add to that berbatovs 30 assists to keanes 17
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In all honesty, United need to sign no one, procided The Best Player in the World stays, as much as I like Berbs and Richards they'd just be icing on the cake, this squad has already shown they can do the business
Think he will team up great with the Trinity
If only Saha stays fit. Btw, no news of Berbatov yet? Think we may to wait next week or so.
fergie is off to africa isnt he ... no CQ
gill to take care of business
gill to take care of business
I think it's down to Spurs playing hard ball once again, but they will crack, as Always
As always, United will overpay to maintain harmonious relation.
You took me all wrong mate.
Berbatov will not replace Ronaldo but since no winger in the world can fullfill all the tasks Ronaldo do, then we need to strengthen other areas as well. The winger will cater for the winger's tasks Ronaldo had been doing while Berbatov will cater to the goal scoring part.
That's a terrible scoring record for someone rated so highly.
-------------Berbatov
Ronaldo------Ronney------Tevez
-----Anderson-----Hargreaves
It could work
Ronaldo------Ronney------Tevez
-----Anderson-----Hargreaves
It could work
Since when Tevez is a right winger?
EDIT: feck all that, play 4-4-2
----------Berbatov------------
Ronaldo-----Rooney-------Nani/hargreaves
-------Scholes--Carrick------
I think that will be our formations for most our big games. In the biggger games I think berbatov will start ahead of tevez but its hard to say as the way we played against chelsea in the first half of the cl final tevez deserves to play. Howeve he's a great option to come off the bench in the bigger games.
Berbatov, Manucho, Ronaldo, Welbeck, Rooney, Tevez, Saha.
All would be vying for the forward options and all can play there. I am happy with our options. They really are fantastic.
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If berbatov comes, Bloody hell!!.
Ronaldo-----Rooney-------Nani/hargreaves
-------Scholes--Carrick------
I think that will be our formations for most our big games. In the biggger games I think berbatov will start ahead of tevez but its hard to say as the way we played against chelsea in the first half of the cl final tevez deserves to play. Howeve he's a great option to come off the bench in the bigger games.
Berbatov, Manucho, Ronaldo, Welbeck, Rooney, Tevez, Saha.
All would be vying for the forward options and all can play there. I am happy with our options. They really are fantastic.
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If berbatov comes, Bloody hell!!.
If Ronaldo leaves then we will have to change system. I mean we will never be able to find a 42 goal per season winger, capable of cutting inside and pose a threat (even from headers). Therefore we either bring in a quality winger AND a quality striker (in this case Berbatov) or else we move to a 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 system with a 'defensive' midfield made up of Hargreaves - Carrick/Scholes - Anderson/Fletcher and a forward line consisting of Tevez - Rooney and Berbatov. The latter may make us too play too central expecially if we dont invest in a quality attacking minded right back.
If Berbatov plays the number of games ronaldo played for us last season he will surely score 20+ goals.
There's these two players United have called Carrick and Scholes who are great to watch in the middle together. Fair enough Scholes is getting on a bit but honestly mate they take the piss out of most pairings.
Also Hargreaves didn't look very good for us when he played in the middle. Later in the season Fergie moved him out to the right more often and he started to win people over.
Also look out for Nani and another old guy called Giggs. They're pretty good too.
Don't think its been posted... From Setanta News. 1in .. 1 out?? which one though!!...
Reported Tottenham target Diego Capel claims Juande Ramos has spoken to his agent and the forward says he is ready to leave Sevilla if a deal can be struck.
The 20-year-old has earned rave reviews for Sevilla and reports suggest a host of teams are jockeying his position.
Andalucian president Jose Maria del Nido claims to have snubbed a £12 million bid for his starlet, but Capel is remaining calm in the face of mounting speculation.
“My future has been discussed a lot this summer but at the moment I’m under contract with Sevilla,” Capel told Diario de Sevilla. “Nevertheless you never know what can happen in the football world.
“For sure everybody wants to grow as a footballer, I’m at a great club, but you always have better objectives.”
When asked if he is aware of Tottenham’s interest in his services, Capel said: “I know there’s something but the club [Sevilla] trust me and I owe them for this confidence.
“[Juande Ramos] didn’t speak to me, he did with my agent I presume, yes. My representatives deal with this.
“I think Sevilla’s president has all the right in the world to do this [snubbing an offer]. Right now I belong to Sevilla, I’m under contract here [until 2011] and that needs to be respected.
Reported Tottenham target Diego Capel claims Juande Ramos has spoken to his agent and the forward says he is ready to leave Sevilla if a deal can be struck.
