GloryHunter07
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We need quotesIt's going down like a sack of shit on the Mail Online comments section, which makes today a good day.
We need quotesIt's going down like a sack of shit on the Mail Online comments section, which makes today a good day.
Surely anyone from Ulster can obtain an Irish Passport whenever they want. The ardent unionists may not like it but they could just use it to avoid border problems.
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Can you imagine May negotiating the german surrender at the end of the war ,total appeasement . An absolute disgrace .
Neville Chamberlain had his peace in our time letter, Blair had his Good Friday Surrender Agreement, now May has her Brexit Surrender deal.
That's not a breakthrough...that's stitched up capitulation. Resign PM.
Farage is right we are being made into laughing stock as the EU are run roughshod over I weak willed politicians. This isn't what we voted for.
She has sold the UK down the river, and now she must go, a prime minster who put the needs of the EU before her own country, shameful.......
Those cnuts are literally cutting off their nose to spite their face.
"time to take this to the streets" was a personal favourite - no doubt after they have been to the post office to pick up their Winter fuel allowance!Your wish is my command.![]()
At little bit, but unlike their usual mental panic and nonsense, the economic border on the sea is a very real fear of the UK distancing themselves from NI to the point were a United Ireland is in actuality if not name.
I think it would have been more profitable short-term, but I can understand their actions on this one, even if the reasoning presented was utter crap.
I have English friends, with some Irish ancestry, who live and work abroad with wife and family and they've done the same. Brits and Irish can have dual nationality, I think. In my family tree there's an O'Gorman but it goes back over a hundred years and isn't a grandparent. What are my chances ?I'm a unionist here but I'm pretty certain I'll be getting an Irish passport when my current GB one expires shortly. Purely for flexibility (considered getting both but not sure I'll end bother with a GB passport). I'm definitely not the only one - think they were fresh out of application forms when the referendum result first came in. Usually a cheaper passport anyway - plenty of people get it instead when renewal comes up. Might not wave it around in a Rangers bar but I'm not convinced I'm welcome in there anyway.
Additionally, I was on a course in Birmingham this week and some of English and Scottish attendees said their family was looking into their Irish heritage to see if they could wrangle one.
That said, hopefully all of this won't be a big deal in the end.
Not sure about that one.I have English friends, with some Irish ancestry, who live and work abroad with wife and family and they've done the same. Brits and Irish can have dual nationality, I think. In my family tree there's an O'Gorman but it goes back over a hundred years and isn't a grandparent. What are my chances ?
I'm a unionist here but I'm pretty certain I'll be getting an Irish passport when my current GB one expires shortly. Purely for flexibility (considered getting both but not sure I'll end bother with a GB passport). I'm definitely not the only one - think they were fresh out of application forms when the referendum result first came in. Usually a cheaper passport anyway - plenty of people get it instead when renewal comes up. Might not wave it around in a Rangers bar but I'm not convinced I'm welcome in there anyway.
Additionally, I was on a course in Birmingham this week and some of English and Scottish attendees said their family was looking into their Irish heritage to see if they could wrangle one.
That said, hopefully all of this won't be a big deal in the end.
I have English friends, with some Irish ancestry, who live and work abroad with wife and family and they've done the same. Brits and Irish can have dual nationality, I think. In my family tree there's an O'Gorman but it goes back over a hundred years and isn't a grandparent. What are my chances ?
You do realise that May is a remainer?What exactly has been agreed? Am still confused. All I see is tweets and posts re: might as well stay now. Sounds like she sold out? Soft-Brexit?
Sounds good. Still always a chance something might breakdown I guess.
EDIT: Just read into this - is this not just confirming that if people exercise their 'Irishness' by getting an Irish passport they maintain EU citizenship? If that's so - nothing has really changed.
True. My mistake.
Well PM above that.You do realise that May is a remainer?
I feel like its a slightly different situation for Ireland and Scotland because majorities there voted to remain. Wales has less reason to complain IMO as the majority voted to leave, so there is no sense of it being dragged out of the EU by England.No worries.
Another thing is that surely English, Scottish and Welsh folks (remainers particularly) will be pissed off about our lot getting that option (even if it's not a new development) when they don't.
Anyone else think the silence of JRMogg etc is rather eerie?
1922 committee plotting perhaps?
I feel like its a slightly different situation for Ireland and Scotland because majorities there voted to remain. Wales has less reason to complain IMO as the majority voted to leave, so there is no sense of it being dragged out of the EU by England.
EU Official said:We cannot upset relations with other third countries. If we were to give the UK a very lopsided deal then the other partners with whom we have been engaging and entered into balanced agreements would of course come back and question those agreements.
Some of these agreements have specific most favoured nation clauses: if you give better to others you will have to come back and give us the same. So also for this reason we need to maintain this balance of rights and obligations.
Send them a bill for 1945, what price freedom ?We need quotes![]()
There is definitely plotting going on behind the scenes.
True, and that is definitely an issue, but again I think its a bit different. There is (as far as I know) no movement to get London out of England. London being part of England is not remotely controversial. So it is just a case of one region being outvoted by others within the same country.London voted heavily to remain as well and with a high profile Mayor, I can see Khan piping up quite a bit.
There is definitely plotting going on behind the scenes.
True, and that is definitely an issue, but again I think its a bit different. There is (as far as I know) no movement to get London out of England. London being part of England is not remotely controversial. So it is just a case of one region being outvoted by others within the same country.
But yes, I do expect Khan to make an issue of it, which is his prerogative.
Bloody Muslims, always trying to thwart the will of the people.He already did, he was tweeting about London staying in the custom union.
True, and that is definitely an issue, but again I think its a bit different. There is (as far as I know) no movement to get London out of England. London being part of England is not remotely controversial. So it is just a case of one region being outvoted by others within the same country.
But yes, I do expect Khan to make an issue of it, which is his prerogative.
I would love to be privy to some of the exchanges taking place between these arseholes right now.
Or maybe he just doesn't have the bottle. It's easy to stand in the sidelines and talk away, another thing to actually do the job. I don't think any politician really has the bottle for a Hard Brexit.
I suspect the main reason why high profile Brexit tories are quiet is because a leadership crisis will probably lead to another election, an election they at best will see a minority government.
fair pointOr maybe he just doesn't have the bottle. It's easy to stand in the sidelines and talk away, another thing to actually do the job. I don't think any politician really has the bottle for a Hard Brexit.
I suspect the main reason why high profile Brexit tories are quiet is because a leadership crisis will probably lead to another election, an election they at best will see a minority government.
A bit harsh. We've only just discovered NI and RoI, so could have never considered such issues.In summary, the UK government have wasted all this time for nothing and have little time left to negotiate any kind of deal.
I think she is due to answer questions on Monday, will be interesting to see if they go for her then.There is definitely plotting going on behind the scenes.
I understand that is a possibilty. "Nothing's agreed till everything's agreed" as has been said. However, that will be around 15 months down the line, by which time the situation maybe totally different, for good or bad.Another thought, if final deal can’t be agreed, does this mean these ‘agreements’ would be thrown out of the window?
I'd love to see it as i firmly believe a Tory party led by Mogg or Johnson in particular would be absolutely hammered. With a Corbyn govt we could then start a whole new thread on Lexit...
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A bit harsh. We've only just discovered NI and RoI, so could have never considered such issues.
Got it.I understand that is a possibilty. "Nothing's agreed till everything's agreed" as has been said. However, that will be around 15 months down the line, by which time the situation maybe totally different, for good or bad.