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And now there are Tevez and Rooney. So what?

As I told you, you are critising players on what Berbatov DID.

:boring:

Berbatov is now a better partner for Rooney/Tevez, Van Nistelrooy was the better partner back then.

Berbatov did nothing wrong, he wouldn't have gotten a game here.
 
What do you think about buying the swedish goalkeeper Andreas Isaksson from Shitty, Glaston? Attracting interest from PSV Eindhoven and Galatasaray at the moment. At £2M he would be a bargain, and you are in great need of a keeper.
 
That's quite sad.

Yes, I agree. The fact you are trying to point out other users for being quite ignorant to stand out when you are starting to get a bit of a reputation for things like that yourself and are also contradicting yourself all over this thread is quite sad Brwned.
 
Yes, i agree. The fact you are trying to point out other users for being quite ignorant to stand out when you are starting to get a bit of a reputation for things like that yourself and are also contradicting yourself all over this thread is quite sad Brwned.

Exactly what I was thinking. Good to know your life is so sad that you follow my reputation so intently.
 
Exactly what I was thinking. Good to know your life is so sad that you follow my reputation so intently.

Yeah good one, the old sad for following me thing when you seem to be clued up on the rep of GlastonSpur. Even though you know fully well it is because you have spouted some nonsense in my direction and that is why I noticed. Just pipe down on the insulting and disregarding the validity of peoples viewpoint on a net forum as if you have some sort of greater knowledge because that is what is quite sad. ;)
 
Yeah good one, the old sad for following me thing when you seem to be clued up on the rep of GlastonSpur. Even though you know fully well it is because you have spouted some nonsense in my direction and that is why i noticed. Just pipe down on the insulting and disregarding the validity of peoples viewpoint on a net forum as if you have some sort for greater knowledge because that is what is quite sad. ;)

I don't have greater knowledge, I'm only 17 years old. Nor do I try and act as if I am smarter than I am.

There was a thread about the most disliked people in this forum or something of the like in the general, and his name popped up more than once. Therefore I didn't actually make up this fake reputation in my head because I dislike him, because I don't. You however are doing just that.
 
You said that out of hope ...
No, I suggest you read the threads concerned. I said it on the basis of quoted evidence and reasoned argument, supported by info. from generally reliable Spurs ITKs.

And that is why I stuck to my guns even when (last January) Cockney_Hammer insisted time and time again that Berbatov was going to MUFC because of his 'rock-solid' info.

Hope had nothing to do with it.
 
There was a thread about the most disliked people in this forum or something of the like in the general, and his name popped up more than once. Therefore I didn't actually make up this fake reputation in my head because I dislike him, because I don't. You however are doing just that.

Im not aware of that and that probably comes with being a rival fan on a United forum, I just meant you were using that as part of a debate to disregard someones viewpoint.

I dont dislike you, I dont know you... I have just disagreed with a few things your username has said on an anonymous forum, thats all :)
 
Im not aware of that and that probably comes with being a rival fan on a United forum, i just meant you were using that as part of a debate to disregard someones viewpoint.

I dont dislike you, i dont know you... i have just disagreed with a few things your username has said on an anonymous forum, thats all :)

Fine. I apologise.:)
 
No, I suggest you read the threads concerned. I said it on the basis of quoted evidence and reasoned argument, supported by info. from generally reliable Spurs ITKs.

And that is why I stuck to my guns even when (last January) Cockney_Hammer insisted time and time again that Berbatov was going to MUFC because of his 'rock-solid' info.

Hope had nothing to do with it.
Did you miss my post that was directed to you earlier Glaston?
 
So getting back to whole football thing....I think if we did sign Berbatov Rooney would be the main beneficiary. I reckon with the right partner Rooney is nailed on to get 20-30 goals next season. I also think having him in our side would take alot of focus away from Ronaldo as he wouldnt be the main focus of our attack anymore. I personally cant see us signing anyone else other than Berbatov or Cruz. The likes of Villa/Etoo/Ibrahimović look set for moves elsewhere.
 
What do you think about buying the swedish goalkeeper Andreas Isaksson from Shitty, Glaston? Attracting interest from PSV Eindhoven and Galatasaray at the moment. At £2M he would be a bargain, and you are in great need of a keeper.
I can't say I've seen in him in action much, so don't really have an opinion on him.

