Boris Johnson released from hospital

My worry is if he dies, what utter shite will the tories replace him with? They've gone from Cameron, to May, to Boris.

At this rate we'll have Nigel4PM.

Get well soon Boris - even if it's just so that we don't have to see the country sink further.
 
I should clarify first that I don’t wish death on him by any stretch and hope he pulls through and proves to be a good father and prime minister.

With that said though, I have a problem separating the lack of empathy and lack of support Boris and his associates have shown for the vulnerable, the poor and minorities during their political careers from the empathy and support we are expected to show him when he finds himself particularly vulnerable.

There has been hundreds of thousands of people over the last decade who have not had the support or treatment they required when they have found themselves critically ill thanks to austerity and the drip drip privatisation of the NHS.

It seems perfectly OK to show absolute contempt for people as long as you don’t focus on an individual. How many individuals though have they nodded at and shaken hands with in hospital for their PR exercises over the last decade before voting against their interests and confirming their mortality?
 
My worry is if he dies, what utter shite will the tories replace him with? They've gone from Cameron, to May, to Boris.

At this rate we'll have Nigel4PM.

Get well soon Boris - even if it's just so that we don't have to see the country sink further.

Boris is better than May though. May was the David Moyes of prime ministers.
 
Just seen Thatcher died on April 8th in 2013, could be a grim omen.
 
Have you never heard of life-changing experiences. Why don't you give the man a chance and see what happens before stating your fachts
Hope he pulls through but the two are unrelated. Him having a life changing experience doesn't detract from him being a shitty father.
 
I hope he gets well soon I wouldn't wish death on anyone.

But you have to remember he ignored expert medical advice and I'm not really surprised he caught it after the way he casually spoke about the disease at the start. Not a great example to set.
 
Sincerely hope he recovers. As much as I am not a fan of the man, we need him right now to be that focal point and to make the necessary decisions to fight this thing. On a personal level it's actually quite distressing to see him being obviously so ill - it will hopefully open some people's eyes to just how serious this virus is and that it can have severe implications for many of us. If we are unable to save the PM then what chance do the rest of us have?
 
According to BBC had a stable night so that's good news.
 
Wouldn't wish it on anyone, but with the 10s of thousands of people around the world dieing and suffering in intensive care, I feel almost relieved (dunno if thats the right word) that a world leader is one of them, especially one of the early naysayers.

His influence around the world after having gone through it first hand could save many, many lives. Hope to god he survives.
 
Posted at 12:56

UK PM Boris Johnson in 'stable condition' - Downing Street
Our reporters have just been briefed on the latest news regarding the condition of UK prime minister Boris Johnson - who spent the night in intensive care after his coronavirus symptoms worsened.
Downing Street says the prime minister was stable overnight and remains in good spirits.
He is receiving "standard" oxygen treatment and is breathing without any other assistance, a spokesperson says.
He has not required mechanical ventilation or non-invasive respiratory support.
The prime minister has not had a pneumonia diagnosis, the spokesperson adds.
 
When he was taken to hospital the other night my dad said he probably won't make it as people in their 70s struggle with this virus. He was genuinely stunned when I told him that the bloke is in his mid 50s, just a couple of years older than he is. That got me thinking, why is it that so many of the world leaders are unhealthy as feck? I know they've got hectic schedules but why don't they invest in a treadmill and spend 20-30 minutes on it in the morning before jumping in the shower? There really is no reason for them to look the way they do considering they have the money to invest in training equipment and are literally surrounded by politicians banging on about health benefits of physical activity.
 
Posted at 12:56

UK PM Boris Johnson in 'stable condition' - Downing Street
Our reporters have just been briefed on the latest news regarding the condition of UK prime minister Boris Johnson - who spent the night in intensive care after his coronavirus symptoms worsened.
Downing Street says the prime minister was stable overnight and remains in good spirits.
He is receiving "standard" oxygen treatment and is breathing without any other assistance, a spokesperson says.
He has not required mechanical ventilation or non-invasive respiratory support.
The prime minister has not had a pneumonia diagnosis, the spokesperson adds.
Good news.
 