The 20-year-old has earned rave reviews for Sevilla and reports suggest a host of teams are jockeying his position.
Andalucian president Jose Maria del Nido claims to have snubbed a £12 million bid for his starlet, but Capel is remaining calm in the face of mounting speculation.
“My future has been discussed a lot this summer but at the moment I’m under contract with Sevilla,” Capel told Diario de Sevilla. “Nevertheless you never know what can happen in the football world.
“For sure everybody wants to grow as a footballer, I’m at a great club, but you always have better objectives.”
When asked if he is aware of Tottenham’s interest in his services, Capel said: “I know there’s something but the club [Sevilla] trust me and I owe them for this confidence.
“[Juande Ramos] didn’t speak to me, he did with my agent I presume, yes. My representatives deal with this.
“I think Sevilla’s president has all the right in the world to do this [snubbing an offer]. Right now I belong to Sevilla, I’m under contract here [until 2011] and that needs to be respected.
From Setanta Ramos Speaking About Berbatov
“We’re going to see how this ends, but we’re speaking about two very important footballers,” Ramos told AS.
“For the moment they are with us but whatever happens our plan is to have a good squad with a potential that helps us to do better than last year.”
... “At Tottenham we have had a clear philosophy regarding buying and selling for years. You need to understand that this club is in the transfer market, a company that needs to debrief at the end of the financial year.
“The idea is signing young players, promising and talented ones, and if important offers for older players are made, studying it to see what is the best for the club.”
Its pretty positive and at least he's not denying it!
“We’re going to see how this ends, but we’re speaking about two very important footballers,” Ramos told AS.
“For the moment they are with us but whatever happens our plan is to have a good squad with a potential that helps us to do better than last year.”
... “At Tottenham we have had a clear philosophy regarding buying and selling for years. You need to understand that this club is in the transfer market, a company that needs to debrief at the end of the financial year.
“The idea is signing young players, promising and talented ones, and if important offers for older players are made, studying it to see what is the best for the club.”
Its pretty positive and at least he's not denying it!
He's a winger though isn't he. Or atleast he's played on the left the couple of time i've seen him
You could be right... From SkySPorts
Player details
Name Trinidad Diego Capel
Age 20
Club Sevilla
Position Midfielder
Squad No 17
Born Almeria, Spain
Capel is a winger. Spurs are apparently back in for Arshavin though and he would be a logical Berbatov replacement.
Good stuff. Fingers crossed they don't get linked with any logical Keane replacements, over the next few weeks.
Arshavin would be more of a replacement for Keane. He'd be the mobile player with Berbatov being a more static target in the middle. Certainly Arshavin couldn't replicate Keane's goalscoring, but he'd probably counter that with a lot of assists for Berbatov.
On the other hand, Arshavin + Keane is not a strikeforce I'd fear. It certainly wouldn't be anywhere near as good as Berbatov + Keane.
On the other hand, Arshavin + Keane is not a strikeforce I'd fear. It certainly wouldn't be anywhere near as good as Berbatov + Keane.
SAF admits Berbatov bid
Sir Alex has been speaking to the editor of the fanzine of the MUSC Scandinavian Branch before the departure to South Africa were he admits that the club has tabled a bid for Berbatov.
- We have submitted a bid for Bebatov, and we're optimistic about the prospect of signing him. He's impressed over a long period of time and would make a good addition to the squad, SAF says.
He admits that he would love to bring Berbatov to the pre-season tour to RSA, but says that the clubs is in no rush.
- We're in no rush and are hopeful to stage constructive negotiations with Tottenham soon.
Asked about Ronaldo, he didn't want to say much apart from "dealing with the matter it in a correct way".
http://www.united.no/united/nyheter/nyheter/tror_paa_berbatov_kjoep
Sir Alex has been speaking to the editor of the fanzine of the MUSC Scandinavian Branch before the departure to South Africa were he admits that the club has tabled a bid for Berbatov.
- We have submitted a bid for Bebatov, and we're optimistic about the prospect of signing him. He's impressed over a long period of time and would make a good addition to the squad, SAF says.
He admits that he would love to bring Berbatov to the pre-season tour to RSA, but says that the clubs is in no rush.
- We're in no rush and are hopeful to stage constructive negotiations with Tottenham soon.
