If they have that arrangement with the airlines for information to be forwarded, then fair enough but I am still curious why no other country I know (which have the same boarding pass issuance and scan process) dispenses with the formal passport control check.
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If they have that arrangement with the airlines for information to be forwarded, then fair enough but I am still curious why no other country I know (which have the same boarding pass issuance and scan process) dispenses with the formal passport control check.
The border control must have been recording it as it's all scanned digitally, I assume they just never did anything with it due to bureaucratic incompetence. They finally started checking the info from airlines in April of last year, prior to that the airlines were responsible for checking the passport details of the travelers mostly to ensure they were eligible to enter the country of destination so they would not be liable.
The UKPA started asking for the API (Advanced Passenger Information) for all departing passengers on April the 1st last year as the Channel Tunnel and ferries suddenly changed their rules requiring you to submit your details ahead of check in. They still only do it one way though which surprises me, we traveled out and back with different passengers this week but they didn't want to know who we were bringing back into the country officially and only questioned us at the border point as our niece is only 16 and had a different surname to the other passengers.
My passport is always checked when I go back to UK, why yours isn't is a mystery
Go back, yes. Leave, no.
Yes, I show it at the check In desk
and at the boarding gate
Not really what I had meant in my original post - BA or whoever are not the same as a formal passport control but if the UK government has effectively outsourced this role to the airlines, then maybe they do have day to day control over numbers.
What airports?
The US doesn't do it either.
Whenever I fly from the UK (Ldn, Mcr, Bham, Edn), I don't go through passport control when I leave. Whenever I leave to fly to the UK (from Schengen these days but previously from Russia), I always go through formal passport control. Obviously I do show my passport at some point in the process (whether online check in or at the airline desk) but it's curious there is no "official" check.
I once saw a documentary om dutch tv how a reporter got a potential bomb through schipol, via the uk, to new york. Security has flaws everywhere. Simgle out the uk if yoi want tho.
You are right about that. I also remember a police officer calmly say that anything can potentially enter the territory, as long as gangsters exist drug, weapons and people will find a way in.
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I agree it is absolutely inept journalism again from the Guardian. Johnson has never said that we would not pay, simply disputed the high amounts being aired. Now I can easily recognise the distinction but others may struggle with it.
But that's what the article said, so you didn't read it.
If the bill is €100bn will it be paid or not?
https://www.theguardian.com/global/...s-for-lengthy-transitional-period-post-brexit
I especially like this bit:
He has threatened not to pay the amount due. To be pedantic this didn't exclude paying something. However you spin it his latest approach is a huge change in attitude at the very least.
I don't understand this and can't see the answer if the Uk wants in the future to be able to sign trade deals with the rest of the world which having left the EU it does.
The EU position on the border between Northern and Southern Ireland doesn't make any sense.
It is committed to keeping the border as if it is within the customs union as a prerequisite for a deal and at the same time it doesn't want the UK to be able to sign trade deals even though it is leaving the EU.
What gives?
The EU are being put in an impossible situation and being asked to clean up our mess for us. Pretty standard for the last few years really.
Its not the EU alone that needs the NI/Ireland border to remain as it is.
The entire Good Friday Agreement is built upon the fact that border remains frictionless. Put any sort of border controls there will empower the paramilitary gangs again and return us to a very bad time for everyone.
Surely the EU is worried about the UK using an open Irish border as backdoor for UK goods entering Europe ?
This may help you
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...sengers-leaving-the-uk/exit-checks-fact-sheet
Sounds like they had paper checks... which were extremely visible but not very useful. They then moved to a more sophisticated method which was less visible.
From 2015 they've reintroduced physical checks
More like for US, Australian, New Zealandian etc goods.
But aren't we going to get an absolutely top class free trade deal after brexit ?
They could also be worried about British emigrants fleeing an impoverished state
Germanys always open and welcomingThey could also be worried about British emigrants fleeing an impoverished state
Leave the EU but join Schengen, one way of course. Easy-peasy.They could also be worried about British emigrants fleeing an impoverished state
So when May uses security as a bargaining chip they say: "We go into these negotiations with security and defence being a big thing in our corner." (Fallon)
When Barnier does it's 'risible nonsense'. One has to love them, them tories
When Barnier does it's 'risible nonsense'. One has to love them, them tories
Forget all that, who's the blonde?
According to the caption below the picture: Mollie King.
Reading these admonishments from the EU to the naughty UK schoolboy I can imagine what our school report would have on it - 1/10, effortlessly achieved.
But we had all the bullshit from the EU about how they would be open and transparent....
And then, six months after saying they want money from the UK before talks can start about anything else, have they actually yet said how much they want from the UK ??
Of course they haven't. So how does the UK negotiate about an as yet unknown amount ??
Meanwhile, all the shit gets heaped on to the UK negotiators for the delay.
I tell you guys, the EU couldn't give a shit about anything other than collecting yet more money from the UK, because without it......
I hope you're having a laugh. The EU have said they want £100m and it is for the UK to provide a counter proposal.
Source?