When he was taken to hospital the other night my dad said he probably won't make it as people in their 70s struggle with this virus. He was genuinely stunned when I told him that the bloke is in his mid 50s, just a couple of years older than he is. That got me thinking, why is it that so many of the world leaders are unhealthy as feck? I know they've got hectic schedules but why don't they invest in a treadmill and spend 20-30 minutes on it in the morning before jumping in the shower? There really is no reason for them to look the way they do considering they have the money to invest in training equipment and are literally surrounded by politicians banging on about health benefits of physical activity.


Its more so down to diet/drink than lack of exercise. You can remain relatively healthy with a clean diet and little to no exercise at all.
 
When he was taken to hospital the other night my dad said he probably won't make it as people in their 70s struggle with this virus. He was genuinely stunned when I told him that the bloke is in his mid 50s, just a couple of years older than he is. That got me thinking, why is it that so many of the world leaders are unhealthy as feck? I know they've got hectic schedules but why don't they invest in a treadmill and spend 20-30 minutes on it in the morning before jumping in the shower? There really is no reason for them to look the way they do considering they have the money to invest in training equipment and are literally surrounded by politicians banging on about health benefits of physical activity.

He thought Boris was in his 70s? He doesn't look that bad!
 
When he was taken to hospital the other night my dad said he probably won't make it as people in their 70s struggle with this virus. He was genuinely stunned when I told him that the bloke is in his mid 50s, just a couple of years older than he is. That got me thinking, why is it that so many of the world leaders are unhealthy as feck? I know they've got hectic schedules but why don't they invest in a treadmill and spend 20-30 minutes on it in the morning before jumping in the shower? There really is no reason for them to look the way they do considering they have the money to invest in training equipment and are literally surrounded by politicians banging on about health benefits of physical activity.

Why does anyone live an unhealthy lifestyle? They like sitting on their arse, eating and drinking too much I guess.
 
Funny how this is now the line trotted out by the majority of the members including mods, yet no one seemed to care to discuss Kobe Bryant's shortcomings in his very own RIP thread hours after he died.
It's because there appears to be a significant portion of the caf who are cnuts that like to feed on negativity. As dickish as Boris can come across at times, he isn't a monster. I hope he makes a swift recovery, irrespective of my view on his politics.
 
Why does anyone live an unhealthy lifestyle? They like sitting on their arse, eating and drinking too much I guess.
Or they try to enjoy the limited amount of time sociality affords them, as opposed to trying to prolong it.
 
Its more so down to diet/drink than lack of exercise. You can remain relatively healthy with a clean diet and little to no exercise at all.
This.
 
Wouldn't wish it on anyone, but with the 10s of thousands of people around the world dieing and suffering in intensive care, I feel almost relieved (dunno if thats the right word) that a world leader is one of them, especially one of the early naysayers.

His influence around the world after having gone through it first hand could save many, many lives. Hope to god he survives.

Aside from just basic humanity, that's the most important reason why I desperately want him to survive and quickly get back to work. His massively enhanced empathy about this illness and the required response will inspire him to make better informed decisions, which will benefit every country in the world.

I'm of the opinion that he has handled this OK so far in UK. All criticising 'herd immunity' are missing the point: at the beginning of any process, there are a myriad of proposed strategies. Nothing wrong in properly exploring each before you come to a definitive outcome. I've also know the medical community was deeply divided on which strategy to take, hence why the international team at Imperial College London was formed: to provide a neutral and internationally acceptable recommendation. As soon as they issued that report, Government acted with amazing speed and conviction. Ditto: financial package was also rolled out at high speed. Self employed was a tricky accounting issue so required 2 days extra thought, but was also promptly solved. Current state of NHS is the outcome of the Cameron government.

Only decisions I think he could have improved was to insist on quarantine for returning citizens from overseas, and install army at time of shut down, but that was culturally unacceptable. Even now, I wish police were empowered to be much tougher on people flouting Government orders on physical movement.

Am very hopeful that should Boris survive, he will lead UK better out of this crisis, and he will personally become NHS's staunchest supporter within Government.
 
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Sincerely hope he recovers. As much as I am not a fan of the man, we need him right now to be that focal point and to make the necessary decisions to fight this thing. On a personal level it's actually quite distressing to see him being obviously so ill - it will hopefully open some people's eyes to just how serious this virus is and that it can have severe implications for many of us. If we are unable to save the PM then what chance do the rest of us have?
If he continues in the same path and ignores expert advice he's the last person that needs to be in charge.
 