But the fact that he's been displaced by Jo Hart might suggest that Spurs will be setting their sights higher: Boruc from Celtic or Gomes from PSV maybe ... not sure, we've been linked with so many GKs it's hard to know what's really going on.
 
So getting back to whole football thing....I think if we did sign Berbatov Rooney would be the main beneficiary. I reckon with the right partner Rooney is nailed on to get 20-30 goals next season. I also think having him in our side would take alot of focus away from Ronaldo as he wouldnt be the main focus of our attack anymore. I personally cant see us signing anyone else other than Berbatov or Cruz. The likes of Villa/Etoo/Ibrahimović look set for moves elsewhere.

Agreed. Buying Berbatov would release Rooney/Tevez and would give Ronaldo even more space to work in.

Not sure about Santa Cruz, Benni McCarthy had one good season with the exact same team and look at him now. He benefits from Bentley constantly whipping the ball in, we will not do that.

Berbatov is my first choice and looks to be SAF's first choice too.
 
Agreed. Buying Berbatov would release Rooney/Tevez and would give Ronaldo even more space to work in.

Not sure about Santa Cruz, Benni McCarthy had one good season with the exact same team and look at him now. He benefits from Bentley constantly whipping the ball in, we will not do that.

Berbatov is my first choice and looks to be SAF's first choice too.

I think you may be right on this one. Another thing about Berbatov is he'll still be banging them in at 32/33. Losing pace wont be a big factor for him, bit like Teddy!
 
Dimitar Berbatov will likely become the subject of fresh transfer speculation as the Tottenham forward has reportedly caught Barcelona's eye.

The Catalan club are rebuilding under new manager Pep Guardiola and reports suggest that the Bulgaria forward will soon become the subject of a £25 million bid. Berbatov's future in North London has been uncertain since last season when he was linked with a possible move to Old Trafford, where Sir Alex Ferguson is thought to be one of his admirers.

Want away: Dimitar Berbatov is thought to favour leaving Spurs

Spurs, reluctant to part with arguably their best player, are even less keen on selling the Bulgaria international to another Premier League club and have made it clear that a price in excess of £30m will be necessary.

Last season, Tottenham rejected a Manchester City bid of £30m for the player. Since Manchester United's interest became apparent, other clubs including Real Madrid and Inter Milan have also expressed an interest in Berbatov and reports suggest that a discounted fee of £25m would be sufficient to convince Spurs to sell to a club abroad.

Barcelona have emerged as the new favourites to land the 27-year-old on the back of the warm relationship the clubs developed when agreeing the move of Giovani Dos Santos from the Nou Camp to White Hart Lane earlier this summer.

Guardiola's former teammate and Bulgaria international Hristo Stoichkov has also vouched for fellow Bulgarian Berbatov, who has now become the linchpin in Barcelona's rebuilding plans.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/06/16/ufntot116.xml
 
I think we'll get him and he'll cost a lot. Some where between 25-30 mil. Depends if SAF definitely wants him and is the first choice target.

My gut says he'll choose us over Barca or Milan.

He will be quality for 3 or 4 seasons.
 
I think the door on Berbertov is shut, if he wanted to play for us desperately and is a prime target he would never have joined Spurs. He is a classy player no question, but I am not to sure he warrants a second look at a astronomical price, he's no Shearer.
Plus with Berbetov not playing at the Euro's you would have been expecting him too be heavily link with us over this period but there has hardly been a whimper, not like it has been over the last year or so.
Too me Tevez is the key, although nothing is set in stone that we are going to sign him but presuming we are for 20 million this summer or the next I doubt we will be spending money on another multi million pound striker.
 
I thought the reason he didnt sign for us is that we came in very late and said we wanted to sign him the following season, not immediately.
 
Zlatan is inconsistent and not a natural goal scorer.
Zlatan is a better and more natural goal scorer than both Rooney or Tevez. That is what counts.

