Bebe | 2010/11 Performances

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It is clear the lad is very raw and desperate to impress and I hope he makes it but you can't help thinking or at least I can't that the money would have been better spent on somebody like Van der Vaart.
 
In terms of value, VdV is obviously the better choice...


but i believe in Bebe's potential. Physically he is a beast.
 
Probably about 170. Ferguson should set Giggs as his tutor.

Seriously though, he's done alright so far. Bit of a dodgy pass just after coming on, but he recovered well. Nice work to win a throw-in on the left with Sunderland players surrounding him too.

We've got to remember he's been pulled up a number of divisions. Give him time, and I think he'll come good.

I'll give him a season or two to settle for that matter. No rush I think. But I don't think he has to. The very little we've seen from him don't point to any bad directions. The fact that he was played today points to the positive lane.

Physical: Yes. Speed: Yes Ball control: Check Technique: Another check
Work Rate: Seems so yes Cinderella story: Hells yes
 
The most striking thing about his first two (brief) appearances is that he doesn't look out of place. If he'd come in from our reserves, or from a background of a couple of dozen appearances in the Portuguese First Division we'd all be feeling pretty comfortable we were looking at real potential. As it is, the pricetag is an albatross & distorts the view.

Personally I think he's already made an impressive transition. After the first grim reports about his fitness and form in training, I was hoping that he'd be playing well with the reserves by Christmas, now I'm hoping to see him contributing to the first team.
 
Got a great physique on him. Very Valencia-like, probably even stronger and pacier.
 
Horrendous waste of money. He'll not amount to anything and I'll be surprised if we haven't shipped him off to Wigan, or a club like that, by the end of next season. Anyone who is confident that he's going to 'make it' on the basis of his pace and good physique alone is off his head. And you can quote me on that.
 
Horrendous waste of money. He'll not amount to anything and I'll be surprised if we haven't shipped him off to Wigan, or a club like that, by the end of next season. Anyone who is confident that he's going to 'make it' on the basis of his pace and good physique alone is off his head. And you can quote me on that.

Done.

What a completely unjustified load of drivel.

It may well turn out to be correct, but you can have no way of knowing at this stage in his career.
 
Horrendous waste of money. He'll not amount to anything and I'll be surprised if we haven't shipped him off to Wigan, or a club like that, by the end of next season. Anyone who is confident that he's going to 'make it' on the basis of his pace and good physique alone is off his head. And you can quote me on that.

"Look at me, i'm a cnut!"
 
Horrendous waste of money. He'll not amount to anything and I'll be surprised if we haven't shipped him off to Wigan, or a club like that, by the end of next season. Anyone who is confident that he's going to 'make it' on the basis of his pace and good physique alone is off his head. And you can quote me on that.

And you've come to your conclusion... how? I guess you're "off your head"
 
Done.

What a completely unjustified load of drivel.

It may well turn out to be correct, but you can have no way of knowing at this stage in his career.

It's no more unjustified than the posts exclaiming that he's likely to develop into a top player. On balance of everything, I think my prediction is more likely to come true than a prediction that he'll still be here in 5 years time, banging in goals like a United-quality striker. Yet if I were to make the latter prediction, nobody would bat an eyelid. That's how deluded our fan base seems to be.
 
Not the best game to come on and make an impression, and of course the Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime are jumping on the bandwagon, as the press will too.

Lets see what Fergie can do with him after he's been at the club for 2 years. THEN we can judge whether he's been a wrong buy or not.
 
Missed the match today saw he got in, how shit was he?
 
It's no more unjustified than the posts exclaiming that he's likely to develop into a top player. On balance of everything, I think my prediction is more likely to come true than a prediction that he'll still be here in 5 years time, banging in goals like a United-quality striker. Yet if I were to make the latter prediction, nobody would bat an eyelid. That's how deluded our fan base seems to be.

:lol:

The fact you actually seem to think you've seen enough to make any prediction at all is quite amusing.

Why don't you just list the names of every player in our squad, aged 20 years or under, and boldly predict they won't be a first-team regular in another 5 years time? You'll be right as far as the vast majority are concerned, which seems to matter to you. You'll still come across as a bit of a knob though.
 
It's no more unjustified than the posts exclaiming that he's likely to develop into a top player. On balance of everything, I think my prediction is more likely to come true than a prediction that he'll still be here in 5 years time, banging in goals like a United-quality striker. Yet if I were to make the latter prediction, nobody would bat an eyelid. That's how deluded our fan base seems to be.

People are making observations based on what little we've seen and heard of him, nobody's claiming he's nailed on to be a United legend, if anything the only thing we all seem to agree on is that nobody knows what he's going to be like. Why the feck you think it reasonable then to post that ill-founded cretinous shite above is beyond me; the only explanation is that you're a boring, attention-seeking wum. Well here's your attention you little shit...
 
It's no more unjustified than the posts exclaiming that he's likely to develop into a top player. On balance of everything, I think my prediction is more likely to come true than a prediction that he'll still be here in 5 years time, banging in goals like a United-quality striker. Yet if I were to make the latter prediction, nobody would bat an eyelid. That's how deluded our fan base seems to be.

You're just as deluded as those making the unjustified posts saying he'll be the next big thing (though I don't think i've seen anyone say that). It's just that you're the opposite end of the spectrum.

I know if I was going to be deluded (:)) then i'd rather be optimistic than a miserable cnut like you.
 
Horrendous waste of money. He'll not amount to anything and I'll be surprised if we haven't shipped him off to Wigan, or a club like that, by the end of next season. Anyone who is confident that he's going to 'make it' on the basis of his pace and good physique alone is off his head. And you can quote me on that.

Ralphe Milne got more time to prove himself than Bebe has, for you to be making such a sweeping prediction. Still we'll hold you to your words by the end of next season.
 