Am very hopeful that should Boris survive, he will lead UK better out of this crisis, and he will personally become NHS's staunchest supporter within Government.
What evidence is there to suggest this will happen?
 
I'm the same height as Boris, yet five-and-a-half stone lighter than him, and even that weight is considered borderline overweight (according to the NHS guide I saw).
 
I never use the ignore function but I think it’s time.

That particular member is the only one I've ever used mine for. Not clicking on the quoted post but I assume it's vile.

Good news about Johnson being in stable condition as incidentally stability is what we all need.
 
He's going to remain fat and will be even unhealthier going forward. He needs to resign from the post.

Let's give him a chance to get through this life threatening thing first eh?
Calm your bile for a bit.
 
When he was taken to hospital the other night my dad said he probably won't make it as people in their 70s struggle with this virus. He was genuinely stunned when I told him that the bloke is in his mid 50s, just a couple of years older than he is. That got me thinking, why is it that so many of the world leaders are unhealthy as feck? I know they've got hectic schedules but why don't they invest in a treadmill and spend 20-30 minutes on it in the morning before jumping in the shower? There really is no reason for them to look the way they do considering they have the money to invest in training equipment and are literally surrounded by politicians banging on about health benefits of physical activity.
Boris does do some cardio: Often seen running and on his bike as London Mayor.

As a VIP, people will honour your status with highly calorific food and drinks everywhere you go. He sits in endless meeting, always surrounded by tea, biscuits and cake!

Its one reason I admire the Queen, she must have had a very strict protocol on what and how much she eats given her good health at 94!
 
Human nature. Happens all the time.

Regardless, he is our PM, won by democratic election. It's what the country wanted.
Seem to be wishful thinking.
 
Seem to be wishful thinking.

As I also said, it doesn't matter, he is our PM and its his right to govern.

If you don't like him, you're welcome to stand, or to galvanise the majority to get him kicked out.
 
Great news to hear he's on the mend, this clip would've gone down in history if it had taken a turn for the worst.

 
Christ, no. We're in enough trouble as it is without me being involved.
 
Or they try to enjoy the limited amount of time sociality affords them, as opposed to trying to prolong it.

I’m not having a go at Boris. I don’t think he has more responsibility to be healthier than anyone else. Churchill was a morbidly obese alcoholic but did alright.

I'm the same height as Boris, yet five-and-a-half stone lighter than him, and even that weight is considered borderline overweight (according to the NHS guide I saw).

I think Boris is sturdily built naturally but I do think that people underestimate what overweight is these days. My dad was on the borderline of being morbidly obese a few years back but thought he was OK because there are much fatter people knocking about.
 
And to be fair, nobody has actually siad they hope he doesn't recover. Obviously we all want him to recover, but that doesn't mean it's not worth discussing his shortcomings in all this.

I think this is important. Either you limit this thread to just people posting updates, or you leave it open and expect discussions on how hes partly to blame for the situation this country is in.


Firs point is, I do hope he recovers.

Saying that, despite advanced warnings, there was a period where this was mockingly dismissed by him and his people (who apparently knew better than everybody else across Europe). And that was an important period that allowed this to get fully out of control. Even with numbers growing, and calls for a lockdown, it wasnt implemented until it was too late.
The only thing is hes afforded more prioritised coverage than those of the public due to his standing, and his action (or lack of actions) may end up harming him less than nearly everybody else.
It really is unforgivable the way this has been dealt with (and its very right that and other important points are discussed) and needs to be discussed, but not just on a forum online, but seriously in front of a panel, for public viewing.
 
I should clarify first that I don’t wish death on him by any stretch and hope he pulls through and proves to be a good father and prime minister.

With that said though, I have a problem separating the lack of empathy and lack of support Boris and his associates have shown for the vulnerable, the poor and minorities during their political careers from the empathy and support we are expected to show him when he finds himself particularly vulnerable.

There has been hundreds of thousands of people over the last decade who have not had the support or treatment they required when they have found themselves critically ill thanks to austerity and the drip drip privatisation of the NHS.

It seems perfectly OK to show absolute contempt for people as long as you don’t focus on an individual. How many individuals though have they nodded at and shaken hands with in hospital for their PR exercises over the last decade before voting against their interests and confirming their mortality?
Well put.