Sheva's and Zidane's transfer fees did not reflected their market value.
Actually it did. Both were bought at the peak of their powers and their value factored in how important they were to their clubs and the length of contract they had left

There again we are talking about two clubs where money is thrown away like thrash. We are not that kind of club.
Juan Veron anyone:D
 
.......BTW Berbatov had not turned us down for Real or Barca but he had turned us down for a third rated team who wouldnt win the league even if their life depended on it.
:lol: Rather he turned us down because he wanted to settle his future away from Bayer Leverkursen quickly and we were dragging our heels selling Van Nistelrooy, who we wanted to replace him with. By the time we had finally sold Ruud, Berbatov had committed hid future else where, It's that simple.
 
Zlatan is a better and more natural goal scorer than both Rooney or Tevez. That is what counts.

Actually it did. Both were bought at the peak of their powers and their value factored in how important they were to their clubs and the length of contract they had left

Juan Veron anyone:D

yeah we should repeat what we did with Veron....:rolleyes:.

BTW Ibra is carrying a serious knee injury which is worrying Inter a lot. The Italian club had tried their best to cure it but it keeps coming back. If we have to spend good money then it would be better spent on a player who is injury free.

If we have to spend 20m then Id rather see us sign Adebayor then any one else. I mean he is a natural scorer, he is tall, he is young and he is already EPL tested.
 
yeah we should repeat what we did with Veron....:rolleyes:.
No. But we should stop pretending our club doesn't throw away money too. For me cheap signings like Kleberson, Taibi and Djemba Djemba were infact more costly than Veron. What matter is the quality of the signing. As in how right a fit he is for the team's present and future performance. Not how much you spend on him. TBH

BTW Ibra is carrying a serious knee injury which is worrying Inter a lot. The Italian club had tried their best to cure it but it keeps coming back. If we have to spend good money then it would be better spent on a player who is injury free.
Unfortunately. Zlatan is just wonderful. He'd be immense a OT. If we could get a paw on him.

If we have to spend 20m then Id rather see us sign Adebayor then any one else. I mean he is a natural scorer, he is tall, he is young and he is already EPL tested.
I know what you are getting a. But Arsenal would never sell him to us. For me though, if it wasn't for his attitude, I'd take Et'oo.
 
No-one feels he will be a messiah. But do we really need a messiah? We are already the best team in Europe and Berbatov wants to come here, which I think makes a big difference. The likes of Villa, Benzema etc. would just want to come here for a good 3 or 4 years and then move on to their dream clubs. So really age wouldn't make that much of a difference. We will overpay for anyone we get, we always do. The player that we buy will pay it off with trophies though.

We've signed plenty of players that have turned out to be good value for money.
 
No. But we should stop pretending our club doesn't throw away money too. For me cheap signings like Kleberson, Taibi and Djemba Djemba were infact more costly than Veron. What matter is the quality of the signing. As in how right a fit he is for the team's present and future performance. Not how much you spend on him. TBH

Kleberson costed us 6m, 1m less then Evra and Vidic. Taibi costed us 4.4m which was a big sum expecially for a goalkeeper from a small club who had never represented his nation. Djemba was cheap but there again we paid twice the amount of money we paid for Ole. Its not the money thrown that matters but how you use that money. Therefore spending 30m on a 29 yr old striker with no EPL experience and when you clearly dont needed becomes madness while bringing in an 23 yr old world class defender, when your defense clearly needs it for the same sum becomes a masterstroke. Now there are clubs where money is not an issue and where they wouldnt mind spending 30m for an old player even though they would have probably got away with it with a cheaper option. We are not that type of club.


Unfortunately. Zlatan is just wonderful. He'd be immense a OT. If we could get a paw on him.
Zlatan is a great talent but not what we need. First off all his attitude sucks, secondly he is underrated and thirdly he is not a national goalscorer. He is the kind of person who wouldn't mind shouting at the manager's face if he feels that he shouldn't be substituted. Can you imagine SAF's reaction after that?

I know what you are getting a. But Arsenal would never sell him to us. For me though, if it wasn't for his attitude, I'd take Et'oo.
Arsenal is a selling club and Wenger is a shrewd man. If he can get a better option from us then he would sell us the player. He didnt mind selling Ashley Cole to arch rivals Chelsea didnt he?
 
