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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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In the (unlikely) event of a no- deal, what happens to the small matter of the £39 thousand million pounds?
 
Smores said:
Of course they can, the point of allowing it for a GE is a shift in terms. If May tries to renegotiate on the same red lines then yes they'll refuse but if she reaches out on a cross party basis to come up with something that will command a majority (if possible) they'll extend. That's the main point of the discussed july extension.

The direction of travel is for a better deal for them.
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The negotiations are finished. The EU has no incentive to change anything in the deal. She might try, again, she will fail.

They want us to remain. They can almost certainly acheive that now by doing nothing.
 
Buster15 said:
In the (unlikely) event of a no- deal, what happens to the small matter of the £39 thousand million pounds?
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It's 39 billion but whatever the UK owe they still have to pay it whether there is a deal or not. If there is no deal it'll probably be about 24bn because the Uk won't have to pay for the transition
 
It's the biggest defeat you silly shit.
 
Drifter said:
She's going to go back to the EU.
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And then what? She certainly cannot expect more favourable terms after this public humiliation.

From the EU's perspective, only two options remain: no deal or no Brexit.
 
711 said:
Yeah, I only meant he won as in he resisted the demands of the Vatican, he made loads of mistakes in general. I thought the Elizabethan age is generally regarded as pretty successful for England really, she was just a bit shit at propagating. Would I have the monasteries back though, owning half of England and dictating the politics of the day? Hell no, but again, it's just a pity he wasted the cash the way he did. A little part of me is saying we might be getting a bit off topic as well - but you started it.
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Its easy to judge history now but that's not the correct way to see things. You need to see things from his perspective. Tudor took a stable and respectable kingdom to the brink of civil war and invasion. Smallfolk were left dying on both sides (first Catholics, then Protestants under Mary, then Catholics again) and his dynasty ended after 1 generation. His crown ended up first to Mary, the very daughter of the woman he turned against then to Elizabeth the daughter of the woman he executed.

Regarding monasteries, I agree wholeheartedly and I assure you no one understand the injustice of a rich church in a poor country then I do. This situation survived in Malta well past medieval times, as the church and the British empire agreed not to step at each other toes. It was only after independence when Mintoff finally put the church in place and it was a fight him and his supporters (including my grandfather) had to fight for inch by inch and suffer a horde of injustices because of it. Yet, you also need to understand the times too. During the medieval times, that wealth could end up either to the church whom, with all its weaknesses, did care for the poor else it would end up in the hands of nobility who didn't share any love for the poor.
 
devilish said:
Its easy to judge history now but that's not the correct way to see things. You need to see things from his perspective. Tudor took a stable and respectable kingdom to the brink of civil war and invasion. Smallfolk were left dying on both sides (first Catholics, then Protestants under Mary, then Catholics again) and his dynasty ended after 1 generation. His crown ended up first to Mary, the very daughter of the woman he turned against then to Elizabeth the daughter of the woman he executed.

Regarding monasteries, I agree wholeheartedly and I assure you no one understand the injustice of a rich church in a poor country then I do. This situation survived in Malta well past medieval times, as the church and the British empire agreed not to step at each other toes. It was only after independence when Mintoff finally put the church in place and it was a fight him and his supporters (including my grandfather) had to fight for inch by inch and suffer a horde of injustices because of it. Yet, you also need to understand the times too. During the medieval times, that wealth could end up either to the church whom, with all its weaknesses, did care for the poor else it would end up in the hands of nobility who didn't share any love for the poor.
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Seriously?
 
Siorac said:
And then what? She certainly cannot expect more favourable terms after this public humiliation.

From the EU's perspective, only two options remain: no deal or no Brexit.
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Then stall as long as she can.
 
She should just resign. Let Boris and his ilk sort the mess they created
 
Let me guess, Corbyn would go get a better deal, except actually he wouldn't get anything because the EU have no cause to have to concede anything have have made it crystal clear they won't.

So it's complete chaos and ruin or cancel the whole thing, but the country is run by morons so it'll be the chaos option.
 
Rado_N said:
Let me guess, Corbyn would go get a better deal, except actually he wouldn't get anything because the EU have no cause to have to concede anything have have made it crystal clear they won't.

So it's complete chaos and ruin or cancel the whole thing, but the country is run by morons so it'll be the chaos option.
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What's going to happen if Corbyn gets in and gets no better of a deal, surely all the Tories would vote that down and we'd be right back to here.
 
So would a no confidence vote even succeed? I doubt it.

What a load of shite this. May, Corbyn the whole fecking lot of them.
 
So she delayed the vote for an extra few weeks just to try and brow beat and blackmail people into voting for her deal and ended up getting defeated by even more votes than was predicted in the first place....

What an utter waste of time at a moment where every second counts
 
P-Nut0712 said:
What's going to happen if Corbyn gets in and gets no better of a deal, surely all the Tories would vote that down and we'd be right back to here.
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March 29 would come and go and we'd be out with no deal whilst he was still trying to get through the switchboard.
 
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