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Nah bollocks, why should Berbatov suffer, and us for that matter.

I've always been a bit reluctant about buying him, certainly at the crazy valuations being placed on him by Spurs fans (10m more than Keane!!).

Don't really want to see us handing over a big check to that baldy fecker.
 
These allegedly dodgy quotes first appeared in an MUFC officially-endorsed major fanzine.

Keep on repeating 'The Sun' mantra if it gives you comfort - but the quotes did not originate with them.

And the quotes are a minor sideshow - think 'alleged tapping up' and you'll get to the substance of the issue.

You are really going to look like a fool, VERY soon.
 
There is no fecking evidence, Levy has just blown his load at an article he read in The Sun, probably got out of bed the wrong side or maybe cum in his missus' eye the night before and got a bitch slapping, who knows, all I know is he is going to end up looking like a twat and Berbatov will be strutting his stuff at Old Trafford this season.
 
I've always been a bit reluctant about buying him, certainly at the crazy valuations being placed on him by Spurs fans (10m more than Keane!!).

Don't really want to see us handing over a big check to that baldy fecker.

Fair dos, I'm of the opinion that all this is nothing more than we have to deal with in most transfers these days anyway, plus I feel Berbatov will be a sensation at United and we will do what is required to get him.
 
C'mon Glaston in the Ashely Cole farrago there were pictures of Cole, Kenyon and Mourinho in a secret meeting. What happened? Did Chelsea get docked points? Did Cole end up going to Chelsea?
Chelsea got a fine and suspended sentence of points docking, as far as I recall, but I may be wrong.

But that was then, this is now. If these latest allegations are proved, the PL may well decide that they must go much further this time around in an attempt to stop such practices once and for all - who knows, but we shall see.
 
These allegedly dodgy quotes first appeared in an MUFC officially-endorsed major fanzine.

Keep on repeating 'The Sun' mantra if it gives you comfort - but the quotes did not originate with them.

And the quotes are a minor sideshow - think 'alleged tapping up' and you'll get to the substance of the issue.

MUFC officially endorsed fanzine??? Do MUFC officially endorse fanzines? Do they endorse Red Issue and United We Stand? Where is this fanzine with these quotes?

No, your nutcase chairman publicly attacked Alex Ferguson over these quotes in The Sun even though he had no proof that The Sun got them from the mouth of Alex Ferguson.

It's all there in that first paragraph in the statement.

And that is what nutcase will need to apologise for.

Until these super secret videos and phone recordings come out then it's Levy who is on the wrong, as are you.
 
These allegedly dodgy quotes first appeared in an MUFC officially-endorsed major fanzine.

Keep on repeating 'The Sun' mantra if it gives you comfort - but the quotes did not originate with them.

And the quotes are a minor sideshow - think 'alleged tapping up' and you'll get to the substance of the issue.


So Berbatov personally told you that he is being tapped up by SAF, after you bent over and let him tap you ?
 
Chelsea got a fine and suspended sentence of points docking, as far as I recall, but I may be wrong.

But that was then, this is now. If these latest allegations are proved, the PL may well decide that they must go much further this time around in an attempt to stop such practices once and for all - who knows, but we shall see.

We'll see nothing, stop being a fecking drama queen.

Levy is just appeasing you gullible lot, nothing more of substance will come of this, apart from you handing over Berbatov to us and recieving a rather large cheque in return.
 
So Berbatov personally told you that he is being tapped up by SAF, after you bent over and let him tap you ?

^ :lol::lol:

and apparently we have tabled a bid so its not like spurs weren't contacted about our interest in berbatov.
 
We'll see nothing, stop being a fecking drama queen .. nothing more of substance will come of this ..
There speaks the authentic voice of complacency.

I guess you believe that MUFC are so great, so powerful and so above the PL laws of game than no one and nothing can ever touch you. It's a nice fantasy - arrogant, but nice.

It won't be so nice when reality dawns.
 
There speaks the authentic voice of complacency.

I guess you believe that MUFC are so great, so powerful and so above the PL laws of game than no one and nothing can ever touch you. It's a nice fantasy - arrogant, but nice.

It won't be so nice when reality dawns.

:lol:

This isn't a wind up is it, you actually believe all this secret evidence you speak of don't you?

:lol::lol:
 
There speaks the authentic voice of complacency.

