negotiated his first deal, said to be on a smaller wage with a more modest buyout clause. It is not known if Reis was involved in negotiating the enhanced, second deal at Vitória but Bebé moved to United very quickly after that improved contract was signed, and Reis then complained he was cut out of the deal.
Mendes has not said when he first discussed with Bebé the possibility of representing him and his Gestifute agency did not reply to a series of questions about the Bebé deal, although they have previously denied any wrongdoing.
Agent under scrutiny over Bebé transfer to Manchester United | Football | The Guardian
• New questions over bizarre transfer deal
• Bebé finally to make debut tonight
David Conn The Guardian, Wednesday 22 September 2010
Bebé is finally expected to play for the first team at Scunthorpe tonight. Photograph: Paul Thomas/Action Images
Manchester United have confirmed that the agent Jorge Mendes acted for Bebé when Sir Alex Ferguson signed the 20-year-old striker from the Portuguese first division club Vitória de Guimarães in the summer's most extraordinary transfer deal.
Bebé's previous agent, Gonçalo Reis, who had represented Bebé when he moved to Vitória just weeks earlier from the third division club Estrela da Amadora, has previously complained he was cut out of the deal before Bebé signed for United. Bebé, included in United's senior squad for the first time tonight, away at Scunthorpe United in the Carling Cup, had not played a single competitive match for Vitória, and Ferguson had not seen him play, when United's manager signed him for £7.4m.
It was known at the time that Mendes, the agent of Ferguson's former assistant and Portugal's then coach, Carlos Queiroz, and a string of Portuguese stars including Cristiano Ronaldo, had acted in the deal, but not that he was Bebé's own agent. A spokesman for United has now clarified that Mendes did act for Bebé in the transfer. "Jorge Mendes is Bebé's agent," the spokesman said. He added that United did not employ an agent themselves on the deal. "We dealt with Bebé's representative and the club."
Mendes's involvement as Bebé's agent raises the possibility that Reis could formally complain to Fifa that Bebé was "poached" from him, which, if proven, would be a breach of the worldwide regulations governing the conduct of agents. Reis would not comment on that, or on the revelation that Mendes acted for Bebé personally in the move.
Fifa's regulations require players and agents to have written contracts with each other, for a maximum of two years. Article 22 of the Fifa regulations prohibits an agent from contacting a player while he has "an exclusive representation contract" with another agent. That is considered to be poaching. A player can, as Bebé apparently did, terminate a contract early, but must have a valid legal reason for doing so or the agent can claim for lost business. Reis said at the time that he had a written contract to represent Bebé as his agent, which had some time left to run. Bebé did write to Reis to terminate that contract, but Reis said he received Bebé's letter on 13 August, two days after Bebé had already signed for United.
Mendes had put the news of Bebé's move, together with a picture of the two of them together, on the website of his agency, Gestifute, and Emilio Macedo, president of Vitória, was quoted formally thanking Mendes for his help, saying Mendes: "Brings money into the country like an export."
Ferguson later revealed that he had never seen Bebé play, in person or on video, before asking the club's chief executive, David Gill, to spend £7.4m signing him, the first time in Ferguson's 36 years as a manager that he has not watched a player he has signed. Bebé had played only pre-season matches for Vitória after moving from Estrela this summer, and Ferguson said Queiroz, at the time still Portugal's coach, had recommended that United sign the forward, a judgment supported by United's scouts in the country.
The fee United paid, £7.4m, was reported to be the buyout clause, €9m, which Vitória had inserted into a new, improved contract with Bebé signed shortly after he joined. Reis had brought Bebé to Vitória originally, and negotiated his first deal, said to be on a smaller wage with a more modest buyout clause. It is not known if Reis was involved in negotiating the enhanced, second deal at Vitória but Bebé moved to United very quickly after that improved contract was signed, and Reis then complained he was cut out of the deal.
Mendes has not said when he first discussed with Bebé the possibility of representing him and his Gestifute agency did not reply to a series of questions about the Bebé deal, although they have previously denied any wrongdoing.
Agent under scrutiny over Bebé transfer to Manchester United | Football | The Guardian
He is a Portuguese U21 international playing in a team of internationals. If he looks out of place against Scuntrip then what the hell had we spent 7m for?
Believe it or not, getting selected for the Portugese U-21 team does not instantly prepare a young footballer for the physicality of English lower league football.
Works both ways. Our opponents will certainly know nothing much about him and he can bring out that surprising and fresh factor on the pitch. Reckon he will come on as a sub though with Park and Obertan starting on the wings.