Kleberson costed us 6m, 1m less then Evra and Vidic. Taibi costed us 4.4m which was a big sum expecially for a goalkeeper from a small club who had never represented his nation. Djemba was cheap but there again we paid twice the amount of money we paid for Ole. Its not the money thrown that matters but how you use that money. Therefore spending 30m on a 29 yr old striker with no EPL experience and when you clearly dont needed becomes madness while bringing in an 23 yr old world class defender, when your defense clearly needs it for the same sum becomes a masterstroke. Now there are clubs where money is not an issue and where they wouldnt mind spending 30m for an old player even though they would have probably got away with it with a cheaper option. We are not that type of club.


Zlatan is a great talent but not what we need. First off all his attitude sucks, secondly he is underrated and thirdly he is not a national goalscorer. He is the kind of person who wouldn't mind shouting at the manager's face if he feels that he shouldn't be substituted. Can you imagine SAF's reaction after that?

Arsenal is a selling club and Wenger is a shrewd man. If he can get a better option from us then he would sell us the player. He didnt mind selling Ashley Cole to arch rivals Chelsea didnt he?

:lol:

If you think Wenger would sell Adebayor to Utd, then you're living in a dream world.
 
So what? You are blaming other players on running away once Real would want them when you have no proof that they will do that. Meanwhile you are putting forward Berbatov a player whom unlike Villa he had already preferred others to us. BTW Berbatov had not turned us down for Real or Barca but he had turned us down for a third rated team who wouldnt win the league even if their life depended on it.
Berbatov joined Spurs because they impressed him with their team and with how much they wanted him, while we were dragging our feet. By the time we actually made a proper offer, the Spurs deal was pretty much finalised except for his actual signature. The fact he kept his word with Spurs actually shows his loyalty. I have no doubt he'd happily stay with them if they were competing at the top level, but he feels he's now at the age where he can't wait too much longer to take that next step.

Indeed, it's something that now advantages us. Berbatov joined Spurs because they made him feel wanted and fostered that loyalty (he's one of those players, like Cantona and Ronaldo, who needs a bit of the arm around the shoulder treatment). Now we are the ones in that position, the team who has shown regular interest and have been looking to sign him for seasons. So if it comes down to between ourselves and another team (personally, I believe the other teams being linked is simply Spurs trying to drive up the price) he will probably prefer us.
 
Berbatov joined Spurs because they impressed him with their team and with how much they wanted him, while we were dragging our feet. By the time we actually made a proper offer, the Spurs deal was pretty much finalised except for his actual signature. The fact he kept his word with Spurs actually shows his loyalty. I have no doubt he'd happily stay with them if they were competing at the top level, but he feels he's now at the age where he can't wait too much longer to take that next step.

Indeed, it's something that now advantages us. Berbatov joined Spurs because they made him feel wanted and fostered that loyalty (he's one of those players, like Cantona and Ronaldo, who needs a bit of the arm around the shoulder treatment). Now we are the ones in that position, the team who has shown regular interest and have been looking to sign him for seasons. So if it comes down to between ourselves and another team (personally, I believe the other teams being linked is simply Spurs trying to drive up the price) he will probably prefer us.

Spot on.
 
That's your opinion - it's not necessarily true. The Daily Mirror are reporting that Barca have just bid 25m for Berbatov. Spurs have been in extensive talks this summer with Barca leading to the dos Santos signing: I said at the time that I wouldn't be surprised if there was more to that deal - whose bargain price surprised many - than meets the eye.


It's true I'm not ITK, but then again neither are you.

There have been various public pronouncements from Ramos and others indicating that only an offer of more than 30m would suffice for Berba to leave for another Prem club, but less if he goes abroad. And various Spurs ITKs have since confirmed this stance.

I can't help it if you don't like it, but that's the reality.

It doesn't matter whatever Spurs/Barca are planning. Unless Berbatov wants to go to Barca then it ain't gonna happen.
 
It doesn't matter whatever Spurs/Barca are planning. Unless Berbatov wants to go to Barca then it ain't gonna happen.
If Barca made an offer acceptable to Spurs, then I'm sure Berbatov would be entirely happy to go to Barca. What makes you think he wouldn't be?
 
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