I guess you believe that MUFC are so great, so powerful and so above the PL laws of game than no one and nothing can ever touch you. It's a nice fantasy - arrogant, but nice.

It won't be so nice when reality dawns.

If spurs had anything on United, believe me they'd have reported them a long time ago. Why leave it so late in the day? If they'd have wanted to keep Berbatov, they'd surely have done all this months ago

As it is, they're using this story - which apparently is the tip of the iceberg? I don't think so. If you worry a club is turning the players head you nip it in the bud. You don't take risks prolonging the situation by being silent
 
This isn't a wind up is it, you actually believe all this secret evidence you speak of don't you?
This isn't a wind-up, you actually believe Levy is just going to hand the PL a photo-copy of the Sun article don't you?

:lol: :lol:
 
Levy has video footage on his Nokia N85 of Berbatov meeting with a spokesmen off the 'MUFC officially-endorsed major fanzine'.
 
This isn't a wind-up, you actually believe Levy is just going to hand the PL a photo-copy of the Sun article don't you?

:lol: :lol:

Wouldn't surprise me tbh, he's raised this complaint straight after bullshit quotes from The Sun, coincidence?

What I believe is that you'll sell us Berbatov in the next few days and all this will mysteriously never be talked about again after that.

Not an unusual situation in modern day transfers at all.

You are a tad gullible Glasto, it has to be said.
 
I've said all I want to say on this until further news emerges. What will happen will happen regardless of what's said on here by me or anyone else.

I leave those that feel so inclined to indulge in an endless torrent of Spurs-bashing and complacent, self-comforting comments.

Have fun.
 
I've said all I want to say on this until further news emerges. What will happen will happen regardless of what's said on here by me or anyone else.

I leave those that feel so inclined to indulge in an endless torrent of Spurs-bashing and complacent, self-comforting comments.

Have fun.

:lol:

Quit while you are behind ey Glasto?

Understandable, at least the Spurs fan base can rest easy for a bit, safe in the knowledge that their Redcafe representative is embarrassing them no longer.
 
I leave those that feel so inclined to indulge in an endless torrent of Spurs-bashing and complacent, self-comforting comments.

:lol: We can take comfort in the fact two of our best players have not readily been made available for transfer. Two other shiny things come to mind as well until the new season gets underway.
 
Coming to think of it, Berbatov would fit in so perfectly well.

He's a must have.
 
Poor Spurs, with a chairman like that, then no wonder they are the third best team in London.
 
I'm intrigued as to whether we are actually going to get him now after all of this, by pissing off their chairman it will have no doubt lessened our chances of getting him, hope we don't get accused of any wrong doing.

I really would love it if we got him, my cock would be out for days, but im worried now after all this, and i dont think i can cope with another ongoing transfer saga which lasts the whole summer. I find myself every half hour checking news now for updates on this transfer and its not healthy... i need clarity!! any one else in this boat!?
 
I'm intrigued as to whether we are actually going to get him now after all of this, by pissing off their chairman it will have no doubt lessened our chances of getting him, hope we don't get accused of any wrong doing.

I really would love it if we got him, my cock would be out for days, but im worried now after all this, and i dont think i can cope with another ongoing transfer saga which lasts the whole summer. I find myself every half hour checking news now for updates on this transfer and its not healthy... i need clarity!! any one else in this boat!?

Fear not, I am fairly sure we will have him this season, it's gone too far now not to in my opinion.
 
Levy is already resigned to losing them, he has admitted so in his statement.
 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article4364312.ece

From The Sunday Times
July 20, 2008
Fergie goes to war over Berbatov allegations

Sir Alex Ferguson is considering legal action against the Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy as Berbatov row continues

Jonathan Northcroft in Cape Town

SIR ALEX FERGUSON is considering legal action against the Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy as the row over Manchester United’s pursuit of striker Dimitar Berbatov threatens to escalate into an ugly confrontation between the clubs. Ferguson is incandescent about a statement by Levy in which he branded the United manager “unbelievably hypocritical” and accused him of “sheer arrogance”.

Levy has also made a complaint to the Premier League regarding Ferguson’s conduct in his attempts to sign Berbatov, for whom United have bid £20m. United indicated last night that this would be vigorously contested.