Horrendous waste of money. He'll not amount to anything and I'll be surprised if we haven't shipped him off to Wigan, or a club like that, by the end of next season. Anyone who is confident that he's going to 'make it' on the basis of his pace and good physique alone is off his head. And you can quote me on that.

True. We should only give players 10 minutes to prove themselves, then declare them "Horrendous wastes of money."

Seems like a good system.
 
Was I right in thinking Nani moved to the left so he could play on the right when he came on?
 
i'd like to see bebe start asap and given massive amounts of time when valencia is out so we know where we stand with the lad. same with all of our other youth/bubble players. I'll be happy to finish top 4 and a qf run in the cl if it means our youth/new signings get enough games and time whereby at the end of the season we know who needs to go and who is worthy of staying.
 
he wasn't. he didn't have time enough to even break a sweat.

Didn't stop him from trying, he was all over the place. For a former homeless guy he certainly seems to have a great work ethic.
 
If he'd come in from our reserves, or from a background of a couple of dozen appearances in the Portuguese First Division we'd all be feeling pretty comfortable we were looking at real potential. As it is, the pricetag is an albatross & distorts the view.

Fair point.
 
I have it from a good source that we were stitched up in the Bebe deal. He works for Maurice Watkins firm and has been involved in many of Uniteds transfers over the past 7 or 8 years. He was most recently out in Guadalajara doing the Hernandez deal.

Madrid were never after him. Jorge Mendes is his agent. He is also Mourinho's agent.

It doesnt take a genius to work out where the Bebe to Madrid storys came from.

Carlos Queiroz also took a cut of the deal.
 
I have it from a good source that we were stitched up in the Bebe deal. He works for Maurice Watkins firm and has been involved in many of Uniteds transfers over the past 7 or 8 years. He was most recently out in Guadalajara doing the Hernandez deal.

Madrid were never after him. Jorge Mendes is his agent. He is also Mourinho's agent.

It doesnt take a genius to work out where the Bebe to Madrid storys came from.

Carlos Queiroz also took a cut of the deal.

:lol:
 
I have seen nothing in him that remotely suggests he is ever going to be good enough for us. One doesn't need 90 minutes to tell if a player is good enough for a side of United's calibre, it is really black and white in the sense that if someone is good enough one will easily see it after only watching him for a few minutes and then there comes the question of whether that player is good enough to be a regular or a backup.

In Bebe's case, however moving his story maybe, he quite simply isn't good enough be a backup or a regular.
 
I have seen nothing in him that remotely suggests he is ever going to be good enough for us. One doesn't need 90 minutes to tell if a player is good enough for a side of United's calibre, it is really black and white in the sense that if someone is good enough one will easily see it after only watching him for a few minutes and then there comes the question of whether that player is good enough to be a regular or a backup.

In Bebe's case, however moving his story maybe, he quite simply isn't good enough be a backup or a regular.

so that is why scouts watch players 10/15 times before making a call, for the most part. Cause after 10mins they should already know.

Fair enough.
 
I have seen nothing in him that remotely suggests he is ever going to be good enough for us. One doesn't need 90 minutes to tell if a player is good enough for a side of United's calibre, it is really black and white in the sense that if someone is good enough one will easily see it after only watching him for a few minutes and then there comes the question of whether that player is good enough to be a regular or a backup.

In Bebe's case, however moving his story maybe, he quite simply isn't good enough be a backup or a regular.

:wenger::wenger::wenger:
 
I have it from a good source that we were stitched up in the Bebe deal. He works for Maurice Watkins firm and has been involved in many of Uniteds transfers over the past 7 or 8 years. He was most recently out in Guadalajara doing the Hernandez deal.

Madrid were never after him. Jorge Mendes is his agent. He is also Mourinho's agent.

It doesnt take a genius to work out where the Bebe to Madrid storys came from.

Carlos Queiroz also took a cut of the deal.

Oh dear...
 
I have seen nothing in him that remotely suggests he is ever going to be good enough for us. One doesn't need 90 minutes to tell if a player is good enough for a side of United's calibre, it is really black and white in the sense that if someone is good enough one will easily see it after only watching him for a few minutes and then there comes the question of whether that player is good enough to be a regular or a backup.

In Bebe's case, however moving his story maybe, he quite simply isn't good enough be a backup or a regular.

Oh dear, oh dear...
 
ridiculous how some of you have made up your minds on a new signing without even giving hIm a shot. I feel like reminding some of you how big a step it is for him and that adjusting will take time, but we've barely seen the lad.

Drogba was a but of a joke in his first season with chelae. And before anyone pulls out some rubbish Stats do realize the point I'm trying to make.
 
ridiculous how some of you have made up your minds on a new signing without even giving hIm a shot. I feel like reminding some of you how big a step it is for him and that adjusting will take time, but we've barely seen the lad.

Drogba was a but of a joke in his first season with chelae. And before anyone pulls out some rubbish Stats do realize the point I'm trying to make.

Well yes and no.

Writing players off an the basis of watching them once or twice in the reserves is a bit of given in these forums.

Drogba was never a joke in his first season. Chelsea bought a player whose goals helped his side to UEFA cup final.May have had to adjust and learn but he was always a goalscorer
 
I have seen nothing in him that remotely suggests he is ever going to be good enough for us. One doesn't need 90 minutes to tell if a player is good enough for a side of United's calibre, it is really black and white in the sense that if someone is good enough one will easily see it after only watching him for a few minutes and then there comes the question of whether that player is good enough to be a regular or a backup.

In Bebe's case, however moving his story maybe, he quite simply isn't good enough be a backup or a regular.

Shucks, with all due respect, I shudder to think what your thoughts of Fletcher or Evra was before they "settled" in. :nervous:
 
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