Asked about Ronaldo, he didn't want to say much apart from "dealing with the matter it in a correct way".
http://www.united.no/united/nyheter/nyheter/tror_paa_berbatov_kjoep
True that but im still PMSL at the mugs who went ott saying i cant see how scholes will get back in, do we need scholes etc etc
Its all about position, rooney cant shoot from left or right wing back. Even wing is tricky unless you are the best player in the world
I'd like too see this team next season (if Berbatov is signed)
------------------------VDS------------------------
Brown/Neville-----Rio-----------Vidic-------------Evra
----------Carrick/Hargo-------Anderson/Scholes-------
--Rooney---------------Tevez---------------Ronaldo--
-----------------------Berbatov----------------------
The 3 behind Berbatov can just roam around, swapping positions, even swapping with Berbatov at times. Would be
Young is right here, whilst im sure your team will take the pitch several times this is a much better balanced side...its rooney's and tevez's optimal position. Nani has shown promise and will need plenty of games to keep developing
berbatov will be a united next season so there is no need to imagine this impossible scenarios, they will sell berbatov ahead of keane because they will get more for berba, he is older and keane is their captain.
Okay. But that doesnt suddenly make Arshavin a different player. They'll need a another replacement for Berbatov.
You must also take into account that its likely nobody will offer £20 million for Keane after this year and that he's reportedly told Spurs he's dying to move to the club he supported as a kid, Liverpool.
We have Jol's comments about Berbatov having his heart set on United. But he hasn't exactly done a Gareth Barry / Ronaldo - yet. And if Keane were to express himself in such a way it might be that they decide to let him go instead.
Realistically, Spurs could attract another player of Keane's quality. They could not replace Berbatov. They just might have the desire, ambition and resolve to keep a hold of him. And then its down to the player and how badly he really wants to come.
If this was me id be getting victimised and gaining infractions for "general muppetry"..Im going to save this post and regurgitate it on a regular basis throughout the season to see if you've changed your mind just a little
Arshavin is a much more natural replacement for Berbatov than he is for Keane.
Im going to save this post and regurgitate it on a regular basis throughout the season to see if you've changed your mind just a little
do it to the mug, he will deserve it
is this real or BS?
Because :
A) He can play as a target?
B) He likes to stay in central areas?
C) He's great in the air?
He's a mobile player like Keane. The only difference is Keane is known to score a lot more goals. But Arshavin's passing is very good and he'd create a lot of oppertunities.
Exactly. He is more of a play maker like Berbatov than a player of Keane's ilk. It's strikers like Garcia or Sant cruza who will replace what Keane brings to Spurs IMO.
I can guarentee you it's real. I've been a member of the Scandinavian Branch for 18 years, and every pre-season he's talking exclusively to our member fanzine where he share he's thoughts for the coming season.
The whole interview will be published at the start of the season in the print edition.
The editor, who's written the article, would never jeopardize the wrath of sir Alex by writing something like this if it wasn't true.
a little bit of nonsense really.
Berbatov has to create more in his own right at spurs... they've adapted the partnership accordingly. If you look at keane's past goal scoring record its hardly been amazing.
oh right, well im guessing that it will be all over sky sports then in the next couple of hours, or reported in some english online newspapers, he cant get away with saying something like that without the english media having a spuff frenzy.
Not really for either in a direct sense..think its clear we'll see a vastly different spurs team this season in the way they approach games
Berbatov has qualities that Arshavin does not (i.e. good in the air, able to play as lone front-man) but they will miss Berbatov most for his skill on the ball and ability to create opportunities for those around him. Arshavin will compensate for his departure in this regard.
Keane is an out and out, predatory striker. Arshavin is nothing of the kind.
If Arshavin was signed to replace either of them, he will have a much better chance of replacing Berbatov than he will Keane.
The ideal solution for Spurs if they both leave, would be to replace Berbatov with Arshavin and Keane with a big, tall striker (e.g. Santa Cruz or Pavluychenko)
If They only sell Berbatov, Keane and Arshavin could form a decent partnership.
If they only sell Keane, Berbatov and Arshavin would get in each other's way.
You say it like you can't have more than one playmaker. And then you want to team Berbatov with Rooney... Arshavin will work the channels and do most of the running work, like Keane. Again, he wont score the goals Keane has but he'd create more. The thing is, most of you say Berbatov would score 20+ league goals for us next season without a problem. If thats the case he should get something of the same playing next to another very good creative player in Arshavin.
Arshavin + Keane = no target player. Arshavin can drift out of matches completely as we saw at the Euros and Keane has always played best with a target man next to him.
At this point, he would certainly be more of a Keane replacement due to how he plays. But they'd need to look elsewhere to find the replacement for his goals. Either another signing or, if Berbatov stays, he'd be the goalscorer. Because he wont be on the bench.
I'm sorry, but we're supposedly buying Berbatov as a target to play off and as our 20+ league goal scorer.
He is not going to get in Arshavin's way, who makes best use of his talents coming from central onto the wings and creating.
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