That's an unusually shoddy bit of journalism, even for a story about Bebe.
Mendes' involvement has been known about for weeks now. Yet they've somehow cobbled together several column inches of waffle based on a single totally hypothetical statement. Twats.
For a former homeless guy he looks to have settled in well. In a few years he will be a household name imho, he could really raise the roof at Old Trafford. Its important now that he dont build walls around himself but manages to unlock the door to a great career here.
He needs to be the architect of his own future,I just hope he wont engineer a move to another club before the writing is on the wall.
He needs to be the architect of his own future,I just hope he wont engineer a move to another club before the writing is on the wall.
If he appears and makes little impact tonight(even if it's just a short cameo) he'll get butchered in the rags tomorrow. Sad, sad state of affairs when tabloid journos have got it in for a 20 year old kid trying to make his way in the game and earn a living before he's even kicked a ball in anger, and for what? A chance to slag Fergie off as "senile" or whatever crap they are dying to write
Important is that the staff and the manager are behind him, and of course, the fans. If thats the case, the papers can write whatever they want - he doesnt speak english anyway
Weak
More ignorant writing from football journalists. This time The Telegraph:
Why not say "he is likely to start on the bench with Kusczak favoured in goal"?
It just shows how little the people who write these articles know as they can't even get his position right. If anything, he's likely to start on the bench to get Obertan some playing time in the first team as he is closer to a call up and may be called on with Valencia out for so long and also to get Park some real minutes under his belt.
The Daily Mail:
About as subtle as a gynaecolagist in a gas mask from The Daily Mail. Clearly looking for your reaction to be "oh no he's being compared to Bellion". Apparantly a first team player said that.... yet no quotes and what sort of First Team player would refer back to a player that left 5 years ago anyway? Utter bollocks.
Why not say "he is likely to start on the bench with Kusczak favoured in goal"?
It just shows how little the people who write these articles know as they can't even get his position right. If anything, he's likely to start on the bench to get Obertan some playing time in the first team as he is closer to a call up and may be called on with Valencia out for so long and also to get Park some real minutes under his belt.
The Daily Mail:
About as subtle as a gynaecolagist in a gas mask from The Daily Mail. Clearly looking for your reaction to be "oh no he's being compared to Bellion". Apparantly a first team player said that.... yet no quotes and what sort of First Team player would refer back to a player that left 5 years ago anyway? Utter bollocks.
That's true but at 6ft something Bebe is hardly a wimp. He should be able to withstand the physicality that the EPL offers.
What's his height got to do with not being used to such a physical game?
How does your height determine whether you are a wimp or not?
The journos must be licking their lips at the prospect of this game - if he does not bedazzle all and sundry tonight they will get on his back.
I foresee the Scunthorpe players giving him a very hard time tonight as they will know full well how much pressure he will be under to deliver.
Cue the mass journo attack tomorrow morning.
I foresee the Scunthorpe players giving him a very hard time tonight as they will know full well how much pressure he will be under to deliver.
Cue the mass journo attack tomorrow morning.
Someone ring Bebe' up and make sure he does a stepover Ronaldo-esque
He's only played a few games since signing and in one if those he started as the lone striker so hardly a ignorant point, or the Portugal U21 manager is ignorant too!
Re the Bellion remark, I think you are reading too much into it. Bellion was an absolute flying machine and it was comparing pace, not playing style etc.
If he has a poor game tonight he will get as much stick on here as he will get in the press.
I'm six feet something and I'd get killed playing in Premier League next to players of Sol Campbell's and Kenwyne Jones' size.
Everybody makes the bed they lie in. Get your own house in order before you criticise me.
He is tall and seems pretty much well build, not to forget that he is just a winger playing in a team which should be superior to the Scumtop team. I doubt that SAF would have played him unless he feels that he is ready.
No point being too sensitive about the media attacks. If you think the player has what it takes then in the long run the papers will love the guy. Because if this guy, with his background, becomes a top player then it will be one of the best stories in football.
I don't think he is that well built, he looked quite slim in the reserves game. Even so, it us bound to be a quicker and more physical game then he is used to and it will take a while to adapt, as with most foreign players and it will be a while until we see him at his best hence best to temper expectations.
I doubt it too.
The comment you've been taken to task on is this one though.
This seems to imply he should definitely look the business in an away game against a robust, physical lower league team - despite arriving in England for the first time a few weeks back - purely on the basis that he's been capped for the Portugese U-21s and cost us a few million quid. Which is daft.
Quite impressive IMO
Didn't have much time but he made an impact with his speed and directness. Promising.
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