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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Fair enough. No one is really trying to change peoples minds here are we? Its shouting into the void. It would be wasted time. There are plenty of people out there though who would and probably have changed their minds based on how things have gone since the ref. Pointing and calling them idiots helps no one. Some will be idiots naturally, who just want to win, no matter the cost, but some have believed the lies and its those who remainers should be targeting.

How are they to be found? I very much doubt they are going to willingly come forward and say "yep, they got me". How would you even begin identifying them?
 
We need someone to start a poll thread about what they think is the most likely outcome.
Mays clusterfeck deal, a revised deal, no deal, no brexit. I would do it but I don't know how to do polls.

I reckon May's deal will go through. Its been made abundantly clear that no one wants to take charge and be responsible for brexit. So it will stumble over the line by virtue of no one making a credible attempt to stop it.
 
I reckon May's deal will go through. Its been made abundantly clear that no one wants to take charge and be responsible for brexit. So it will stumble over the line by virtue of no one making a credible attempt to stop it.

No I don't think there's any possible chance of it getting through the house of commons. No way. It'll be voted out, and May will be in the same position as Cameron after the referendum. Will she go? Probably.
Then it'll be down to someone else to go back to the EU to either try and get more concessions, or go to the people with another vote.
 
I reckon May's deal will go through. Its been made abundantly clear that no one wants to take charge and be responsible for brexit. So it will stumble over the line by virtue of no one making a credible attempt to stop it.

That’s my view too. The ‘brexiteers’ in high level politics don’t have the bottle to take the reigns and enact a no deal. I’ve been convinced of that for a long time.
 
If May survives this I look forward to her Father Ted speech in Parliament.

"and now...we move on to Liars!"
 
The more I see of Theresa May the more I wonder how she got there. She obviously wouldn't have been voted in as she's about as confident and convincing as a goldfish, but she must've worked her way up to near that point somehow. I thought a huge part of being a politician was about debating and public speaking. She's awful at it, even without an audience in person. I wouldn't trust her to run me a bath, nevermind run the country.
"err er y..yes it's d..ready" "it's freezing cold Theresa"

I was watching a Question of Sport last night and it struck me that Theresa May looks like if Sue Barker died and was taken to a dodgy taxidermist.
 
Fair play to Gove.

He appears slimy, but he hasn't stabbed May in the back.

He's also made a decent stab at Environment Secretary.

I read today one of his colleagues had written that Michael’s wrestling bouts with his conscience constitute the longest winning streak in British sporting history. I chuckled :lol:
 
Fair play to Gove.

He appears slimy, but he hasn't stabbed May in the back.

He's also made a decent stab at Environment Secretary.

I’ll be surprised if any stab May in the back to get their grip on the poisoned chalice. It’s a bold political move with virtually no upside.
 
I’ll be surprised if any stab May in the back to get their grip on the poisoned chalice. It’s a bold political move with virtually no upside.
Dunno, some of the headbangers really believe the sunlit uplands shite.
 
No I don't think there's any possible chance of it getting through the house of commons. No way. It'll be voted out, and May will be in the same position as Cameron after the referendum. Will she go? Probably.
Then it'll be down to someone else to go back to the EU to either try and get more concessions, or go to the people with another vote.
Ditto. The ERG cnuts and Labour will vote it down. Labour can vote with impunity and blame the subsequent chaos on the Tories.

As for those saying Corbyn has played a blinder, yeah fine he's sat back and watched as the Tories tear themselves apart, but he's offered feck all leadership or a viable alternative Brexit. He says he'll negotiate a Brexit that works for everyone'.
Impossible and the spineless tit still won't be honest about his own view.
 
Ditto. The ERG cnuts and Labour will vote it down. Labour can vote with impunity and blame the subsequent chaos on the Tories.

As for those saying Corbyn has played a blinder, yeah fine he's sat back and watched as the Tories tear themselves apart, but he's offered feck all leadership or a viable alternative Brexit. He says he'll negotiate a Brexit that works for everyone'.
Impossible and the spineless tit still won't be honest about his own view.

That's cause he's beyond useless imo.
 