At the centre of the argument are quotes attributed to Ferguson in The Sun, which he categorically denies having given. The newspaper quoted Ferguson as saying he was confident of signing Berbatov. Levy interpreted this as “interference” with regard to his player, labelling it “probably one of the worst offences by any manager in the Premier League to date”.

However, Ferguson, speaking in Cape Town after United drew 1-1 with Kaizer Chiefs in the first game of their South African tour, hit back in the strongest terms. “It is going to be very embarrassing for Tottenham because they have based their complaint on a story in The Sun. I don’t know where they got these quotes from, but it certainly wasn’t me,” Ferguson said.
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“I haven’t seen [Levy’s statement] yet. I have just been given the gist of it by our press officer. But I’m sure our legal people will be looking at it.”

Unless it can be proved that Ferguson made the comments in dispute, Levy could find himself defending a defamation case. However, last night Tottenham said that they stood firmly by the statement.

In all likelihood, the row has strengthened United’s chances of signing Berbatov, who joined Spurs in May 2006 for £10.9m. Levy was determined to play hardball over the 27-year-old Bulgarian striker, for whom he is thought to be seeking £30m, but he may have to be more accommodating should he find himself trying to persuade Ferguson not to sue.

Barcelona are also interested in Berbatov and are reported to be ready to offer Tottenham £24m for his services.

Looks like they think we are in a strong position after all this
 
fecking hypocrites. Remind me how they tapped up Ramos and Poyet again.

Just how is what we're doing worse than whatever they're doing with Bentley?
 
'MUFC officially-endorsed major fanzine'

Sir Alex has been speaking to the editor of the fanzine of the MUSC Scandinavian Branch before the departure to South Africa were he admits that the club has tabled a bid for Berbatov.

- We have submitted a bid for Bebatov, and we're optimistic about the prospect of signing him. He's impressed over a long period of time and would make a good addition to the squad, SAF says.

He admits that he would love to bring Berbatov to the pre-season tour to RSA, but says that the clubs is in no rush.

- We're in no rush and are hopeful to stage constructive negotiations with Tottenham soon.

Asked about Ronaldo, he didn't want to say much apart from "dealing with the matter it in a correct way".

http://www.united.no/united/nyheter/nyheter/tror_paa_berbatov_kjoep

That was the breaking story what started all of this. Note it got taken down with half an hour.

That's so two pages ago

I still find it hard to believe that Fergie would comment on a possible transfer like this.

No doubt the media will report it now saying that "respected website United.no reports that Fergie admits United have bid for Berbatov" just like that Brazilian website suddenly became a "respected website" when it carried the Ronaldo quotes.

Correct.
 
So Levy, in an effort to do the hard man act for the supporters, may have actually put himself in a very vulnerable position when it comes to negotiating a fee for Berbatov, and could therefore have cost Tottenham a few million pounds.

The dipstick
 
That was the breaking story what started all of this. Note it got taken down with half an hour.



Correct.
Just think, that post by jorgenbh above may be the basis of this whole thing! Custis or one of minions trawling RedCafe comes across it and rips off the quotes without any idea whether they are valid, and without mentioning the source.

It's going to be very interesting to see how The Sun and the News of The World play this.

You're going to look ridiculous if you have to admit you took quotes from a norwegian fansite and passed them off as an exclusive interview. They'll be building up United.no as an authority at the same level as The NY Times. And they won't be explaining why the quotes were only posted for half an hour if they were valid and on-the-record.

(Would The Sun try and bribe the noggies to give them the tapes or notes if they exist, and pretend that Fergie was talking to The Sun?)

And Levy will have to explain how quotes transmitted in this way were "public comments" that he is so sure came from the mouth of SAF that he is free to defame his character in public over them.
 
So Levy, in an effort to do the hard man act for the supporters, may have actually put himself in a very vulnerable position when it comes to negotiating a fee for Berbatov, and could therefore have cost Tottenham a few million pounds.

The dipstick

Pretty much, yes.
 
So Levy, in an effort to do the hard man act for the supporters, may have actually put himself in a very vulnerable position when it comes to negotiating a fee for Berbatov, and could therefore have cost Tottenham a few million pounds.

The dipstick

Wishful thinking. He already looks like a moron for putting all his faith in The Sun. He'll probably try to show he is still in control by making a big song and dance over the transfer and drag it out as long as possible to appease the Spurs fans.
 
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