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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
I'm a unionist here but I'm pretty certain I'll be getting an Irish passport when my current GB one expires shortly. Purely for flexibility (considered getting both but not sure I'll end bother with a GB passport). I'm definitely not the only one - think they were fresh out of application forms when the referendum result first came in. Usually a cheaper passport anyway - plenty of people get it instead when renewal comes up. Might not wave it around in a Rangers bar but I'm not convinced I'm welcome in there anyway.
Additionally, I was on a course in Birmingham this week and some of English and Scottish attendees said their family was looking into their Irish heritage to see if they could wrangle one.
That said, hopefully all of this won't be a big deal in the end.
At little bit, but unlike their usual mental panic and nonsense, the economic border on the sea is a very real fear of the UK distancing themselves from NI to the point were a United Ireland is in actuality if not name.
I think it would have been more profitable short-term, but I can understand their actions on this one, even if the reasoning presented was utter crap.
"time to take this to the streets" was a personal favourite - no doubt after they have been to the post office to pick up their Winter fuel allowance!Your wish is my command.
In summary, the UK government have wasted all this time for nothing and have little time left to negotiate any kind of deal.
That's it really. You can dislike the DUP (and I personally do) while being understanding why they would never agree to an Irish sea border. As you say, it's a big push towards a United Ireland from then on.
I have English friends, with some Irish ancestry, who live and work abroad with wife and family and they've done the same. Brits and Irish can have dual nationality, I think. In my family tree there's an O'Gorman but it goes back over a hundred years and isn't a grandparent. What are my chances ?
Not sure about that one.
No need.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...eep-eu-citizenship-irish-border-a8099176.html
No chance. You need at least a grandparent born in Ireland.
Sounds good. Still always a chance something might breakdown I guess.
EDIT: Just read into this - is this not just confirming that if people exercise their 'Irishness' by getting an Irish passport they maintain EU citizenship? If that's so - nothing has really changed.
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You do realise that May is a remainer?
True. My mistake.
No worries.
Another thing is that surely English, Scottish and Welsh folks (remainers particularly) will be pissed off about our lot getting that option (even if it's not a new development) when they don't.
Well PM above that.
But I see your point. Neither soft or hard Brexit is the ‘right’ Brexit, no matter what either side thinks. It’s the perogative of the PM of the day.
Anyone else think the silence of JRMogg etc is rather eerie?
1922 committee plotting perhaps?
1922 committee plotting perhaps?
I feel like its a slightly different situation for Ireland and Scotland because majorities there voted to remain. Wales has less reason to complain IMO as the majority voted to leave, so there is no sense of it being dragged out of the EU by England.
Or maybe he just doesn't have the bottle. It's easy to stand in the sidelines and talk away, another thing to actually do the job. I don't think any politician really has the bottle for a Hard Brexit.
I suspect the main reason why high profile Brexit tories are quiet is because a leadership crisis will probably lead to another election, an election they at best will see a minority government.
There is definitely plotting going on behind the scenes.
London voted heavily to remain as well and with a high profile Mayor, I can see Khan piping up quite a bit.
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Send them a bill for 1945, what price freedom ?We need quotes
We shall fight them on the beaches ( Benidorm ) on the landing grounds ( Alicante airport ) and in the streets ( the old quarter of Torremolinos )
Aye, without doubt, just a matter of how far it goes.
Out with her eyes, let her smell her way to Brussles. We'll always have Shakespeare.
True, and that is definitely an issue, but again I think its a bit different. There is (as far as I know) no movement to get London out of England. London being part of England is not remotely controversial. So it is just a case of one region being outvoted by others within the same country.
But yes, I do expect Khan to make an issue of it, which is his prerogative.
Probably but I think May has been on a knife edge since the day after the last election.
I would love to be privy to some of the exchanges taking place between these arseholes right now.
He already did, he was tweeting about London staying in the custom union.
Popcorn to the ready!
Tuning into LBC for a quick listen, hopefully can gauge a view of folks.
Tuning into LBC for a quick listen, hopefully can gauge a view of folks.
Bloody Muslims, always trying to thwart the will of the people.
Oh yeah London is a completely different ball game to Scotland and Northern Ireland. Just suspect Khan will carry on speaking about and who knows if there is a domino effect.
One thing I suspect May has going for her is that the cnuts all hate each other. Can't imagine Johnson is very pally with Gove or Patel.
The '22 are avidly pro Brexit and this "deal" will not be to their liking plus this Tory party are spectacularly incompetent. So don't discount a move against May.
I'd love to see it as i firmly believe a Tory party led by Mogg or Johnson in particular would be absolutely hammered. With a Corbyn govt we could then start a whole new thread on Lexit...
https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...-lets-do-something-different-when-we-leave-it
Wahey
fair point
A bit harsh. We've only just discovered NI and RoI, so could have never considered such issues.
I think she is due to answer questions on Monday, will be interesting to see if they go for her then.
Another thought, if final deal can’t be agreed, does this mean these ‘agreements’ would be thrown out of the window?
I understand that is a possibilty. "Nothing's agreed till everything's agreed" as has been said. However, that will be around 15 months down the line, by which time the situation maybe totally different, for good or bad.
I'd love to see it as i firmly believe a Tory party led by Mogg or Johnson in particular would be absolutely hammered. With a Corbyn govt we could then start a whole new thread on Lexit...
Wahey
Johnson yes. With Mogg though I am not so sure. Certainly because of his background he would lose a number of votes. Then again he would capture many. In particular I would respectfully suggest that his view on scrapping the commitment to 0.7% of GDP to overseas aid would win him quite a number from all political colours. Charity begins at home is awfully persuasive.
You're right.
Anyway the talks should start in February, if the UK government are more clear, and end in October - plenty of time to do a deal
Got it.
Maybe behind the scenes she’s telling the hard Brexiteers, at least the EU will come to table this way and we know what we might get re deal. If we don’t like then whole different story.
Probably did her ‘NOTHING has changed....nothing has changed!!!’ in a screech.