Ditto. The ERG cnuts and Labour will vote it down. Labour can vote with impunity and blame the subsequent chaos on the Tories.

As for those saying Corbyn has played a blinder, yeah fine he's sat back and watched as the Tories tear themselves apart, but he's offered feck all leadership or a viable alternative Brexit. He says he'll negotiate a Brexit that works for everyone'.
Impossible and the spineless tit still won't be honest about his own view.
What happens if Jezza actually comes to power before the end of March?
 
Ditto. The ERG cnuts and Labour will vote it down. Labour can vote with impunity and blame the subsequent chaos on the Tories.

As for those saying Corbyn has played a blinder, yeah fine he's sat back and watched as the Tories tear themselves apart, but he's offered feck all leadership or a viable alternative Brexit. He says he'll negotiate a Brexit that works for everyone'.
Impossible and the spineless tit still won't be honest about his own view.

Of course he's not going to negotiate any Brexit. They're going to kill Brexit but want to make sure it takes the Tories with it which is why they can just sit on the fence and watch. He has openly even acknowledged a People's vote! Brexit has destroyed the Tories for a generation and that can only be a good thing!

All they need is to get into power and put their policies in to improve peoples lives. Brexit has no place in their plans if they are to succeed at it and people will forget if their lives really improve during a Corbyn government.
 
Ditto. The ERG cnuts and Labour will vote it down. Labour can vote with impunity and blame the subsequent chaos on the Tories.

As for those saying Corbyn has played a blinder, yeah fine he's sat back and watched as the Tories tear themselves apart, but he's offered feck all leadership or a viable alternative Brexit. He says he'll negotiate a Brexit that works for everyone'.
Impossible and the spineless tit still won't be honest about his own view.

There isn't a viable alternative brexit, it doesn't exist. The two main party leaders know this and have just been playing politics on it because that's all they can do.

I don't know what anyone wants from them tbh it's not like being honest over this would lead to a more positive outcome. We've reached the inevitable outcome.
 
What happens if Jezza actually comes to power before the end of March?
Can't see how? No way Tories call an election.
Of course he's not going to negotiate any Brexit. They're going to kill Brexit but want to make sure it takes the Tories with it which is why they can just sit on the fence and watch. He has openly even acknowledged a People's vote! Brexit has destroyed the Tories for a generation and that can only be a good thing!

All they need is to get into power and put their policies in to improve peoples lives. Brexit has no place in their plans if they are to succeed at it and people will forget if their lives really improve during a Corbyn government.
Corbyn is anti-EU and hiding behind the will of the people nonsense. Wouldn't trust him to kill Brexit tbh.
 
Can't see how? No way Tories call an election.

Corbyn is anti-EU and hiding behind the will of the people nonsense. Wouldn't trust him to kill Brexit tbh.

Even if he is, its plain for everyone to see the catastrophe that Brexit would bring and absolutely no one would be stupid enough to go with it.

And he alone cannot carry the country in a different direction to the general mood even if he was strongly against it.
 
Can't see how? No way Tories call an election.

Corbyn is anti-EU and hiding behind the will of the people nonsense. Wouldn't trust him to kill Brexit tbh.
No one can or will do. People have to accept that Brexit is happening in some shape or form.
 
Both Donald Tusk and May have said it can be no Brexit. Tusk went as far as to say that was the best option.

I don't think May has ever said this in the sense it's something the tory party are willing to do. And it's doesn't matter what Tusk says.

Stopping Brexit would destroy both political parties(Tory & Labour)and destroy the legitimacy of UK democracy, these are the reasons why Brexit is going to happen. The best option for people who want to remain is a 2nd referendum.
 
I don't think May has ever said this in the sense it's something the tory party are willing to do. And it's doesn't matter what Tusk says.

Stopping Brexit would destroy both political parties(Tory & Labour)and destroy the legitimacy of UK democracy, these are the reasons why Brexit is going to happen. The best option for people who want to remain is a 2nd referendum.
She said twice clearly “it’s my deal, no deal, or no Brexit”

And it clearly does matter what he says, you said that Brexit can’t be stopped and the leading camps of both side disagree.

And yes obviously the second referendum is the best way, and the fairest way.