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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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fecking hell. The European parliament really is going to be one long shitshow while those idiots are there.
He seems to be turning more hardline by the day. I'm kinda glad to be going away for a few days tomorrow and getting a bit of respite from all of this nonsense.
The strange thing about that argument coming from members of parliament, is that members of parliament are the typical instrument of representative democracy. She is basically saying that her decisions and words as a member of parliament are undemocratic. At some point people may want to understand the difference between direct and representative democracy.
exactly without the eu's stupid rules we will become a top exporter of bendy bananas we will call them Boris Bananas and make Britain great again by sending Gunboats and attacking countries till they agree to sell our
No, the much vaunted EU's Franco/German axis will become the Greater Germany model now. Macron has failed the test, even a wobbly, not very well Merkel is still running rings around him. The UK was the last obstacle to a United States of Europe and when they are gone it will be full steam ahead.
This actually makes sense for the Euro-zone countries for this to happen, (not sure about the others who are not in the Euro though) it will allow more balance to be brought to the EU states overall economy, but at what price for such as Greece and the other southern states?
Oh god,she's still alive.
they become the european rust belt - with some added beeches and tourism
Not sure about the rustbelt bit, but if the red-light district is closed in Amsterdam, there maybe an opening for some southern beaches to become the 'whorehouse' of Europe, a bit like Cuba was to Florida, pre Castro?
If I was from the mainland, I'd want the UK to feck off asap.
It's like the drunk at the pub was given a platform.
What can the EU do at this point they've offered a hand and we've slapped it away on multiple occasions, they might as well sit back while we drown.
It’s a minor point in the grand scheme of things but I can’t get over how bloody rude they all are. Whatever happened to good British manners?
If you're going to Batter Her then that's an image I don't want to see
She was better on Strictly
The only people who want the UK to leave as soon as possible with no deal more than Brexiters - the whole of the rest of Europe, when will they ever leave, please go away.
indeed I think this mantra that the EU dont want no deal and will re-negotiate is overstated
I think the new commission see it as a done deal and its take it or leave it - but please make your minds up
The Uk could become major producers of inflatable bendy bananas. Line them up near Dover, that'll fool the Germans.
I'm thinking of setting up a dingy shop on the Dover coast ready for when everybody gets desperate and wants to escape back to Europe... Bananas sounds like a lucrative sideline
We don't need dingys where we're going!
Certainly is and she is loathsome.
I've not had as much time to read the news recently, are there any new developments or is everyone really just waiting for the clown to be PM? Has anything relevant happened since March 31st other than May stepping down?
Given brexiteers won democracy and all that what are they doing with it? You all rich yet?
Given brexiteers won democracy and all that what are they doing with it? You all rich yet?
Unless I missed something nothing is done regarding Brexit, pretty much like the last extension. They will most likely think about it around October 20th.
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Yup, and they're going to get a real shock when the EU turn around and say 'Bye then, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out'.
Yeah they really need our support. It must be hard having more money than you know what to do with.
That's a bit generous, 30th Oct surely?
The politico's (UK and EU) would have you believe everything is calm on the surface, but that their legs are pedalling like mad underneath trying to avoid a no deal, truth is they can't find their way into the paper bag, never mind finding a way out.
The Tories leadership race is now about who can sound toughest on Brexit and give most money away! Labour is now telling everyone (but their leader) they are now for Remain, any pretence of wanting a vote on what type of leaving deal we should put to the people has now evaporated! The lib dem(os) are now into selling printed 'T' shirts to their friends in the EU or at least selfies of themselves showing off their new merchandise (Ed Woodward take note please, this is the way to sell shirts, not buying multi-million pound players, who cant or wont play, as clothes-horses).
In the EU the changing of the guard at the top is a secretive affair, the white smoke' eventually emerged, but the result seems to have pleased no one, except the individuals themselves, who have all got form in their previous jobs and are just glad to have a chauffer-driven car of their own!
Mrs Merkel's not feeling well(can anyone blame her?) and Macron is doing his best to make her feel worse, so much for the Franco/German axis!
Going down to the wire has a new significance when viewed in EU terms.
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You are caricature with your obsession with Germany and France.
But you agree with the rest of it though?
Thanks for the answers everyone. One would think after 3 years things eventually get better but the incoming PM doesn't make me hopeful.
One of the current featured wiki pages is about the 1927 Chicago election. One candidate apparently publicly debated live rats symbolizing his opponents (and won). Hunt should have brought a live chicken to that Sky debate.
One of the current featured wiki pages is about the 1927 Chicago election. One candidate apparently publicly debated live rats symbolizing his opponents (and won). Hunt should have brought a live chicken to that Sky debate.
But you agree with the rest of it though?
To be honest the rest is a bit bland. A premeditated no deal is a stupid idea and that's what the non leavers said from day one, so acting as if something that has been said outloud is some sort of secret is strange. The issue is that UK politicians have and still are living on a different planet, with their red lines and internal battles. There are no possible deals outside of the one offered.
In the end it's not worth discussing because we have done it to death and nothing changed from the UK standpoint.
The really crazy thing is that on day one almost no-one on the leave side was talking about no-deal in any serious sense. Certainly none of the leave politicians were. They were all talking about variations of deal, most were completely in favour of the single market etc etc. Things have changed hugely in 3 years.
That's just the daily mail cycle.
Daily mail prints stupid shit >> Tory members believe stupid shit >> Tory party repeats the stupid shit the members believe >> Daily mail prints more stupid shit >> repeat
I agree with much of what you say, nothing has changed and is unlikely to do so unless both sets of politicians start living in the real world. The 'no deal' threat didn't need to be said out aloud, except when Theresa May said at Lancaster House, she believed she could hoodwink her Brexiteers with it. It was the same with the phrase "nothings agreed until every things agreed" as that was obvious, but both sides carried on as though neither phrase had any meaning and would never happen. Well unless there is some miracle both will happen on the 31st October.
Incidentally my obsession is not with France, like the poor "they are always with us" our joint history and heritage goes back centuries. However I do (admit to) having doubts, very irrational I suppose, about a country that twice in the last century has tried to dominate Europe by force and failed and now seems to be doing it by economics/political measures, my fear of a future United States of Europe becoming, more or less, a Greater Germany is irrational, but its there; too much of my childhood was tied up with the aftermath last time. Its quite possible with the German talent for organisation etc it could be a success...but?
Some of them called the idea ridiculous if I'm not mistaken but it was still a thing in the sense that it's the default position. It was an easily forseeable future when they made it obvious that they had no intention to be realistic.
Yup, it was Daniel Hannon who said back then "Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the single market.". And now if you're a leaver and support the single market, they'll probably burn you as a heretic.